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Hi Denny
Geoff and I used to chat over Webster Twinfishers as I have one. He was a very knowledgeable guy and you could ask him anything.
I can guarantee that you are getting one of the best twinfishers ever built and he treated it was his baby.
We only went out once together in our boats and it looked great having two twinfishers on the water.
Regards
Lancer
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Just spent 4 days at Wyangla Dam and two at Carcoar. The first three days towing lures I got nothing and lost two lures. I then bought worms from the worm farm in Wyangla. Worms are also for sale at the Caravan Park reception office. I then caught a 10cm Macquarie Perch and two carp. The carp fought pretty good.
Then went to Carcoar dam and spent an afternoon intoducing two young kids to fishing. They didnt like worms or the fish but loved it when they pulled in a redfin. The fish were small but after you skin them you get a piece of fish the size of a fish finger. Ended up with two meals and excited kids.
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The size of the boat is important going outside but also the configuration and experience, in that I regularly run offshore a few miles to chase flatties and have taken my 4.3 Webster Twinfisher to Montague Island and across the bar at South West Rocks and Narooma.
It feels very stable outside and trolls straight and true in seas up to two metres. After two metres its time to come in as its to uncomfortable.
I also was lucky to learn from experienced skippers who taught you how to cross bars, trim boats properly, drive the boat in heavy seas.
These lessons are more valuable than just working out who goes to sea in a certain size boat as I have seen guys get into trouble in a Bertram 25 in seas that were only one - two metre but tried to cross a bar at the wrong time of the tide and got smashed.
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Redfin are great to eat and if you skin them, remove the head and pull the fins off them, you will remove just about all the bones.
If you can still get hold of a baltic minnow and jig it through the water, Redfin love them.
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Hi can you add David and Alex Wan Lum to the list.
Lancer
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Dave A guy I used to knock around with in the early 60's had a 14' runabout with a 25hp Scott. It had a hard life , very noisy moter but considering the treatment it got was reasonable reliable.
I did a similar cost comparison on the 75hp Evinrude. I used 25 pounds per week which equates to 17 weeks pay back period.
Not sure of the cost of a 75hp E-Tec but guess around $10,000 to buy off the shelf. A $1,000 / week is not an uncommon salary these days so 10 weeks pay back.
If we assume the above is reasonable calculation that would make the 1962 Evinrude worth 250 pounds
All very interesting to compare but generally could be filed under the heading of useless information
Geoff
Geoff
Yes its useless information but I reckon its at least got some truth to it and its better than the spin pollies give us about how well the State is going or what their real agendas are.
David
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Cleaning out some old cupboards at my Mum's place & came across the boating page from the Daily Telegraph dated May 1962.
Here are a few pic's of interest.
Geoff
Geoff
As one of my projects when I retire, I have in my possession a 7.5 hp scott outboard motor and cosidering that it was probably made in 1962 its in reasonable nick.
I should bring it over one day and show it to you.
When you think about it though, back then people used to get paid I think about 20 pounds a week so, at 550 for a fibreglass machine that was only for the rich.
David.
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The " Back To The Bay Flathead , Bream and Trevally Social!"on SUNDAY , 28th September 2008.
Thats right , once again we are going back to Botany Bay for this one , targetting 3 species this time , namely Bream , Flathead and Trevally.Owing to the large number of boats that will be present , I have expanded our fishing area to include the Georges River and Cooks River , and all tributaries. The venue will be Cook Park at Sans Souci , fishing and registration will commence from 6AM ( 0600 ) and continue through until 1PM (1300) .
You can put your boat into the water at any ramp you want to , this will help avoid congestion at any one Ramp , remember , that we will also be sharing resources with the general public !!
We will have the weigh in and presentation after 1PM , a BBQ lunch will be provided . There will be more info on this as the date draws closer.
If you are interested in attending , please let us know , and we will add you to the list!!
Ross
Hi Ross
Can you add David and Alex Wan Lum to the list. Lancer.
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Hey all,
After last weekends events and a few unforgettable bustoffs by big Kings, I made plans to return this weekend and try and square the ledger. I felt that if I didn't turn it around this weekend, I'd be all out of ideas how to stop the buggers and go back to Bream.
Had a workmate who was keen for a fish seeing as his missus is overseas for a few months and he's obviously trying to sneak in as much time on water as possible.
