Luke Wyrsta
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Basically the only advantage of the bigger reel over the smaller ceph is the lower gear ratio. great for pulling things up from deeper water.
Also line capacity is much greater in the bigger reels so if you wanted to use it for tuna and beaks you could do so quite easily.
Hi guys,
The new gear has Paladin treatment with additional treatment for a lower wear rate. It will feel a little tighter initially but will smooth up after further use. The pinion is Stainless Steel for even further strength.
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i think the decision has just about been made.
And the winner is.
08 Stella 20000PG
Now i need a rod????? AND Braid?????
Suggestions.
Get the best, go for a Varivas GT Avani SMP - this is a PE6 line that tests to 90lb. Which means you'll get around 500 metres on a 08 20000 SW spool.
Alternatively, you could opt for the colour coded Varivas Big One which is also a PE6 line but rated to 85lb.
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thanks so far guys.
The reason i am choosing the stella 20000 over the 10000 and the expadition 6500 over the dogfight is that the expadition and the 20000 have a lower gear ratio. better for cranking up creatures.
I know that boath can go wrong though as they are only mechanical.
I played with boath yesterday for quite a while and looked at them in detail.
The stella is a little heavier but feels smoother. 2 concerns with the stella is that the spool feels like there is a bit of play when you jig it up and down. not much at all but you can feel it. the stella also has 2 open bearings in the spool. From everyones experiance that owns one do they every play up (these bearings) and i have also heard of main bearing problems?
the Expadition felt RAW!. like a very powerfull reel and was very well balanced. there was no play in anything at all.. I have heard of sticky drags though. and the bail arm next to the line roller looks as if line could get cought in there.
Another point is line capacity. the stella holds a HEAP of line over say the 300m of 80lb braid on the expadition. Line capacity is important as i plan on using it for EVERYTHING, kings, tuna on the very odd occasion and who knows maby even a beakie of some description
How much 80lb will fit on the stella?
so as you can tell i am a little closer to making a decision and the stella is looking better at the moment.
Vince,
You can fit around 400 metres of PE8 on the Stella 20000. The good thing is that the spools are interchangeable, so if you do purchase a 10000, you can still use a 20000 spool for higher capacity.
As for the 'spool play', a small amount of vertical movement exists on all Shimano reels and is not a fault or poor design. Have a think about what would happen to your spool/reel internals if you smashed it against the gunnel with no 'give' at all in the spool attached to the main shaft - simply too tight, things will inevitably break.
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No offence mate but 20kg of Stike Drag would alone pull you into the water let alone 35kg.... i would get my scales tested. 7kg of MEASURED drag is hard for someone to stay on their feet, so your 20-35kg would not be a handbrake but infact...... a anchor.
Also i have seen Kelvin with a number of hoodlems caught in sydney in all kind of conditions in all times of they year
I disagree with your thoughts regarding drag settings.
Everyone has different tolerances, however, we regularly exceed 12-15kg of strike drag using heavy threadline gear - and that still feels relatively comfortable.
Reaching in excess of 20kg drag during a fight is also very possible - particularly in a 'straight pull'. That is, not loading the rod but pointing it directly at the fish.
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This post was ok'ed by myself as Luke ran it by me first
Thanks Luke for asking up front first
Regards Swordfisherman
Thanks for that mate - appreciate it.
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The Sydney Easter Fishing Festival will be held over the March Easter weekend held on Botany Bay and its Tributaries (Friday 21st to Monday 24th March 2008.)
Every entry has the chance of winning a fantastic $35k boat package – consisting of an Allycraft Kakadu Karrier 4.65, Dunbier trailer and powered by an Evinrude E-TEC 60hp motor. To complete the package, the boat will be ready to fish with Lowrance sounders and quality Shimano and Squidgy products.
The package will be won by a lucky angler through a random draw – so all you need to do is register and turn up! In addition, there is also over $20k more of quality gear to be won from other draws and for placing in a variety of fishing categories you can choose to compete in (catch & release senior and junior categories awarded daily as well as the same in catch & keep category). Senior, Junior and Family entries are available.
Catch & Release categories cover species such as Bream, Flathead and Whiting while Catch & Keep categories cover multiple species from Kingfish to Tailor and more (see website rules for more information). Don’t be worried if you don’t have a boat! – you can fish from shore, bank, rock, kayak etc. – anything that you like as long as it is legal with waterway and fishery regulations.
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I went with the magnum butt. yes the reel is a little heavy... after a shimano 4000 size reel now with 20lb...
