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Pillies.
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Gday Everyone,
Took the new Bar Crusher out for a run this morining. We put in at the Drumoyne ramp and headed down the harbour to Clifton Gardens for a driift for an hour or so. We could only manage to catch plenty of small snapper. The water here seemed to be normal in colour and there was little if any rubbish floating about. Water temp was 16
We also fished Mosman bay for a while again only getting small snapper and a little flathead. Again the water quality here was fine but as we headed back towards the bridge you could see the water starting to discolour.
About 1pm we headed to my never fail to catch a feed spot, Iron Cove, where we managed to hook a nice 30cm Bream and a 22cm tailor.
Not alot of fish caught but it was a pleasent day on the water and just great to get out of the house/pub for a while.
We also came across a family of fairy penguins in Berrys Bay. I had the camera with me but left the batteries in the car
Cheers
BalmainBob
Better than no fish at all, or staying at home. But do you eat fish from Iron Cove? The fish there are toxic.
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Thanks guys, think I'll give Clifton the go...
I could buy some waders, but by the time I get out of allowance debt and have the $$$, it'll be summer! Plus I want more stuff above it.
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Yeah - these are just regular, native toadfish. They're extremely poisonous to eat but perfectly harmless to handle (although they can give a good bite if you're unlucky). I used to catch them by the thousands as a kid growing up at Bawley Point.
I have to say that I find the idea of catching them and killing them to be a little hard to justify. They are not an introduced species, you can't eat them or use them for bait (although maybe you can from the comments above?) nor are they considered to be a pest or associated with any marine problems that I'm aware of.
Killing them just because they annoy you really doesn't seem like a good enough excuse.
That's just my thoughts though and I'm not having a go at anyone - I appreciate that all the regular Raiders are passionate lovers of the ocean and its inhabitants and we all express this in our own ways.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!
I can't seem to justify people like Roberta and stylo by killing them just because they like to eat your bait. Many people hate them based on their looks, but so what? They're still a fish.
They were here before we were and they are native. I could say that baby tailor are a "pest" when they are thick as they tear apart anything I throw in, but you don't see me slaughtering them. I'm a bit dissappointed to see some people taking part in this killing.
There is NO justification or excuse to pointlessly kill a fish just because you see them as a "pest". They are as much of a fish as a bream or a marlin.
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Well winter is rolling around which means a drop in water temperature. But this also means (along with the weather) that I can't go wading in my boardies without freezing my nads off in the process.
So I thought I might head off to either Balmoral of Clifton Gardens wharves on Monday and try for some trevs, flatties and bream on SP and bait. However it's been ages since I've been to either of these areas so does anybody know what's happening? What's biting (if anything) and what are they taking? Which location is the better? Any other wharves in the Sydney area producing, and if so what?
Some people would think I'd be crazy heading out in this weather, but bugger it. A bit of rain is OK, it's only when it gets too windy that I decide to stay indoors.
ANY info appreciated.
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I'm looking for a general jig as I'll be fishing in all depths and probably both species. Let me put it this way:
-You can buy one jig
-Your in the Hacking
-Mostly Southerns but maybe some Arrows
-Fishing pretty much all likely depths
-Sizes...how long's a piece of string?
It's pretty general. The trip is 5 days long so I'll be doing everything.
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OK guys, goin' squidding soon so I need another jig. Money is pretty tight but I don't want cheap $10 jigs either. It'll be in the Hacking so what are the best colour/s? Already have one that's 2.5 and blue/white. Heard that Yellow/Browns are producing? Some of the Yo-Zuri's look the goods as well as some of the Duel Pheremones. I want it in either 2.5 or 3.0 size.
This one caught my eye in either PW or BWOG:
Any advice welcome as I'm not an "expert" squidder.
Thanx.
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Get 300... THIS IS SPARTA!
Also the Saving Private Ryan. Especially the first couple of minutes of it. But you'd better have a a strong gut coz I've seen it make other guys
because of the gore. What wooses. -
Definately a trev. No question about it...
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I remove the rings completely and replace them with the loop knott. I might be kidding myself but i feel it makes the hb look more natural. i.e. no lip piercing!
Yep same here. Top knot and no need for rings which really makes a difference with finicky bream.
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I find bream fight a little harder than the tailor to tell u the truth ... pound for pound of course .. lol
It was on a pillie, not lure by the way
No doubt about it. Pound-for-Pound the bream is one of the toughest fish you'll come across, they fight hard and dirty going for the sharpest snag around to bust you off, along with your $20 lure.
PFP the hardest/dirtiest fighting fish in the sea...until you hook a king. -
smoke it, then shove it in a blender with some lime juice, herbs and spices and you've got a ripper of a dip going on.
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Tailor. Explains bite offs and pulled hooks (they can throw them pretty easily). They can also travel pretty far upstream...they just follow food, why just the other day (Anzac) I saw a couple hitting baitfish on the surface at Iron Cove.
P.S. Managed to land one of the Tailor on an SX-40, only 30cm or so but went hard on 2lb gear.
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clifton gardens or balmoral
both places you can have a family picnic and duck off with the young one for a bit of fishing
Careful with those kings though at cliffo, they'll take the boy with them lol.
Blamoral is good as the trevs are thick around winter and pretty good on 4-6lb gear, as well as anything else...bit like pot luck. Trevs aren't that bad on the chew either.
