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  1. Gents, have been fishing the Bay all my life and I have to say a small lightly weighted SP stick bait (squidgy, gulp or similar) will out fish any metal 10 to 1.

    The problem with metals is that they need to be retrieved fast. Most times they will only get hit if cast in the same line as the feeding school, and retrieved back in the same line as the fleeing baitfish. This takes a lot more thought in the approach with the boat...

    With a lightly weighted SP, the degree of leniency is increased, and successful approaches can be made from different angles. This is due to the SP not really needing a retrieve to get hit - I have lost count the number of times the lure gets smashed almost immediately after the cast, without even a turn of the handle!

    Other deadly lures for this style of fishing are the slider topwater lures. There are a few around designed for american bass by Japan houses such as megabass, but some australian lures are starting to show up (squidgy / bushy for eg). These lures again dont need a fast retrieve so can be cast in to the school from most angles and twitched on the surface, imitating a dying baitfish.

    We have also noticed that when using these lures the precise "match the hatch" theory applies, but to a lesser degree. I recall times when I was left only with a 6" Sluggo, rigged on a wormhook, as I ran out of all other ~5cm options and still caught fish...

    Guess its a matter of getting out there and trying different techniques

    Tight lines!

    Hello all,

    took a run out to the Cape Banks area this morning on the hunt for some kings

    sniffing around the hordes of salmon in the bay. I've gotta say there is action

    everywhere for the sportfisherman with a bit of patience for the schools to rise.

    Failed miserably on the yakkas at some likely spots but managed a coupla squid

    out on the sea side of Bare Island. All the while the schools of salmon would

    periodically erupt and the boats would come a runnin'.

    Decided to concentrate on the Cape as the tide had turned and maybe the kings

    would be around some of the great structure out there.

    Only had two squid and the first barely got down on the rigger before getting smashed.

    After a good fight on my TN12 with 20lb a just shy of 70cm model was in the box

    and the second went out. Another just under followed not long after and the baits were over.

    Was slowly heading in to try for some more baits but with the umpteenth salmon blow up dead ahead....

    First cast with a 10 gram raider and all the tactics came out of the bag over the next

    twenty minutes as 4lb braid with an 8lb leader can only do so much on these engorged salmon.

    As simple as this may sound, and as often as you have heard it -

    SMALL LURES to match what they are feeding on are the go.

    Throughout the morning there must have been a dozen boats flying up to the schools

    and never once looking like hooking up with some of the lumps of things I saw flying out.

    Seriously on more than one occasion the action would engulf boats all around and

    the guys were hung out to dry.

    If you wanna a go at some good fun sportfishing on the weekend, its on.

  2. After a brief but unforfilling attempt to catch yakka in the bay again. (I have only fished in the bay twice and cannot find any).

    Yakkas are pretty consistent at the breakwall. SE corner. Keep motoring around til you see them on the sounder, then drop bait jigs.

  3. "The strip of squid is the only bait that can make it to all of these types of gutters. Whats the point in a salmon slab or live tailor if you can't make it reach the gutter that's only 50 meters away? "

    One lesson that continues to bode true is the old adage, "Big Bait, Big Fish". This has been proven again and again, particularly on big beach jewie haunts such as the far west coast SA.

    A good way to rig large, softer baits is by using 2-3 half hitches around the top part of the bait with the trace. That with a two-hook rig should keep the bait on for a big cast.

    Another casting tip is to use a sliding swivel and 30-40cm dropper to the weight, and a 60-100cm trace. This way the weight and bait are closer together and if weighted correctly will allow for bigger baits to be cast a mile (without the lead sliding up the main line).

    To help, I have sketched the rig, see here:

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    The looped dropper also allows for easy weight changing as conditions require (remember, a bait that just rests on the bottom, and is allowed to move around a bit will 10:1 outfish a bait anchored to the bottom with 5lb of lead).

    Using a 30cm slab, or kg + dead / livebaits (inc big squid) will increase your chances of that 30kg Jew. Just remember to fish your smaller rigs in parallel as many hours pass waiting for big jew hits.

    Good luck!

  4. Mate, have you tried Mustad Penetrators? They are a fine guage hook and have significantly improved our hook-up rate on schoolies...