May I also suggest you also take a serious look at the Shimano Saros as a lower cost option. Has all the new enhancements and is at a very decent price. Excellent performance - I have used them for all estuary applications from light flicking for Bream to red-lining kings and snappers on inshore reefs - definately pulls it's weight.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Hi,
1. Baitrunner reels are just not up to scratch for Kings... the drags are not usually good enough and the simpler you keep the reel the better (keep the baitrunner for the flathead and bream and jewies)
I think you're a bit out of school there mate - they would probably be one of the most popular reels for charters, particularly aimed at Kings. An old favourite that keeps going.
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145mm Squidgy Flickbaits in any colour (but Pilly is awesome). Choose jighead to suit conditions/depth, however, 9g/11g should suit fine.
We also brained them on the 90mm Squidy Stealth Prawns in Wasabi.
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did many looked at this post in a confused state?
well i've finally found out what all that PE number represents. usually ppl would multiply by 10 to get the breaking strain which is wrong. the Japanese uses a number system to measure the diameter of a line. If you look at brands like YGK, PE8 does not mean breaking strain is 80lb, it ranges from 80lb to 113lb. Knowing what the PE number, you can now work out how much line you can put onto your reel. For eg. a Shimano 8000, for a PE4 line you could fit 300m of 50lb Sufix. Simply put, the diameter stays roughly the same but the breaking strain vastly differs.
Multiplying by 10 isn't the most accurate but it was and still is one of the best ways to estimate a lines minimum breaking strain. As you now know, breaking strain does differ greatly between manufacturers for a given diameter so it is commonly accepted to use the PE rating x 10lbs. Simply as that. So to summarise, you are perfectly right in theory, however, it is simply too difficult to know a lines breaking strain without referring to a guide for that particular line because there is no consistancy - that's why it is commonly accepted to use the PE # x 10.
As you have seen, some line breaking strains (usually premium expensive brands) are much higher compared to other lines of the same PE rating (usually cheaper brands), so perhaps in the future when a majority of these lines start to follow this trend we may end up multiplying by a higher number to get a better estimate for lines of that PE rating.
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Ryan, i could see that as a problem if you didn't clean your line - but definately an issue as you point out. GSP lines do require TLC - it's a fact of life that you can't treat them like mono.
Hadn't thought of that one - thanks.
Mate research has shown that UV does effect braid...thats why companies like Daiwa are now producing UV Resistant braids
Can't help you on that one other than saying that this is what i have received from a manufacturer.
I'm no expert, but i've always believed that UV had no affect on GSP whatsoever.
I don't doubt what you say but is there any more information that you know about this? Interested to know more because there is no point being under the wrong impression.
This may help, however, i'm not denying that there may be further research to say that GSP is affected by GSP - i simply don't know.
"PE is also not bothered, to all intents, by sunlight. In ultraviolet ray irradiation tests, which are a lot more severe than sunlight, the tenacity holding ratio after 1,000 hours of irradiation exceeds 80 per cent for PE. Nylon is down around 50 per cent after only ten hours. PE is also pretty much not bothered by chemicals, and it doesn’t absorb water or weaken in water. It does get stronger when it freezes, if that’s of any use to you. Another filament of use to fishermen is fluorocarbon. I gave that a wrap a few issues back, so I won’t go over it in depth this time. In short, it falls between nylon and PE. It looks like monofilament nylon but has much less stretch; its index of refraction is closer to that of water than any other line, making it hardest to see; and it has good abrasion resistance. It is, like PE, not bothered by sunlight."
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Btw, saltwater has absolutely no affect on GSP whatsoever (so i'm told by the manufacturer of certain high quality braid manufactuer). Certainly not a factor dictating the breakage of your lines.
Some other useful information...
UV/sunlight will not degrade GSP
Age will not degrade GSP
Soaps, detergents (and i've even heard bleach - not game to try that one though!) will not degrade GSP
Colour loss (when dye fades and GSP goes white) does not mean the GSP has deteriorated or lost strength
Therefore anything that is marketed as braid, GSP, PE, Gel Spun, dyneema, spectra - you name it, it is all made of the same raw materials and should have the same properties. Number of weaves, tightness of the weave and finish (coastings, resins etc.) are the primary differences.
US GSP is generally a looser weaved product whereas premium Japanese GSP is usually an 8 carrier weave that is very tight producing a very round and soft resultant product.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Netic,
Were you testing with a gradual straight pull or applying a heavy and sharp force?
GSP lines don't really handle shock load very well and can regularly break well below stated breaking strain.
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I second the Bluewater spin (24kg) - for the price and perfomance it is unbeatable.
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Luke, im sure Chrisso believes what he has posted otherwise he would not have posted it.
Both the Stella and the Saltiga are class reels and are both designed for serious action.
