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It will generally be solid so the surface rust is no big deal. Give it a bang with a hammer and the noise it makes will tel you if it is solid or hollow.
If you are enthusiastic wirebrush on a small angle grinder and then prime before painting will have it lasting years. Surface rust is not a reall issue even on the u-bolts ules sthere is real depth to it and the metal is losing a % of it's thickness.
If you wanted new ones look on the net and measure it up accurately as per the guides and get a gal one as there are some pretty standard sizes and check bearing type. Axel only or all the way hub to hub.Trailer and caravan spares people will be able to help and if you aren't confident they can fit pretty fast.
TMC would have them as a stock item and courier one to you?
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You are a rare person to rinse off at launch and isn't really a chance to do that when solo as boat would be hogging a spot at pontoon. Yeah warm water and detergent under pressure or sponge seem to remove salt the best and quickest. Doesn't take much time or water which is something most people don't get the idea of.
The whole cottage thing and lease was a joke. They didn't want commercial leases in parks and all that crap an now they are running their own commercial leases and businesses. The whole benefit of having a person down there at a shop would have added to security etc etc. Spent more time and money demolishing, remeadiating and suing people than fixing up what was there before it was left to rot.
The problem is always the idiots wrecking it and then the people who look and do the same as the idiots because they got away with it. Downward spiral to lowest IQ of behaviour.
I don't even believe in NP fees as we pay enough tax , petrol, income, gst and the more people that experience nature I hope the more people who want to preserve it but it has very much become a user contributes society. We have already paid for it and continue to do so with tax and yet they want fees that actually discourage everyone going to parks.
The fee for the full deal will be like private ramps in QLD and the Berrys Bay disaster planned or even the Rozelle one and the fees are huge , they don't want trailer boats or access they want the other end. We have police that should patrol more often in these sorts of areas already and it would help is people actually reported all the theft and vandalism as unfortunately only squeaky wheels get attention or smooth the stastics.
I don't know the answers are but dispelling a few wives tales can't hurt and to place a bit of blame on the idiots that make the noise and cause damage would be good.
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Thanks Captain
Yes it is the pealess type.
As long as I avoid a fine I'm happy.
That Maritime website leaves a lot to be desired.
You'd think it would give a desciption of something that is manditory.
And while I'm having a winge , the pdf charts on the website are locked in a way that you can't print them.
They force us to have them and we pay our taxes and fees , so why can't we print and laminate them ourselves if we want.
I'm just sick of throwing money at my boat and on things that I won't use and will just clutter it up.
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I've just noticed they are only $6 each off the website.
But still its the principle of it.
Do they qualify as a "chart" in regards to safety equipment??? Especillly if you are just ducking out the heads but staying within 2 miles?
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The abuse of the water down there and the noise from people flushing was unbelievable at all times of day and night. The park opposite was just a noisy place listening to swearing and motors flushing for 8 hours on a weekend as people flushed with one hose and then did a full detail wash of boat and trailer with another until the next person in the queue got the shits. . Just flush and rinse at home with an exhaust plug in and where you can use detergent to get salt off the boat and trailer is the solution.
This crap about wanting to flush motor as soon as getting off the water is bull as most folk go out and then stop and anchor of drift so if salt build up is happening it it is also happening then inside the motor . Take it home and do it properly, use a exhaust plug so the neighbours are happy or the flush port if it is a recent model.
The jokers down there have it draining straight into the harbour so any detergent , grease , oil etc is going straight where you don't want it so hopefully they have the brains to stop people washing boats with detergent or using flushing detergents.
As for trailers people launch and then leave trailer with salt on it for 8 hours while they fish and then when they retrieve and have a urgency to wash it off for fear of corrosion. Yeah that makes sense!!
Quicker and simpler to just have a flexible bag tank and on return use deckwash pump to give boat clean final rinse and all the rest done on the water with salt water for cleaning off blood and guts. No queue to wait, no being sprayed by some other idiot, no stress and all good.