    Another method that may help is a fine guage owner treble as a stinger.

    Of course, the hook size depends on the size of the bait you are using...

  5. Mate, most consistent place for livies is at the breakwall. Head there on any tide, but fish on the upcurrent side. So fish the eastern corner on the run in, and the western corner on the run out. With live bait jig ready, crawl around until you find patches of bait on the sounder, then simply drop the jig in the school and twitch it around. You should get enough for a session in quick time.

    Funnily enough, good spots for kingies are where the bait is, so quickly get a livie out near the bait schools and you will be in with a chance.

    Other spots to try for kings are the third runway wide, channel markers between the runway and the breakwall, henry head, the drums in the middle, and the oil wharf. I hear the hot water outlet is also holding kingies.

    Good luck

  6. Been off the site for a while, thought I would add my 2 cents

    Whats the story with swap and sell? I have used that forum several times, and always check, er, checked it for anything interesting every time I visit. I have sold and bought goods many times without issue, even interstate. To say I am disappointed is a severe understatement

    Damn shame it came to this...

    Have the mods looked at options? Some other sites use a centralised selling area, where sellers are forced to fill in fields to ensure all info is standardised, and people forced to utilise the function properly?

    Bring it back

  7. Cheers guys

    Good guesses, close but no cigar

    Jewy caught in the Bay, on bait - 30cm fresh squid.

    To be honest, I was a tad disappointed, thought with a bait that size a 20kg big mama would be on the cards!

  8. Sea Urchin are good also, hooked my first marlin a few years ago with those guys...

    Can anyone recommend a charter boat up their, there are quite a few to choose from? I will probably need to join another group as I will be on my own.

    hi mate.

    i fished with brian from SWR fishing charters a few times now and always come up with the goods.

    you can find his number through google.

    another good one is splash down charters and laurie will look after you.

    they're the two best boats i've found up there.

    febuary to macrh is the best fishing at south west rocks.

    HAVE FUN. :thumbup:

  9. "Awesome, got the coordinates... now all I need is a GPS... oh yeah... and a boat... and some petrol... cant forget the fishing gear - might need that.... and maybe some bait or lures... and... and..."

    Try getting a boat license first, then think about a boat :1boat:

  10. Managed a nice session on kings this Sunday. SP's and Jigs fished deep worked well, but live yakka far outfished artificials. Ended up with 6 or so kings, and a lone small Sambo.

    Biggest king for the session

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    Almost learnt a valuable lesson the hard way...

    I was fishing a Shimano Trinidad 12 / Daiwa Saltiga Coastal combo, with a half-full spool of PE4 braid. This fish hit hard and I was almost spooled within seconds. Luckily we were quick enough to fire up the engine and follow the fish and after a tough few minutes, I managed to turn its head just enough to get the fish up into the safer water and eventually into the boat.

    Will definitely take more care in the future to make certain tackle is always up to the task.

  11. When the salmon are finacky, we usually turn lookers into biters using the following techniques:

    The delivery needs to be in-line with the direction the fish are feeding. By watching the school carfefully you can usually predict what where they are going, and drive the boat in front of the leading edge of the school ready for the cast.

    If the fish are only surfacing for very short periods, carefully watch the sounder and be prepared to fish lures deeper, as the sambos are commonly rounding up the bait mid-water or deeper.

    Match the hatch, by identifying what they are feeding on, and using similar sized lures and colours. If thats not possible, downsizing is a good option. Note when they are feeding on "eyes" a 2" or 3" bass minnow has proved successful countless times.

    IMO, soft plastics always outfish metals. 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 inch stickbaits in clear/white/smelt are excellent.

    Plastics fished light or on the surface are great, but if you need a bit of casting distance don't be afraid to use heavier jig heads and fish them faster (in similar fashion to a metal)

    The more erratic your retrieve, the more takes you will get.

    I hope this helps.

    Tight lines

  12. Mate this is a Giant Herring

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    They are meant to fight like crazy, zig zagging all over the place. I have read reports of anglers thinking that the one fish was two or three, disillusioned by how fast they are!

    ps Why are you screaming?

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