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The water is only mid thigh deep at high tide right on the edge of the channel, so quite comfortable..beware of stingrays scooting across the flats thought...I saw 3 yesterday...didn't worry me though as they just cruised by and into the channel.
Yes..all on the western side of the ocean st bridge...the other side doesn't seem to produce much at all.
I'm a bait fella so no help on the SP side of things but other use 'em well there.
Make sure you wear something on your feet while wading out as those broken oyster shells are like razors.
Good luck with it.
Cheers,
Pete.
Thanx for the heads up with the stingrays. I wear crocs whenever I wade. Sorry for the misleading question though, I was talking about how deep the channels themselves were, not the flats. My bad.
I like to float baits about 10-30cm above the bottom for flatties, more natural an appearance. -
of course fish feels pain, dont need a scientist to prove that.
What makes you think that fish feel pain? I'm not so sure, and I tend to think not
The reason scientists are divided on the pain issue is because the "cortex" is the part of the brain in animals that recognises pain. Fish, however, do not have a "cortex", or even a part of the brain that acts as the "cortex" and therefore do not feel pain, or at least this is what we believe.
Good thing I personally think fish do not feel pain, so no guilt for me!
HOWEVER! This is still not an excuse to be cruel to fish and letting them die slowly or by a stress related death. Live baiting is the limit for me, but keeping a fish out of water and letting it flap about to die is malicious and cruel. Put it out of its misery quickly, and although many of you raiders do it, there are still some d*ckheads around that just leave fish to die slowly and cruely.
Fish do feel things however through the laterosensory pores found on their body (head and nose mostly), but this is probably recognised from pressure waves and electical impulses** sent from fish to fish. But no pain...we think.
This is why I believe fish spaz out when taken out of water...their method of feeling is shoved into overdrive and thrown out of wack by the change from water to atmosphere and us physically touching them.
Have your noticed some people handle great whites by pushing them on the nose...when the shark approaches the person pushes their nose (which has most of the laterosensory pores) and throws the whole nervous system out of wack, and the shark just rears up and sinks back in the water, not trying to bite the person at all.
Just a bit of biology from school, books and TV.
** Again I think that's it but will check it up. Some sort of wave or impulse.
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Yer..
I'm not so sure abt this, sure they have 'pumped' crap into the waterways.. but I think that it's just
another reason to stop people from taking more fish from the water as the over fishing and taking
illegal undersized fish by many amateur fishers has caused a rapid decline of fish in the waterways..
sad really...
But I wouldn't eat from anywhere near the harbour or even under the bridge... just take a look at the water..
imagine if you were living in it.. you wouldnt be going too well... its a shame really on the harbour.. in some places..
The water around Clifton has noticably changed colour from a clearer blue where you could actually see all the way to the bottom even at high tide, to a more murky brownish/ green ... don't really understand why... maybe because of the rain?
shant
I follow the rule:
Botanical Gardens and further upstream...not edible
Botanical Gardens to Clifton Gardens...eat in moderation
Clifton Gardens and further offshore...completely safe
Not to sure about Middle Harbour though, is it clean?
The recent rain probably washed god knows what into the water to make it murky, but that's from assumption. I'm going to Clifton on friday, and if it hasn't rained and the water is still murky, I'll know somethings probably up.
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Yes, the old whitebait is still working on the flatties, but not as well as it was early summer.
Are you going to be landbased or boat?
If landbased, I suggest you go for a wade out from the southern side across the flats to the edge of the channel and fish there...don't forget to wear some shoes as there are a lot of broken oyster shells in the sand there which will make your feet like hamburger meat.
Alternatively, you can wade out from the caravan park side just west of the boat ramp and cast into the channel from there...always flatties cruising by and the odd larger bream...loads of small ones too to annoy you.
The lake is also full of juvenile tailor at the moment which are like pirhranna and will jump on your bait before you can blink.
The flats themselves haven't produced much in the way of flatties for me..although I haven't been for a few weeks now...might be worth a try now.
Up the back of the lake might prove better with the recent rains with fresh running into the lake carrying lots of easy food for flatties...try any drop offs near the creek entrances where they lie in wait for an easy feed.
Good luck and good fishing,
Cheers,
Pete.
Thanx heaps. Are SP's producing any flatties? Is all that on the western side of the bridge? So basically wade out on the flats until you hit the channels. How deep are they on a 1m high tide? That'll help me as I plan to float some baits.
Land based BTW.
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Something like this:
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Any info on what's around the lakes and what the fish are taking. I remember some old posts about whitebait being good on the flatties. I plan to fish the flats in front of the caravan park at the entrace of the lake. Targetting flatties and bream.
Last time I was there in November the flatties were asleep and the bream were stubborn.
Cheers,
cnr
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Hi guys! (first post)
I to wanna go to clifton wharf during the easter holidays, but it's been a while. I expected the kingie LB rush to be over by now, but what is still availabe around the wharf? Are frigates and yakkas still frequenting and if so what are they taking? In general, what's there right now?
PFP the hardest/dirtiest fighting fish in the sea...until you hook a king. 
I like to float baits about 10-30cm above the bottom for flatties, more natural an appearance.
What About Those Roosters
in The Bar
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The last five minutes spoiled a great game for us woosters. You can tell that with five minutes to go they said "bugger it, we've won it anyway" and let in two soft tries. Made the score look much closer than what it really was.
Apart from that, it was a great game for us.
Go the woosters! We'll beat 'em with our COCKS!