Just drive it home and use the pressure washer and detergent and do it properly
Car and boat parking spaces are pretty expensive landscaping and the price of a ramp and pontoon lighting etc ain't cheap to maintain. Vandalism as it is open and empty all week . Only in the last few years have they got any help in funding from other sources via grants. Same space with 10 BBQ and kids playground would be far more profitable and less hassle for them I would guess.
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Only hope there is a trebble you forgot somewhere in it and he somehow gets it lodged up their clacker.
Sometimes you want them written of or recovered undamaged so it is over and done with - the inbetween is just a pain in the clacker.
Have lost cars , bikes and even same boat twice over the years and only had the pleasure in catching one bloke , seeing him convicted and then noticing in the court his mate who we couldn't catch on the day but pointed out for the police to arrest was a pleasure. Imagine turning up to court to see if your mate was going to dump on you when you have warrants outstanding. Police didn't persue him on our case as the warrants outstanding put him away and they had already ticked the case solved box. What a system. I won't even mention the insurnce side of it
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Flowcoat is waxed gelcoat.
That is a gelcoat that will cure in contact with air. Gelcoat will not cure and will remain tacky if being used as a topcoat paint as it is designed to be used in moulds.
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Don't forget to archive to DVD all photos . Store them in one area on the computer and dump them all to DVD ASAP. 2 copies - one to the safe and one to parents or family members house. We also copy to a portable drive . Harddrives don't last forever and don't forget to test the GVG works before you store it away. Use archive quality DVD's and recopy them every 4 years as they can get fungus etc and deteriorate.
Last thing you ever want to do is lose your photos and most people I know do nothing and they have a crashing computer or virus and them - all gone.
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Google like so many other sites has security issues now and no doubt in the future. We have banks who currently can't keep their sites and accounts secure even using biometrics and dongles.
To place all your personal details in one spot is in my opinion asking for trouble and allowing other access remotely to that data is dangerous especially in regard to identity theft. To do it on a website that is not controlled fully by an entity iin Australia under Australian law would worry me more. It can be the site, your pc , the pc you are using or any other number of security issues.
Like facebook and all the other things on the net they are good if used as intended but so few people are literate enough to read the conditions and limitations and use them properly.
For example - If that section of Google is later sold off and a life insurer or a company who supplies a service like the CRA ( credit reference association) that data may possible be used to discriminate against you in regards to insurance premiums of possible insurance , access to some care etc etc.
I think the government system will be a big enough issue in regards to privacy and security without tempting all your info to a outside party. That will be one to watch to see if there is really huge gains in care and effeciency and if they get the protocols on who can access/ edit the info correct ( that is doubtful)
There is programs on freeware or buyware avaliable that allow all data to be placed into it that can be kept secure on a PC or deleted after printing and they are also used for house insurance and so on. Haven't looked for ages but am sure they still exist.
Just pointing out there is 2 sides to personal data online and as you have probably guess I am not a supporter in most cases.
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have sent you some stuff
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After some advice.
The boat I have (25 Bertram) has temp gauges fitted in the lower station, but not on the flybridge. Which is where all the steering is done from.
Can I just get a second pair of gauges and double them up with the exisitng ones or does this job require different temp senders or other bits.
Any help appreciated, as I have just had a fair bit of expense on the boat and would like to be able to monitor the engine temps while underway.
Cheers
S
Forget the guages upstairs.
Get a electronic temp alarm with a piezzo screamer and set it at a reasonably low temp to prevent damage. You will hear it anywhere on the boat and it will give you a back up if you aren't looking at the guages which are usually pretty poor and rely on a constant eye. Look them up in go-cart shop or small machinery suppliers. Some have dual independent electrodes ( thermocouple probes) per unit so you can do exhaust and heador waterjacket. They are digital, accurate and work fast as they have electrodes rather than a sender or you can get sender ones. Think where to put them as often exhaust manifold temp is first one to rise with a loss of raw water and is near instant as opposed to . Great on old smaller 2 strokes without alarm systems built in as well.
