BOB_SMITH Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 The Fishing Party A.B.N: 76 086 236 465 HEAD OFFICE (Federal, NSW State) 11Watts Close SINGLETON HEIGHTS NSW 2330 Ph/fax 0265 560338 0432252789 Email: sinali@optusnet.com.au www.thefishingparty.info January 9, 2007 The Fishing Party Election agenda Circular to the fishing community, clubs and general public. THE FISHING PARTY (NSW)- POLITICAL FISHING STATEMENT AND POSITION ON MARINE PARKS The Fishing Party:- • Is an independent political party. • Will support and campaign total access rights for low impact sustainable fishing. • Will encourage and protect customary and traditional use of the marine resource. • Will address and campaign on a centre line approach to fisheries management/legislation and (Marine Protected Area’s if proven to be needed). • Opposes the current/proposed NSW Government Marine Park No-Fishing Zones. • Will call for a 20 year moratorium on MPA’s, demanding properly funded localised research and all existing zones declared general use. • Will demand proper stakeholder consultation and participation in the process. • Will consider no-take fishing zones only if no other action is appropriate. • Condemns the Labor/Greens Marine Park deal. • Is campaigning politically to end the NSW Labor 12 year lockout agenda on both the land and water. • Will continue to oppose any extremist anti-fishing agenda. • Supports the $%^&* proposals in principal but not limited to, and will participate in their actions if sanctioned. • Supports in principal, the Coalition Marine Park Election announcement (written one) but not limited to. • Will liaise with the major parties with sensible fishery management propositions. • Will support evidenced based science conservation and dismiss emotional rhetoric. • Will endeavor to get proper and fair funding for fisheries management. • Will put our ideas in submissions when they are called. • Will discuss and put relevant matters to Government Ministers. • Will keep the public informed on important findings and research. • Will support appropriate Government funded buyouts to the commercial fishing industry on a state-wide basis. • Will support Total Allowable Catches from a science perspective. • Will support seasonal closures on a science biomass evaluation. • Will support the business community for compensation in times of Government controlled business denial through lock-up actions. • Will push for environmental reform on water quality and quantity. The Fishing Party has a political commitment to make and is not a lobby group, having no cause to conflict with any such group who is determined to alert or debate sensible fishing related issues with the government of the day. The party has the sole intention to get representatives elected into the parliamentary systems of Australia to gain bargaining power on any legislation along with the marine resource decisions, access and management and standing up for family values on everything else. Marine parks with no-take zones lacking in evidence based local science and research, major environmental problems of water quality and quantity, lack of supporting infrastructure such as ramps, parking, wash-downs, public access and proper resource funding along with family value issues are campaign platforms for any prospective candidate either in the House of Reps or the Senate (still a few spots left on our 15+ ticket). There is a need to combat the green dominance of political manipulation which can only be achieved at the voting box and threats to politicians of loosing their seat or governance. The party is trying to offer this in calling for candidates to stand in the 55 Labor electorates as the threat and for a chance to get some representation in the important Upper House where the Greens get their power to make deals. One or even two TFP representatives would be an absolute threat. The Greens are after a fourth representative in John Kaye for the Senate to further upset the balance. This MUST not happen if you want to remain enjoying and accessing the outdoors. In the last election TFP promised that if elected the first priority would be to commit to a stakeholder group/committee/board to formulate actions to be taken in the Upper House/Lower house so as to give directions to the member to proceed with. That promise is still the first priority from TFP. The Fishing Party is backing a change of government at this stage to halt the anti-fishing/lack of research and funding process. There are no hidden agendas with TFP and it is entirely up to the NSW constituents to decide their future but we think 12 years of failings, deceit, lies, inaction by an arrogant Labor should be halted for the sake of NSW and give the other side a go. That means that a vote TFP will be optionally directed to the Coalition. This coming March 2007 NSW Election will see many Crossbenchers (Independent and Party) in the Upper House depart politics. With major parties controlled by the Greens it will be a fiasco and whether you are on the land or sea you will be restricted further. Please don’t let it happen. The below seats are Labor held, where we see anglers as a valuable threat in political terms. The Greens are standing in all 93 seats and Labor needs them so a vote for the greens is a vote for Labor which also means more bad news for the fishing and recreational communities. Auburn, Balmain, Bankstown, Bathurst, Blacktown, Blue Mountains, Cabramatta, Camden, Campbelltown, Canterbury, Cessnock, Charlestown, Coogee, Drummoyne, East Hills, Fairfield, Granville, Heathcote, Heffron, Wollongong, Keira, Kiama, Kogarah, Lake Macquarie, Lakemba, Liverpool, Londonderry, Macq Fields Maitland, Maroubra, Marrickville, Menai, Miranda, Monaro, Mount Druitt, Mulgoa, Newcastle, Oatley, Parramatta, Gosford, Penrith, Port Stephens, Riverstone, Rockdale, Ryde, Shellharbour, Smithfield, Strathfield, Swansea, The Entrance Toongabbie, Tweed, Wallsend, Wollondilly, Wyong VOTE 1 The Fishing Party and direct your preferences so Labor or the Greens fail to get them. We are still Interested in prospective candidates (you don’t have to be a member) please contact Robert Smith in the strictest of confidentiality until otherwise directed. TFP is seeking new members/donations and volunteers to help at polling booths on Election Day, CAN YOU OR YOUR GROUP HELP. TFP signs and How to Vote handouts will be available. Put a sign on your boat and park out front of booths- any help will be appreciated. A list of the booths will be available on www.thefishingparty.info Authorised by Robert Smith Chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Hunter Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Bob, Can you spell out the preferences so all readers can understand where your coming from.Voting can be very confusing for us laymen ...Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB_SMITH Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Preferences in NSW Election The last NSW State election (2003) saw OPTIONAL preferences for the first time. The method of voting for the Legislative Assembly (your local member) is optional preferential. This means that to cast a formal vote, the elector must place the number ‘1’ in the square next to their first choice candidate. They then have the ‘option’ to show further preferences by placing the number ‘2’ in the square next to their second choice candidate, the number ‘3’ next to their third choice and so on. They may number as many or as few squares as they wish This means that you personally have to place where you want your vote to go after your number one (1) initial vote for the person (L/Assembly) This means that that there is NO box to just place 1 and then leave the allocation of preference deals to the political party wheeling and dealing Legislative Council-Upper House-Senate You are able to vote 2 ways here- Remember winning the Upper House does not give a party government but gives a chance for small/single issue/other party’s to have a say and bring issues into the parliamentary system for debate, and depending on how big or small the majority is the crossbenchers can determine policy. TFP will ensure FISHING is a regular topic if they get the nod. The Upper House voting is done as ‘Optional Preferential Proportional’. That means that you can vote above the line or below the line Above the line: There will be groups of candidates of 15 -21 across the voting paper with a party/group name and box to number each above the line. A voter can place his 1st preference (1) in a group box of his choice. That means his preferences flow down to each one of those 15-21 candidates after the top candidate gets a quota. A voter may place the number 2 in another group box above the line where preferences flow again down that list and then 3 in another and so on Below the line: A voter may choose to vote below the line and for a formal vote a minimum of numbers 1 to 15 must be made in candidate boxes anywhere below the line. A voter may keep allocating his/her preferences further with the number 16 and so on for as many candidates as they wish. A political party cannot physically deliver preferences to any other party as what happens in Federal elections where every formal vote counts. If you choose to only vote the minimum numbers in NSW election then your vote expires when the last of your candidates are knocked out of the ballot. Your vote may have already helped in a candidate being elected. Party’s such as TFP can only indicate on their How To Vote handout how the party would prefer you to vote. It is your choice of who you number. We have opted to direct our supporters to the Coalition but you may choose Labor. We do recommend or better still PLEA that you vote greens LAST or even not at all TFP is still keen to talk with any interested candidates for the Central Coast area and we have a few spots left on our 15 plus Upper House ticket. For a cost of $250 nomination fee and a couple of hundred for some HTV cards you might just make a difference. TFP will supply the signs to display. You do not have to be a member of TFP to do this. Why not have a go and get some mates to help, there is plenty to campaign and complain about in NSW above and beyond fishing related stuff. Vote 1 TFP and then your choice is pretty simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB_SMITH Posted January 23, 2007 Author Share Posted January 23, 2007 If you have an interest in the rules and regulations of NSW election here it is > http://www.elections.nsw.gov.au/ Bob Smith I Fish I Vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB_SMITH Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 TFP has confirmed (Sydney) candidates in Ryde, Macquarie Fields and Sydney seats Anybody interested the Botany Bay areas of Maroubra, Rockdale or Heffron electorates here is your chance to have your protest. Also Gosford, Terrigal and Wyong is still being targetted. Get a gang together and give Labor and the Greens a message. Contact or pm Bob Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Bob As you are advocating that people direct their preferences away from Labour at the upcoming NSW election, to help me make up my mind could you answer the following questions: Have the Liberals guaranteed that the money from fishing licenses will be quarantined for spending on fishing facilities as it is now or will it be consumed into consolidated revenue; and How many fisheries officers will lose their jobs as part of the 20,000 public servants that Peter Debnam says he will sack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemmm Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Bob Can you also confirm if it is true that the Libs are going to reopen a lot of areas to the pro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choad Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 (edited) does the fishing party support commercial fishing practices? how do the greens detract from fishing? Edited February 20, 2007 by choad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOB_SMITH Posted February 21, 2007 Author Share Posted February 21, 2007 Bob As you are advocating that people direct their preferences away from Labour at the upcoming NSW election, to help me make up my mind could you answer the following questions: Have the Liberals guaranteed that the money from fishing licenses will be quarantined for spending on fishing facilities as it is now or will it be consumed into consolidated revenue; and How many fisheries officers will lose their jobs as part of the 20,000 public servants that Peter Debnam says he will sack? Lasty TFP is suggesting that the Labor/Green alliance be broken and that means a change of govt. TFP has an understanding that the Libs/Nats are providing $40 mil to pay out some more com fishers TFP has witnessed Mr Stoner promising that ALL RFL monies are returned to recfishing on tape. TFP has an understanding that the Marine Parks WILL BE REVISITED AND REVISED I have no information that com fishers will get more ground opened. TFP WILL CAMPAIGN FOR SUSTAINABLE FISHERIES AND THAT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL, RECREATIONAL AND