RockHoppin Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Hey Raiders, Was wondering if anyone has had any experience with the following blanks for drummer: PAC COMP FSU 4144G AND 5144G loaded both up and was very impressed with the action.... was wondering if anyone uses these rods specifically for drummer...i spend 95% of my time fishing the stones and am after a blank that is specifically suited and built for pigs. Fish are in the 3-4kg range so am in need of a serious blank that can handle these bruisers... but at the end of the day im just after the best pig stick available....any recommendation will be appreciated. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsswordfisherman Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 (edited) Hi Rockhoppin, I am sure members will give you some responses here. Fishfinder are suppliers of these blanks, check their link in the sponsors directory Cheers mrsswordfisherman Edited February 24, 2007 by mrsswordfisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy0884 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Hi Rockhoppin, personally i would recommend the FSU5144G, the heavier blank will give you more grunt! The 5144G has a much faster action than the 4144G. Tony at Fishfinder Bait and Tackle has a wealth of knowledge on building rock specialist rods for Pigs and beasts like grouper! Call in and see what he can do for you. Best Regards Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockHoppin Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Thanks Sam, I've only just recently finalised the specs on a groper stick (Kilwell FSU 6120) that Tony will be building for me in the next few weeks...gonna be one hell of a brutal rod. Was really interested to hear from anyone who actually owns and uses a FSU 5144G....personally I thought the action and feel was awesome but wanted some 1st hand feedback on how they actually handle pigs. Sounds like a winner anyway.....thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomahawk1999 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Hey Rockhoppin, The 4144 is ok for potholing and small pigs but lacks the low down grunt for bigger fish (over say 2kg). I use a 6144, basically has the same tip action ie will still cast unweighted cungi's a country mile but has the balls in the butt to stop big fish. I run 2 alveys on this stick, a little 61/2" for 6kg and a 7 1/2" for 10kg and it is versatile to handle both. I fish a ledge occassionally that calls for you to lift fish and I have dry lifted 3+kg fish on this stick. This stick has also stopped groper to 12.5kg and pigs to 7.5 kg also some hefty jews and sharks off the beach. Can't speak highly enough of this combo. Hope this post helps with your decision. Cheers Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockHoppin Posted February 24, 2007 Author Share Posted February 24, 2007 Hey Rockhoppin, The 4144 is ok for potholing and small pigs but lacks the low down grunt for bigger fish (over say 2kg). I use a 6144, basically has the same tip action ie will still cast unweighted cungi's a country mile but has the balls in the butt to stop big fish. I run 2 alveys on this stick, a little 61/2" for 6kg and a 7 1/2" for 10kg and it is versatile to handle both. I fish a ledge occassionally that calls for you to lift fish and I have dry lifted 3+kg fish on this stick. This stick has also stopped groper to 12.5kg and pigs to 7.5 kg also some hefty jews and sharks off the beach. Can't speak highly enough of this combo. Hope this post helps with your decision. Cheers Rod. Thanks mate, is this 6144 a PAC Comp blank and if so can you please provide the full specs on it please...wouldnt mind checking it out. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane87 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Are you after a 12 ft blank or will 10ft do the trick. If you want the shorter rod with maybe a short extension in the bottom then have a look at one of the live fibre bz10lmc blanks. They were modelled on the fsu 5120 blank but are made with graphite and have a much lighter and more sensative tip with heaps of low down grunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomahawk1999 Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Hi Rockhoppin, These blanks were originally made by Butterworth, they were available from 4144 right up to 9144. The numbers basically mean 4 wraps of glass in the butt in the case of the 4144 up to 9 wraps of glass in the 9144. The more glass the stiffer in the butt, the heavier the line it will handle. The 144 refers to the length i.e 144 inches or 12 feet. They were also available in either H or L configuration which suited high or low winch mount positioning depending on the prefered reel. I am not sure if Butterworth are still in business your local tackle shop should be able to help you with suppliers. Regards, Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane87 Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 The blanks that were asked about in the first post are not the butterworth range that you have reffered to. The (FSU) 4144 and 5144 are a completely different blank to the (mt) 4144-9144 that were made by butterworth and are still made by snyder and killwel. The FSU range is a lot faster and heavier than the comparable MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelostreef Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 (edited) Hey rockhoppin, Adding to whats been said on this topic butterworth is no longer a company , the main players in these styles of blanks now are P-COMPS (AUS) , KILWELL (NZ) , and SNYDERGLAS (AUS) all the mentioned makers create great blanks though by using any of the blanks in the MT series are not as good as using the blanks in the FSU series, these blanks load alot faster than the MT series and have a hell of alot of grunt in the butt section..though P-COMPS also have a small range of FSU style blanks in longer lenghts than 10' up to and including a 7177 or 177", below i have listed a few that P-comp have in there range and all the blank specs that i could find for you if you need help in working out what it all means take it into FISHFINDER and they will help you on what is your best options, happy pig hunting FSU 4120 1 PCE ALSO IN A GRAPH BUTT FSU 5120 1 PCE ALSO IN A GRAPH BUTT FSU 6120 1 PCE FSU 4144 1 PCE FSU 5144 1 PCE FSU 4162 1 PCE FSU 5162 1 PCE SU 7153 1 PCE SU 7177 1 PCE All the above blanks are P-COMPS also ask tony if there is anything new in the KILWELL stable , he can make a call and find out for you.... Edited March 7, 2007 by thelostreef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zook2001 Posted March 7, 2007 Share Posted March 7, 2007 I really like the old MT blanks but there is no doubt weight becomes an issue with an 8 or 9 wrap blank and so the FSU series were developed. I don’t mind the FSU 4120 but anything longer is pretty gutless in a 4 wrap rod. Regards Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockHoppin Posted March 7, 2007 Author Share Posted March 7, 2007 Hey rockhoppin, Adding to whats been said on this topic butterworth is no longer a company , the main players in these styles of blanks now are P-COMPS (AUS) , KILWELL (NZ) , and SNYDERGLAS (AUS) all the mentioned makers create great blanks though by using any of the blanks in the MT series are not as good as using the blanks in the FSU series, these blanks load alot faster than the MT series and have a hell of alot of grunt in the butt section..though P-COMPS also have a small range of FSU style blanks in longer lenghts than 10' up to and including a 7177 or 177", below i have listed a few that P-comp have in there range and all the blank specs that i could find for you if you need help in working out what it all means take it into FISHFINDER and they will help you on what is your best options, happy pig hunting FSU 4120 1 PCE ALSO IN A GRAPH BUTT FSU 5120 1 PCE ALSO IN A GRAPH BUTT FSU 6120 1 PCE FSU 4144 1 PCE FSU 5144 1 PCE FSU 4162 1 PCE FSU 5162 1 PCE SU 7153 1 PCE SU 7177 1 PCE All the above blanks are P-COMPS also ask tony if there is anything new in the KILWELL stable , he can make a call and find out for you.... Thanks mate, Tony's already building me a brutal 6120 special for groper and having seen what he's done so far I cant bloody wait to get my hands on it. Dont think theres a better man for the job! SU7153 I got at the moment is perfect for fishing the wash for most fish that come along as well as casting some serious lead but might be needing something with a faster action in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizza Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Hi Tony, Those Rods look awesome I might have to venture over to your store one of these days....I'll be looking for a new 8 / 9 wrap rod to accomodate a 650C5 or 651C5 Alvey.....for noahs off the beach.. Cheers, Spizza Ps/ Been a long time! Used to come out with you quite a bit on the boat.......(Drummer Spiro ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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