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Hi Craig
mate not seriously haveing a go at you and I know where your comments are coming from but teh councils are usually a reasonable judge of teh community in that if it is just a whinging resident they have ways to seem like they are doing something but not really do anythig. In other cases they take action as there is regular disturbance and so on and it looks like that is what is happening.
I many years ago specifically gave up fishing wharves as they were easy picking for the sorts of knobs who leave rubbish ,threaten peopel, drink piss ,make unneccessary noise and I didn't want to be associated with them or there fishing.
To think of all the enjoyable nights I had as a kid and tenager out late having a fish on a wharf or just going for a walk along the foreshore and the quiet canny local old blokes who showed me a few tricks and made it safe by just being there. All that will be lost as the Police fisheries and Rangers are not prepared to enforce the law against offenders and instead we have a Council who sees it as a easier ( cheaper , less time consuming , less resident anger , more votes) to ban the decent peopel and never catch and fine teh scum who are not being part of a community.
It's a community and crap behavious should be banned / enforced and people respect places a bit more and respect others rights as well. Guess that education starts at school and home and if not there should be enough Police and Rangers to protect the rest of the community not restrice everyone just because of a few.
Lodged a email to the council as teh survey is a bit lame and doesn't carry a lot of weight. Hope fishing retailers and clubs do teh same
Maybe the banning of alcohol on the foreshore is more appropriate after dark as the first step?
well ive put in my 2cents worth.
look i relise there are bad apples out there but really ,if you buy property next to a wharf what do u expect .
Mate the people bought a house next to a wharf , they didn't specifically buy one and request careless inconsiderate scum to litter and be noisy outside their house
its like when these idiots buy cheap property next to a pub and then complain about the noise .or those resedents that bought units next to luna park and now they dont like the noise .
So often with pubs they are limited in times and opening hours , live music etc and they are set out in LEP and licensing documents . It has been now shown they publicans have a duty of care to stop noise, unruely behavious etc outside their pubs by their patrons. You see it isn't just teh neighbour it is teh other residents 3 bloks away that are the perfect walk for vomit in their front yard , yakeaway bottles left on front lawn etc that have issues. They bought 3 blocks away. Yes they have bought next to a commercial premises but behavious standards and laws don't change due to teh premises zoning they are universal and apply to all of up everywhere. I think a video of any of us when pissed shows how inci=onsiderate anyone can be under the influence
if there are yahoos making to much noise call the police ........
is there appropriate signage up ???????
No there usually isn't - we all know 000 and I feel councils should do better sinage as well
I live on wiloughby road and there is alot of traffic noise so what should i do complain to council to stop traffic between the hrs of 6pm and 8 am .......
Up to you really , your success would be possiblty if the noise was being generated by vehicles that shouldn't be there ( large trucks if there is a weight limit, no compression braking etc etc) or the speed of vehicles. Many residents and councils have lobbied for changes be it speed humps , vehicle weight signs and so on so their quality of life and property value etc Usually have more sucess if it a local govt funded road as all teh other traffic costs them in the long run with extra maintainance so they act early as replacing road surface is too expensive if they donn't fix roads not built for the extra load.
Now just cause you live on a main road and it's noisy if I became you neighbour does that mean I can have the stereo on all night up loud disturbing you? Perhaps it would be fair to get a few mates and park out front in the doof doof machines.? No of course it isn't!!
i keep quiet when i fish such areas and i respect the privacy of these people but REALLY havnt these people got better things to do .
You mean like try and sleep while people break bottles and suck or leave the litter so their kids can't go down onto the wharf in safety??
someone twisted there ankle on some rubbish well LOOK WHERE YOU ARE WALKING .