Made plans to meet at Tunks Park at 4:15am, he asked me if I wanted him to bring anything, I said nothing, except your 24kg game fishing outfit. There was no way I'd let a repeat of last weekend happen.
Prepped the boat on Saturday night, made plenty of rigs, tied my double and after a few goes, had it looking like it should and set my drags to as much as my line would allow. Took all my squid gear and all my 50 and 80lb braid outfits. Boat was full you could say it resembled a tackle shop more than anything.
A few hours of sleep and up at 3:00am, quick brekky, hook the boat up and I'm away. Had a good run down the M7, M2 and I arrived at Tunks Park at the same time as my mate. Love it when deckies aren't late.
Launched at planned time of 4:15am, straight to the Spit where we snagged one nice squid quickly. Picked up anchor and headed off to Balmoral. Put in a big effort to get livies and got around 6 Yakkas, a bit small for my liking, for Kings anyways, but they'd be good backup if we couldn't get anymore squid. Just as I was packing up, my mate chucked out a 2.5 Yozuri, asked me a question saying if the jig has to be on the bottom, I replied by you just found out, a good squid around 1kg came over the side.
Saw Rekless out there, I'll say g'day next time. You guys looked a bit too busy to talk
Off to Squid spot 1 which was getting smashed by the swell, headed to Squid spot 2 which was much more protected and got a ripper small cuttle. Live cuttlefish are the best kingy bait you can get IMO, and it'd show in a little while.
Gave in the squid as we wanted to fish the tide change at around 7:30am. Shot off to our King spots and likely looking haunts, got the downriggers ready and started our troll.
It didn't take long for the live squid to go off, unfortunately my snell pulled through... I was pretty pissed off as I'd practiced and practiced and tested it only to have it fail when it really mattered. Felt like a solid king too...
Reset the gear, the live cuttle went out and we waited...
And we didn't have to wait long either...
The TLD50 screamed as I pushed the drag past strike immediately. He still pulled drag like I had the reel in free spool, thumbed the spool as he looked like he'd bust me off. Put plenty of pressure on this fish and had it's head finally turned as it tried to make itself back into the rockbar again. We cleared the gear and motored into cleaner water.
Get the gaff! No gaff! Just my luck We had it to the boat around 4 or 5 times but couldn't get it into a good enough position to net the thing.
I don't know how many times it rubbed us against the bottom of the hull, against the bottom, against the downrigger cables. Somehow the line held and we finally nailed him. High fives all around and finally a solid king in the boat. Nothing but stoked
Put a lot of hours to finally hook and hand a hood. It was a top effort to get him seeing where and how we hooked him.
Straight onto the brag mat, he came in at 95cm. But boy was he solid, fattest king I've ever seen. We guessed around 8 or 9kgs. What a fish to start the day, all around 5 minutes after we commenced. It was going to be some day.
Continued our troll over the next 3 or 4 hours using Yakkas, strips and squid heads. Nailed two more kings and missed a few strikes. We weren't too chuffed, and instead of fishing the next tide change, we headed in nice and early to clean the fish, gear and boat.
What a magic day on the water with a good mate and a few fish to boot. I wouldn't have been anywhere else in the world
Off the water at around 12pm and put the boat on the trailer without a hitch.
Back at home, we chucked him on the lie detector, pulled down to 9.5kgs cleaned and gutted.
Can't wait for next time.
Now for one over 100cm in the harbour...
You might be able to catch bigger kings offshore, but nothing beats hooking and catching kings in our harbour. Gotta be the only place in the world you can do something like this.
Bloody excellent kingfish Anthony and I know your dad is jealous like I am.
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Is it a Cleveland 351 Petrol Motor or is it a diesel motor ?
The motor will also change the towing capacity.
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Just want to know if Aussie Salmon are that good for bait and what species would you traget with them.
I'm not talking whole little livies but slabs or filletts of the larger salmon. I heard jewies like them off the beach?? But i'm more interested if they are worth using as cut baits in Sydney Harbour, Pittwater etc.
Or do they not even compare to pillies, slimies etc as fish baits???
Thanks
In NZ on the charter boats, one of their favourite baits is a chunk of salmon and dont snapper love it.
So yes salmon is a good bait.