INDIGENEOUS. TFP will be pushing for more funding which will mean more appropriate FO's rather than seat warmers and TFP would push that in all departments. Bob Smith does the fishing party support commercial fishing practices? how do the greens detract from fishing? Choad TFP supports ALL SUSTAINABLE FISHING INCLUDING COM FISHERS. We support Australians eating Australian seafood. The GREENS want to lock Australia up including 50% of your fishing. What do you reckon we think about GREENS. Bob Smith Conservation through sustainable use not lockouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniak Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hi Guys, Please note that liberal/nat policy is for a 36mill buyout of commercial fishers beginning next year with a 20 year sunset clause in other words no returning to the industry for 20 years. Maniak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Duncan Gay was on Hi-Tide this morning and I asked Keiran and Bruce to ask him how many Fisheries Officers would be sacked as part of the Liberal policy of sacking 20,000-25,000 NSW public servants and they refused to put the question to him. This really concerns me as no one from the Liberal party is prepared to answer this question. It will be no good if all the Marine Parks are revoked but there is no-one to police the undersize and excess fish taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapperpete Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Duncan Gay was on Hi-Tide this morning and I asked Keiran and Bruce to ask him how many Fisheries Officers would be sacked as part of the Liberal policy of sacking 20,000-25,000 NSW public servants and they refused to put the question to him. This really concerns me as no one from the Liberal party is prepared to answer this question. It will be no good if all the Marine Parks are revoked but there is no-one to police the undersize and excess fish taking. Lasty The culling of the 20,000 deadwood beurocrats is a federal issue ie Kevin Rudd , Duncan Gaye is state , and im pretty sure i heard him say they were going to recruit another 15 fisheries officers if they get in power. cheers Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Lasty The culling of the 20,000 deadwood beurocrats is a federal issue ie Kevin Rudd , Duncan Gaye is state , and im pretty sure i heard him say they were going to recruit another 15 fisheries officers if they get in power. cheers Pete NO, the NSW Liberal party policy is to partly fund its election promises by sacking 20,000-25,000 NSW state public servants. This has nothing to do with the Federal Government or Kevin Rudd. What Duncan Gay said was that there was a report handed to the NSW Government last year that recommended, amongst other things, that another 15 fisheries officers be employed, but that the government did not implement that aspect of the report. He did not give an undertaking to recruit those 15 inspectors. I have a real concern that if Peter Debnam wins the election and sacks this many people that Fisheries inspectors will be included in those sacked. Also not all people employed in the public sector are "deadwood beurocrats"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemmm Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 If the Libs are cutting 20,000 jobs it will effect more than just fisheries inspectors. It must have some effect on waterways, waterpolice etc etc Thats before you look at the wider areas outside of fishing Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 If the Libs are cutting 20,000 jobs it will effect more than just fisheries inspectors. It must have some effect on waterways, waterpolice etc etc Thats before you look at the wider areas outside of fishing Dave Dave They are my concerns. They have announced this policy which most of us think will have wide ranging impacts, not just on fishing, and then seem to be reluctant to discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniak Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Dave They are my concerns. They have announced this policy which most of us think will have wide ranging impacts, not just on fishing, and then seem to be reluctant to discuss it. hi guys, Debnam has stated that the job reductions will be via amalgamation of departments, natural attrition (retirements) and reducing duplication of services. In other words the bureaucratic empires that labour have been building over the past 12 years will be reduced to a size designed to deliver efficient services to the public rather than to simply fill the coffers of fat cat management at the expense of taxpayers. Look at what has happened to govt services with labour. Taxes have increased- where has the money gone???The important workers on the ground ( nurses, doctors, police, teachers) will not be reduced surplus, unnecessary, greedy, inefficient management will be. MAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 The increased State taxes have gone to fill the $3 billion GST shortfall caused by the Federal Government giving the GST paid by the people of NSW to other states primarily QLD and WA. The people of NSW pay $13 billion in GST but the Federal Government only returns $10 billion hence the NSW Government has to maintain the State taxes and charges to make up this shortfall otherwise it will have to cut services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagoon Posted March 15, 2007 Share Posted March 15, 2007 Man, i just went to the fishing party website to check it out and they feature stuff by Alan Jones. Jeezzzz... Alan Jones... man i love to fish, and i hate mainstream NSW politics, but not that much!!!! Suggest TFP get him off their website & would be better off without his support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted March 16, 2007 Share Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) In my opinion, Who ever forms govt after these elections,and if u believe the polls its gona be Labour, will most likely form a pact with the Greens,All fishos no.1 enemy. In fact I hear that Labour are already accepting Green preferences. If u wana enjoy ur fishing we can do without the Greens who wana create more no fishing zones,and wana create more ice users by decriminalising methamphetamine possesion.Great,just what we need more drug fueled violence and crime. Its good to live on a green planet but not one ruled by the Green police. My opinion only,sorry if I offend anyone. penguin Edited March 16, 2007 by penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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