Yeah i gotta say that everyone is always after someone to bame these days as then they can claim and a hell of a lot is expected of the councils etc ( not as if they an have a garbo and Ranger there 24hrs a day) who can't be everywhere and fix everything instantly no matter what they get paid. It's a compromise and the community has to play it's part along with residents and visitorstaking a bit of care
craig
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Not many places left in sydney Harbour that can easily hold a boat ramp ( one exists there) and it was expressed that a public access one was going in early in the ideas for this area---well we have been screwed- no ramp - this is not right
Instead we get another expensive marina taking up a bay and a drystack for those that can afford it.
What happened to the public ramp should be asked of Maratime and politicians??.
What the $%^& is the boating industry associations going to do when trailerboats can't access the harbour , they won't be selling any more boats.
Queensland's Meridien Marinas to redevelop Sydney's Berrys Bay
'Berrys Bay' Meridien Marinas
NSW Maritime Chief Executive Steve Dunn today announced Meridien Marinas Pty Ltd as the preferred proponent to redevelop the western area of Berrys Bay into a revitalised a maritime precinct.
NSW Maritime and the State Property Authority own a four hectare land and water area at the western shore of Berrys Bay on Sydney’s Waverton Peninsula.
'The area to be redeveloped comprises the vacant former BP land site and dolphin wharf, and the existing site leased by Woodleys,' Mr Dunn said.
'Following an exhaustive analysis of proposals from an open tender process, I am pleased to announce that Meridien Marinas has been short-listed for negotiations to enter into a Development Agreement for both sites. The aim is to revitalise this important maritime precinct.
'The project will upgrade boating facilities, as well as provide for offices and ancillary businesses. There is also the requirement for the redevelopment to have public foreshore access, as well as parking for the precinct and surrounding maritime areas.'
Meridien Marinas’ proposed $40 million capital investment at the sites includes:
• Capacity to berth 92 vessels ranging from 12m to 30m in length;
• Vessel sewage pumpout and refuelling facilities;
• Berths for visiting and pick-up / drop-off vessels;
• A 60 vessel dry stack storage facility;
• A 1150 square metre covered vessel maintenance facility;
• Maritime workshops, offices and ancillary businesses including a café;
• Launch area for small craft such as canoes and kayaks, with storage space;
• Parking for 140 cars; and
• Foreshore access and retention of the heritage convict-era bund wall and original seawall.
The Queensland based company has extensive experience in constructing and/or managing similar developments on the Gold Coast, Airlie Beach and Port Douglas.
'The development will provide badly needed vessel storage on the northern side of Sydney Harbour and will modernise and revitalise maritime service facilities in the area, as well as providing public access along the site,' Mr Dunn said.
'This Berrys Bay maritime precinct is part of a network of such locations around Sydney Harbour being established to support the recreational boating industry, which turns over more than $2 billion a year in NSW and employs 14,000 people.'
It is anticipated that the development will be staged and fully operational by 2012.
by Neil Patchett 4:18 AM Wed 26 Aug 2009 GMT
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Even if you don't do a whole formal report please just spend 5 minutes and call the local cop station and tell them that thieves are working the ramps and bays as otherwise they don't know. They will hopefully ask a car to specifically drive past now and again and at least be seen about. It isn't kids as it is happening in school hours and after midnight in my case. Saw a spare on a trailer the other day hanging by the padlock and the bloke said someone had removed the nuts before they saw the padlock or maybe they were after the whole bracket - that was daylight as well.
The wheel stealing or letting tyres down at ramps in QLD was a ploy to get the people to unhitch the trailer locked to the car and then when the owner went to go get a new wheel they would simply put wheel back on, pump it up and steal trailer , electrics, safety gear from unattended boat or whole boat and trailer package. Have a good look at who is about and leave someone at ramp.
I would seriously pay a old bloke to just sit at a ramp and watch the cars as over the years between mates we have had windows, wheels , , mud guards?? they left one of their old one for us haha ?? winch, tools , rollers and lights. Can't believe they risk a criminal record for $20-100 but I guess they know they are unlikely to get caught.