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Well I lost one live yakka at one of the buoys and then nothing. What I did find were leatherjackets near sow and pigs. All were pretty small and they were there in swarms so when they move in eat everything that moves. I caught 15 in five minutes using a bait rig sweetened with slimy mackeral but at the end of the five minutes all my jigs were bitten off.
I also caught an oceanic toadfish. I should have taken a pic before throwing it back in.
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I reckon a visit to Go Fish will make you happy when you can get to buy a new rod and accidently more gear.
Just tell your wife that you were so heart broken and that you need the retail fix to repair a broken heart. Most wives can relate to this.
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Geoff and Pelican
This has also made me think about what I carry and where I put things and I wonder if we should have a space in say the boating area, saying whats a good idea and whats not a good idea.
Being optimists we always think that the boat will stay upright, pumps work etc but really what other things can we do to protect oursleves. For example lashing extra life jackets togther to hold us up, techniques to reduce hypertermia, making up safety bags and attaching them to each life jacket. etc.
David
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Well they can be thankful that their Webster stayed afloat long enough for them to be rescued and that their is enough air in the sponsons to support the boat.
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Thanks Mik, it's good to be able to see it from another perspective (rather than IN the boat)...
and yep, David you're right about it being shallow on the left at low tide but like you say with the swell (and current) pushing up towards that North wall (RHS) I was certainly aiming to stay away from that side... It looks shallow Brickie, especially in that 3rd pic, but there's a good depth of water underneath her
Cheers
Holmesie
Holmsie,
I just figured out why the boat jumped at that point and only had the last half of the boat in the water.
You must have been coming in on a falling tide and I would say that the water was running out of the Wagonga at its usual quick pace and where the estuary and sea swell meet you get a pressure wave and it would be almost right at that spot. Take a look at how high the water is up the rocks.
Thats why the water is so churned and you would have about 2-3 metres of water under you at that spot.
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Hi Brickie
Just looking at the pics, I would say he did a perfect job coming in.
You do normally start from the left and go to the middle of the channel.
If you start to close to the right of the channel the waves pushing in from the south will push you into the wall where the green water is.
In a real low tide the left side can be very shallow and you do need to come in the middle of the channel but you need sit off the bar out the front for a while and watch the waves. Then make your decision and go. If you can have one person watching the waves behind you and you get on the back of a wave and stick with it going in. If its a big wave dont power over the front of it as it could crash down on you from behind.
David
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Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone have any contacts or a reliable supplier for Delkor batteries.
I'm in the market for 2x Delkor DC31
Cheers
There is a guy at Girraween called Battery Allsorts 97691060. He has AC Delco Calcium Batteries are these the batteries you guys are looking for.
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Hi Dave,
Really nice to meet you and your young fella. It was our pleasure to hand over the yakka's, any time.
Get yourself a bait jig and a cheap bottle of prawn scent and you'll be right.
See ya next time.
Cheers
David.
Hehe David mmm prawn scent I have to get that perfume.
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Hi Raiders,
Didn't quite have the spare time to attend the social today, (even though it would have been nice to meet some of you guys since i'm only a newby), so I decided to just use the precious time I had for the kings, my new favourite adversary. I was by my self since my mates all had other stuff on, so Iwent out any way. After picking up plenty of livies and one little squid, it was off to my favourite spot X (Though not much of a secret). Quickly pulled in two nice little sampsons and I would have been fairly happy with that, but it gets better. It all went quiet for a while so I thought I'd join the 500 other guys at OMH, but i got over that pretty quickly.
I was almost going to head back in when I decided to give my fav spot one more go with my last hour of available time. Down go the livies and bang! I'm on to a fierce king
, he went about 67cm. I wasn't really expecting it cause the other guys around were all a bit quiet. Still quite shaky from the battle I got my breath back the two lines go back down. not ten minutes passes when WHACK off goes the same rod and another even stronger beast (went about 70cms) makes it into the boat after some great runs (much respect to these fish). I thought surely that would be it fot the morning, but stuck on a couple more livies and downed lines. Was heading for the phone to brag to one of my mates who normally comes out with me and after one ring...s#@^ I threw down the phone as my rod doubles over again. By this stage a few others around were cheering me on and one guy yells out: "Mate you've got two on". I looked over and my second rod was jumping around, yelled out to the on-lookers.. Help! I think it must have been amusing to watch me struggle around the tinny like that.. Double hook up! My first on a solo mission. So I pulled up the first one which by this time was of course tangled around the other, the leader broke right at the end, but I already had my had on it by then, so in he came. with shaky hands undid the tangle and at that moment realised the second king had broken my rod and was still on! So fought him for a good while and finally he comes in and he's a biggun, well for me anyway at 76cms and my new PB Took a quick pic of the broken rod and the two kings that nearly gave me a heart attack and decided to release the first one since I already has three plus the Sampsons. He swam off happily and I was left with one broken rod, and my other with the leader detached. Had run out of time and anyway my esky was getting pretty full. So off I went back to the ramp to make it back to my dear wife by the promised time. Had a lot of fun today and spotted some raiders out too (I think). Wish I had time for the social, but will definately try harder next time one's on.
