Jewie Rigs Or Sp's

[wdfish]

Hi fishraiders

Keen to tackle a few jewies on both sp and live bait but not sure what sp's to use or what Live Bait rigs to use. Appreciate any info you want to share.

Main locations will be Botany Bay / Georges River up to Woronora and Port Hacking..

cheers and thanks Wd

[Sharky]

Land based or from a boat I found what I wrote in an old thread it will give you tips for using lures good luck

I like Squigie drop bears berkley jerk baits storms can be good as well along with 3 inch yum shads white with the pink tails have a great action.

As for rigs I change lead to suit the current strong hook are a must, If you want to go all out the tt rev heads

with the spinner blade are great too but the cost big $$$. I find squigie heavy wire hooks are great and sharp too. Just remeber when you feel a hit big or small strike strait away they tend to spit lures very quickly.

Hey Jewnut when it comes to jewies they can be lazy buggers when i look for a land based spot i look for a few things

*Bait if theres bait like choppers/mullet prawns baby bream ect thats a start

*Structure Bridge pilons rock formations concrete walls ect

*Edies fast moving water next to slow moving water they like to pick things off as they go past eddies are great and at certain times of the tide there are different spots that will create them

*Lights and shadowlines if you have all of the above and you can find a shadow line your chances are pretty good.

*water depth you would be surprised how shallow they will go at night for a feed at

my favourite spot the water at its deepest is 3 meters but with all of the above in your favour it makes for a great spot and even better there are heaps of snags now the ironic thing is its the snags that give them places to hide and hold on the bottom

*Rain if it spissing down with rain and the water is dirty it sends them nuts

*On retrieves i find a similar retrieve to a flathead one works well just remember to keep your lure in the water for as long as possible and keep in mind you will never know which part of the retrieve they will strike

I hope this info helps on you your way to your first sp jewie Good luck

Edited February 13, 2006 by Sharky

[wdfish]

Thanks Sharky...

I'm fishing from a 4.2 tinnie so I can get to the spots. A mate reckons under and around the como bridge floating pillies on gangs under a float???

Good advice or not ???

Thanks for your sp tips...

[Sharky]

Como bridge has jewies written all over it mate. You have bait, structure, lights, and plenty of eddies

and with the woronora spilling out into the goerges river its a fantastic spot.

[kevvie]

i prefer the CCB over the Como bridge for jew. sp's in the day and livies in the night works for me.

[jay power]

can you use SPs at night to catch jewies.

[wdfish]

thanks guy's. Will update on progress using a few options. cheers WD

[Coach]

can you use SPs at night to catch jewies.

I do and have head mixed success

3 trips in total

1st = Lost fish (didn't have trace, but he was big and the head shakes indicated he was a sizable jew)

2nd = 20Lb Fish caught (trace works!!!)

3rd = Lucked out (was a dropping tide and there was a lot of weed)

I used big storm shads and dragged them back in really slowly over the sand... both hits were near the end of the retrieve...right in the white water... both hits around 9:30pm.

Still need to do further testing thou, and I have only just started on this plastics at night thing..

Good luck

[Guest danielinbyron]

an ol guy slurred at me once ....nothin wrong with there site....i've caught allot of jew on 6tinch tsunamis at night.... on full and new moons .. white and dark shads...i am starting to believe that they're pretty line smart in popular river destinations and need to be snuck up on.with smaller shads and lighter line.. i also like to use halco laser 190 pro trolling lure..in "king brown"they cast well.

my favorite jew bait is tailor.. and i'm starting to believe the myth of the two hook rig with combo bait... tailor and worm or squid or prawn. or whatever baitfish are around but two baits a few inches apart..and two different types of bait

favorite bait rig is a sinker on 60 pound leader between two swivels about 20 cm and 60cm leader to 5/0 schnelled you can leave a few inches hanging off the tag end " down the hook shaft"and tie a second hook on to that with a locked blood knot...

if you do get fresh bait ie tailor yakka....

cut a fillet tail back about for or five inches long..,.

it will be tri angular..

take the WIDE end the tri angle and cut four or five strips about half WAY toward the thin end .. and about a centremetre or 2 apart... so that the bait looks like a kids drawing of an octopus...or a waving hand in the water... bait up thin end first and make sure the business end of the hook is well clear of the bait protuding right through..they have big hard mouths and don't

.SWALLOW BAIT FOR A WHILE ... so if you do get a touch on bait don't strike keep feeding line out ..GOOD LUCk

Edited February 14, 2006 by danielinbyron

[kenmare]

Hi guys,

Like WD, I'm trying to crack the code for jewies on SPs.

There's some useful information here about shads and other tails.

I've just bought a heap of 6" Manns pearl shads, and also large Squidgie fish and 4" Berkley power minnows in chartreuse. Have I done the right thing?

I reckon these tails might do the job, but what jig heads would be best to use with them? I've heads from 3/8 oz to 1 1/2 oz that might work. Used a 1 oz scrounger the other night, but found it ran very deep, and eventually I hung it up and lost it on a reef.

What size, weight and style of head do you guys use in the estuary?

What's the best head to use fishing the beach into the night?

Is it better to fish a light head, or a heavy one which keeps the softie near the bottom?

Regards,

Bob

Edited February 15, 2006 by kenmare

[Sharky]

For jig heads its similar to how heavy a sinker you use when bait fishing.

Firstly when selecting jig heads I look for hook size and strength. 5\0 hooks are good for me and then I pick weights. You dont want your plastic to sink like a rock, you want your plastic to have action especially if its a shad.

To much and it will sink like a rock and drag on the bottom and get snagged to little and the tail wont pulse on the drop and it will get carried away by the current too much. I change jig head weights about 4 times during a spin sesh.

I usually start with a 1/4 ounce head then as the current picks up a change to a 3/8 or even 1/2 ounce head when the current slows right down I use a 1/6 ounce head. Trial and error are half the fun.

Thats it all this talk of jewies Im going for a jewie spin tonight.

[kenmare]

Firstly when selecting jig heads I look for hook size and strength. 5\0 hooks are good for me and then I pick weights. You dont want your plastic to sink like a rock, you want your plastic to have action especially if its a shad.

To much and it will sink like a rock and drag on the bottom and get snagged to little and the tail wont pulse on the drop and it will get carried away by the current too much. I change jig head weights about 4 times during a spin sesh.

I usually start with a 1/4 ounce head then as the current picks up a change to a 3/8 or even 1/2 ounce head when the current slows right down I use a 1/6 ounce head. Trial and error are half the fun.

Thats it all this talk of jewies Im going for a jewie spin tonight.

Hi Sharky,

How'd you go last night on the jewies?

Thanks for your tips about selecting jig heads. So, you really need to see what works best in the conditions you find on the day?

Makes sense to select the hook size first and then find the best weight.

Do you reckon the style of jig head matters? I've 3/8 oz and 1/2 oz ball head jigs (hooks slightly smaller than 5/0), 1/2 oz shad heads and 5/8 oz bullet heads (both around 4/0 -- 5/0). In your experience, what style of jig head works best for jew?

The ball heads are painted fluero green, the shads and bullets are both unpainted. Do you reckon jig head colour makes any difference?

Regards,

Bob

The ball

Edited February 16, 2006 by kenmare

[Sharky]

In my experience jig head colour doesnt make a huge diference for me. However I have been thinking about experimenting with a few new ways to spice up jig heads with lumanecent paint or nail polish. I got a few funny looks at the chemist when I was at the nail polish stand looking at the sparkley silver colours

Im also working a perfecting the ultimate jewie sp rig wich I will unvale at the jewie social. Im going to try to draw and post it up.