Cameras would be a nice deterrant and would stop some of the other hoon activities around ramps and people might be a bit more courteous late at night with noise etc. Can't rely on cameras working and there is always blind spots.
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That method and data is crap. How did they assess how many people went fishing? Just multiply by number of fishing lic and add 20% for all the kids? .
I can tell you crap in crap out.
Where are the bycatch numbers?
The peer reviews all refer to the process not the data. That is not a good process for what they were trying to achieve. An actuary or statistician would have pups laughing at the conclusions.
No egg anywhere. Sorry in advance to anyone who believes those figures.
Why don't they just add up the fish obituarys in the paper or interview teh fish?
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Is there an online almanac for Sydney or East Coast?
There is a lots of thieving going on at the minute and it looks organised so beware. Doesn't matter if boat is on the water or at your house the scumbags are about. I just can't work out what they do with the stuff if they aren't stealing to order as they have been taking motor parts and safety, , trailer, navigation equipment. Hope everyone can keep an eye out for them and report anything suspicious or ask what the #$%^they are up to to disturb em. Honest people will have no problem having a chat ut thieves will make up all sorts of stories. Police are aware and hopefully looking out a bit more but most people don't report anything so if it doesn't show up on the numbers they can't spend time on it.
They are doing over moored boats both day and night all over Sydney again. Can only guess stuff is going interstate
No penalty is enough
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Yeah until you have been in 2 boats side by side and feel the difference few people understand just how much difference set up can make - not top speed but handleing , fuel , ease of tracking etc. Have proven to myself a few times that it isn't the hulls or motor but the set up or the person in the helm chair.
Each boat requires a fine tune to it's general load and conditions. Just make sure it doesn't get so fine tuned to not be as usefull in all conditions. No use going for flat water speed if you spend your life offshore at 25knots so to speak and vice versa.
Few sales peolel have enough time on the water in their own boats they sell to give fine tuning so do a general set up and 99% of clients are happy so it never gets touched even if it isn't right for the client
Geg - adjustments - you must be kidding it is only just run in!! Anything you thought could be better? Be interesting to hear what they do and what is noticeable be it to the way it feels or to performance. A month without it - are you insane Whoops - Just noticed you had a fishing break in that month for sanity. Keep a reord of adjustments so you can always go back to the way they were if it was better or felt better.
More experience with the boat and better use of big trim tabs might help teh singles issues if it isn't the hull shape itself or the trim of the motor. All hulls respond differently and a lt of the time it is a perception rather than a reality that can be measured or something as simple as helm position or boat balance. Get that bloke in your boat and see if he percieves the opposite positives and then you know you are on the money. Contenders are very wll behaved
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Going off some of the sea trial data I read for contenders with similar hull, and twin 150's to a single 300. The top end speeds were only 1 or 2kn difference with the twins getting the upper hand. Fuel consumptions were also only marginally different with the single winning that side.
Only thing I don't like about running twins is how fiddley it is to get equal revs on both motors......
They need a equalizer button on them to make life ezy.
Greg
A lot of 150hp actually put out a bit more than 150hp as it is a competitive HP range so manufacturers don't want to be seen as the lightweight. That might explain it but then again the black arts or set up and propping would as well especially with a 300p having to be very deep in the centerline of the hull.
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Put it in the best spot next to the helm well clear. Wouldn't want to say it but it ain't going to pop out in swell or anything so "touching up the bracket " so it would float free wouldn't hurt. That way if the boat sinks it floats and goes off automatically. Brackets will be cheap to replace. Make sure it is listed on your boat insurance as it is an expensive item at full retail not the discount you bought it at and if a thief takes it ( like mine ) just report it and if it ever shows up they will know it's stolen. Hopefully AMSA can put up alist of all stolen ones so they are even more useless and wortless to the thieves.