Cheers all and see you on the water next time!
Well I was one of those yelling and cheering.
What king slayer didnt tell us is that his boat is a very small tinnie that was chock a block with gear and he was by himself and he was catching kingfish like nothing.
He was jumping all over the place and imagine what happens what happens when on one side of the boat he gets a king thats pulls the rod tip over the side of the boat into the water, a real hoodlum and then 30 seconds into it his other rod goes off. It also had a huge curve in it.
Then snap the rod he is holding breaks and you are still being dragged around. At one stage I saw him, he was lying over the side of the boat trying to get hold of the trace. Did you enjoy the kingfish shower of the tail hitting the water.
The other rod was still going like crazy.
A fishermans nightmare or fantasy.
Excellent work in the end.
David.
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Looks like you were right next to me (did you spot the double hook up/tangle/broken rod
) Well done, it was a fantastic day for fishing the harbout today.What king slayer didnt tell us is that his boat is a very small tinnie that was chock a block with gear and he was by himself and he was catching kingfish like nothing.
He was jumping all over the place and imagine what happens what happens when on one side of the boat he gets a king thats pulls the rod tip over the side of the boat into the water, a real hoodlum and then 30 seconds into it his other rod goes off. It also had a huge curve in it.
Then snap the rod he is holding breaks and you are still being dragged around. At one stage he was lying over the side of the boat trying to get hold of the trace.
The other rod was still going like crazy.
A fishermans nightmare or fantasy.
How many did you get in the end and is the heart back to normal yet ?
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Yep , that was us.
Geoff
It was a great day with the Webtster Twinfisher clan represented by Geoff and myself.
I have to give a special thanks to Geoff and Mottyman who we teamed up with and who gave us 7 yakka's when my son and I couldnt catch a cold. Without these two guys I would have gone fishless.
We converted the yakkas into kingfish at the wave bouy. Only one reached the magical 65 cm mark and the others went back in, but what was priceless was the sight of my son holding onto a rod and screaming that these things fight so hard and having a straight out tugger war with a king fish.
What a great day.
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Hi Sorry about the late notice but can you add myself and my son Alex to the list for Sunday.
Thanks
David and Alexander Lum
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Mate this sublject has been discussed heaps and you will get many different views...
My opinion is to Stay away from Navman Units.....
For that price range you would best be looking at Lowrance or Garmin Units as well as a Humminbird.....Humminbird has a few new units which seem very impressive.
The main thing that you need in a combo is screen size, if you can get a 10" wide screen that would be great. On mine I have a 5" screen and sometimes the detail is to small when running both GPS and Sonar together.
I also find that in bright sunlight and the sun is behind you ie morning sun, you need to adjust the screen angle to see.
Mines an Eagle 642IGPS DF.
Otherwise its magic especially when you come home in the dark and you dont take the wrong turn and end up lost when I had the family onboard. They were not amused. !!!!
My first on a solo mission. So I pulled up the first one which by this time was of course tangled around the other, the leader broke right at the end, but I already had my had on it by then, so in he came. with shaky hands undid the tangle and at that moment realised the second king had broken my rod and was still on! So fought him for a good while and finally he comes in and he's a biggun, well for me anyway at 76cms and my new PB 
Took a quick pic of the broken rod and the two kings that nearly gave me a heart attack and decided to release the first one since I already has three plus the Sampsons. He swam off happily and I was left with one broken rod, and my other with the leader detached. Had run out of time and anyway my esky was getting pretty full. So off I went back to the ramp to make it back to my dear wife by the promised time.
First time offshore as skipper
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Sounds like a good idea and we see how many Webster's we can get. Lol Geoff was good at Organising that.