I went fishing not so long ago jigging for Kings, every reel on the boat was a Saltiga and every reel on the day did its job in slaying the fish, i am sure should those reels had been Stellas instead the end result would have been the same.
Saltiga for me, only because im a Diawa fan - I own a sealine 50 overhead and its a weapon, the diawa saltiga jigging rods in my opinion are a better selection than the Shimano T-curves.
Flip a coin either way i would be happy.
Assassin
Assassin, i don't have a problem with anyone expressing their views or having a favourite.
However, I'm simply trying to point out a few points that 99% of people in the 'know' actually know to be true so that people who don't know, can make an informed decision on correct information, not false information - For example, the Stella is body is made from Aluminium, not Magnesium - fact.
I also don't think i made any subjective comments besides from mentioning that certain points are debatable.
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+ and - of both reels
stella
stella's has a great drag system- good(dual drag awesome)
stella's has a magnesium body- bad( especially if your into LBG)
stella's is hundreads cheaper-bad (this is a mass produced reel using cheaper material and manufacturing methods)
stella's are not water proof-bad(this reel will rust or erode faster than the saltiga)
stella's have open ball bearing cassing-bad
saltiga
saltiga's is lazer cut aero grade alloy- good(many times stronger than magnesium, will brake if there is a bubble in the metal, only heard of it happening twice, both replaced)
saltiga's has more drag inersha-bad(upgrade kits are great much smoother, no lose of maximum drag pressure, but when fishing for harder mouth fish, GT etc it helps with setting the hook)
saltiga's are more expensive-good (this reel is made by a watch company, using the most advanced material and manufacturing methods)
saltiga's are water proof- good(salt water the enemy of all machinery)
saltiga's standard grease is too thick-bad(easily fixed, don't use turbo grease it will eat the ball bearings and rubber seals)
saltiga's have closed ball bearing cassings-good
I really have to ask some serious questions about what you are saying because i disagree with most of it - and besides from my personal opinion there are facts that you have plain wrong.
I have been on the bandwagon about my preference but i won't get into that - you can all decide for yourself.
In regards to your comments Chriso:
1. Stella body is made from Aluminium. Spool is made from cold forged Aluminium. There is no magnesium - magnesium is used in freshwater reels and not often if not at all seen in saltwater reels.
2. Simply because the Stella is cheaper does not mean it is using "cheaper materials and manufacturing methods". Are you saying the Saltiga is not mass manufactured? Considering you can't even get the materials of the Stella correct in the first place this is completely unfounded in my opinion.
3. The Stella has a water proof drag system. I haven't heard of rusting or corrosion being an issue but don't doubt it can't happen.
4. Stella and other shimano reels alike use some of the best bearings around for fishing reels - ARB (Anti-rust Bearings) - debatable whether or not they are better than sealed bearings, i don't know enough to say if one is better than the other - i doubt you do either.
5. Enhancing the Saltiga drag with the drag kits you mention does mean that maximum drag pressure compared to original drag kit or Stella drag is lower.
6. More expensive means inherently better? not necessarily.
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Varivas Avani Max 10x10
Varivas Avani Big One
Zenaq Jigger Trust
Some of these premium quality jigging PE lines have significantly smaller diameters. Double check before you buy, for example a Varivas PE3 tests closer to 50lb than other brands which most would be a PE5 (more commonly accepted that PE # x 10 gives you breaking strain in lbs). PE=Japanese method for measuring line diameter.
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Stella 20k holds 300 metres of 30lb
Saltiga Exp holds a similar amount but less than the Stella 20k spool.
In reality, these are big quality threadlines with huge stopping power designed to be used with PE lines. There is nothing wrong with running mono, however, while running 30lb and not using PE/GSP you simply aren't utilising the reel to it's potential - something to think about if you don't make the switch to PE lines - of which you may deem totally unnecessary for your fishing applications.
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Smith rods are pretty sweet Greg.
You will certainly enjoy your new purchase - hope you get some quality fish!
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Shimano Ocea Blue Rose
in Tackle Talk
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The Blue Rose's are slow in action - load them up and you will find they bend right through to the fore-grip. Comparatively, they may be a bit stiffer than others but it all depends on what you are gauging against. The PE8 model in question also weighs a light 340g and with a drag rating of around 14kg (not 100% sure on that rating from memory).
The Blue Rose's have a very good reputation in Japan and do stand out amongst offerings from boutique brands such as Fisherman and Smith. They feature highest quality components and near 100% carbon fibre blanks for great response.
You will find many retailers with current Blue Rose's on special around $450 odd - a steal. There may be new models on the way into the 2008/2009 Shimano line-up.