Stuff in bags sinks - I think for a boat ebirb it has to be mounted to be considered as safety equipment so in a bag unless it is a 2nd one will get you a ticket in a bad mood day. Was rules about it being within a distance from the helm but I think it is now just "easily accessable" - and that is up to interpretation
Thee should be a extra charge on scum who steal safety gear.
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You mean they skinned KD lang and made sandels out of her-- Good to see some one found a use for her. Hope they don't make a noise when you walk with then as that would be unbearable.
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Yeah if ya catch ya bait in Botany it saves you time as it comes pre salted.
Governments really are out there to help fishermen and we make it hard for them as it is both a sport and a recreation let alone the industry and they don't know what box to put us in. Shame there isn't a fishing org that has the backing of more fishermen .
Saw that the marine parks people were doing a publicity stunt at the Labor conference at Dartling harbour. Smart folk as they had every polly see them and hear their view and had media statments and photo sessions so it made the news. Just goes to show it isn't about the facts more about keeping your members happy and giving the cause some publicity and the members will keep donating. Something to learn from that and it is regardless of facts or the cause it is all about how effectively you lobby and lobbying the right people - in this case politicians and of all places right next to teh boat show at Darling harbour dressed as a romanesque marine warrior and mermaid. Argghhhhhhhh
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by the way this goverment is going none of us will have boats / fishing gear. Just a fishing net & a fish tank in our lounge rooms to fish from.
john
They are already stealing our salt water -- at the desal plant!!!!!!! Once they get addicted they can't stop.
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If you were to do it please measure it out and please mark each end and use a piece of string to get em straight. Nothing worse when they look crap.
There are propper line marking paints ( cans meant to be used upside down with right nozzle) and a little trolly with trigger or a 3foot stick as a extension trigger ( blackwoods or Hardware and general would have em , total tools ) makes it avery quick job. Flouro colours all the surveyers use .
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44m Welll with that I don't need a boat anymore??? 3rd harbour crossing or are they doing a 22m long flexi floating pontoon on either side??
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Least he has a big bucket so has possibly been flushing it. A good thing
In a small enclosed area it only takes a little smoke to look like a lot.
Check what oil he is using and what mix he is mixing - 25 to 1 , 50 to 1 or 100 to 1. Confirm that correct mix for that motor. A lot of people just put extra oil in and don't realise the issues it creates when a motor spends a lot of time at low revs.
Check the transom out , Ie see if motor flexes it when you push and pull on it with a fair bit of weight , check for leaks on water test and check if the trailer out thoroughly especially if it is a painted or freshly painted job. Tyres are often old and crappy so just make sure you allow for all the things you have to do to make it a safe reliable rig including all your lifejackets , oars etc..
Just by talking to the bloke you may work out if he has any mechanical nouse or common sense so a simple question like have you serviced teh trailer recently and what was done. If the reply is yeah mate , repack teh bearings every 6 months and replaced them 2 years ago you at least know he knows to do maintainance. Even if he says shop did it last month he is aware of need for it.
Check out the electrics,all working, if any as they are often the last thing people maintain but if they all look neat or have been redone?? You'll probably have to raise the all round white light so it is higher than the highest point on the boat as Maratime are getting strict on rules at night
Last one. Make sure the bloke really does own the boat,it is boatcoded and has no money outstanding and you are buying it from it's physical registered address.
I am always a sceptic and cynic as I have seen many mates buy lemons because they didn't do proper checks but it is always good to be pleasantly surprised when you get exactly what you want at a good price.
Boat show starts this week so if the bloke isn't getting out of boating he may be off to get a new package and want money in his pocket before he goes.?? Generally quite a few rigs up for sale just before and after boat shows due to upgrades and spur of the moment purchases or trade in at dealers.
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They often steal teh first battery nicely by just throwing it overboard. nowing your going to replace it with a brand new one in a week or so and come back.
yes we have been pillaged last year but have a surprise if they come back which I hope they do, Stainless bar and a couple of padlocks so it will take an effort next time and we know someone was on board having a look.