Replacing A Reel Handle

[luderick -angler]

Hi all,

i was wondering if anyone out there could help with this problem.

I have Dads very early model Avon Royal, so early it has no model description on the back it is a hammertone grey in colour, one of thre black ebonite reel handles has crackd and disintergrated, i was wondering if anyone could make a set of replacement handles for the reel at a reasonable cost.

Cheers

LA

[arpie]

Hi LA

Just did an ebay search - check this out

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll...op=1&fsoo=1

May be able to get the whole thing for spares, if too many don't jump in on it! However, the handles aren't black ebony!

GOod luck!

Cheerio

Roberta

Edited August 13, 2007 by Roberta

[luderick59]

hi royce

i use an avon royal mark 2

same thing happened but my handles were corroded at the base

a mate fixed 2 new shafts and 2plastic handles

iMAKE sure there balanced to aid casting

peter

[jewgaffer]

Hi all,

i was wondering if anyone out there could help with this problem.

I have Dads very early model Avon Royal, so early it has no model description on the back it is a hammertone grey in colour, one of thre black ebonite reel handles has crackd and disintergrated, i was wondering if anyone could make a set of replacement handles for the reel at a reasonable cost.

Cheers

LA

Hi luderick -angler

I noticed a circa 70's model grice and young 4 1/4" diam Avon royal supreme on worldwide ebay from a u.k. seller.

Biddings up to gbp 22.05 (about $50) with GBP 6.00 shipping to Aust. by international airmail which is pretty good

The ebay item number is " 160145657295 " and the item has about 12 hours to run.

The reel looks pretty good in the photos and the seller says the reel is in "excellent working order and runs very freely".

I don't know if this info will help you or not

regards

jewgaffer

Edited August 13, 2007 by jewgaffer

[luderick -angler]

Thanks for the replies,

the problem with the avon royal is that the handle spindles are riveted to the face plate as are the holding pins for the handle (unlike the later ones which had screws holding the ebonite handles on) Essentially you have to drill out the handle shafts through the back face plates and replace them that way, hence the need of a tool maker to make up two new assemblies, shafts and handles! Hence a full reel is great but not really a help for the spares/ new part i require unless someone has some old grice and young spares! You used to be able to obtain spare handle assemblies in the days! The modern J W Young pins have a great assembly by way of a screw into the shafts as well as a screw holding the handle on, i have a purist 2 and it makes maitenence so easy.

Any ways hope someone can help or its off to the UK with her to be done by Garry Mills but thats the pricey way!

[arpie]

Hi LA

Sorry for the previous glitch ... fixed now!!

Check out any of the coarse fishing websites (here & UK.) That is what they were designed for, & I bet you will find someone to help you there. I know there was a bloke up here who worked on them, but I never met him. Will check with my buddies

Cheers

Roberta

What is the actual model number?

Edited August 13, 2007 by Roberta

[luderick -angler]

Roberta, there is no model number on the reel or name but it is a G&Y identical to the mk3 i beleive it is the first run of reels post war curca 1950's, i have a mate who runs the site vintagetackle and that is where i got it from, only problem to get it fixed over there the postage and repair work costs what the reel did originally.

If any one wants the history of the centrepin please ask as it has been my passion for the last 15 years and i have got into collecting the bloody things (costly) and my partner sometimes thinks i love them more than her oops............but thats fishing at least she comes out wit hme now!

Thanks for the replies all,

LA

[luderick -angler]

Roberta,

heres half of my pin collection!

[arpie]

Bewdiful!! They are a work of art, aren't they? Am awaiting the guy's name & phone no who may be able to help!

Cheers

Roberta

Is one of these the offending party??

[luderick -angler]

No thankfully they're not, i will name them for you though top row left to right, purist 2 2048, steelite 22, purist 2 2031 middle row allcocks match aerial, trudex, grice and young golden eagle bottom row, hand made match aerial type reel (unamed) allcocks aerial, the rapidex.

apart from the purist models most of these reels date from the early 60's or early 70's, allcocks were a famous brand who had most of their reel made by j w youngs in redditch, the purists are based on the original samuel allcocks aerials from the 30's and 40's, the idea of the spoked reel was to lighten the spool giving less inertia to the start up when casting light floats wallis style whilst barbel fihing the first aerials were ebonite and had walnut backs designed by henry coxon (one in a1 nick will cost you 1500 pounds sterling). The interesting fact is this is where blackfishing originates it has its roots in coarse fishing particuarly the trotting technique where floats are allowed to drift in the run with the flow pulling the line from the reel, i believe it was adapted here in the late 1800's to luderick angling and some of the very earliest angling was done around fairlight near manly a[pparently by british expats who had brought some of their gear with them. Some Australian brands were steelite (many a boys first centrepin) ajax from newcastle and the boaden (very rare highly collectible!)

Hope i did'nt bore you all with some history.

Cheers

Royce.

P.S on that guy ishe the same one that sells the avon royal copy out of pt macquarie?

[arpie]

Enjoyed reading the info on the centrepins - fly reels went the same way (with bits cut out to make them lighter!) I will look at them in a different light from here on in! I tried an older steelite, but in frustration, gave it to my brother (along with the rod!) Hopefully he will pass it on to his wife, as he has now upgraded to a newer reel & rod!

No, this is a local bloke who deals in reels! Mybuddy fishes using an ancient old wooden centrepin that is basically held together with wire & stickytape! His rod has the runners held on with bits of fishing line & he catches more fish than anyone with a $200 rod & $100 reel!

You wouldn't believe the fish he has pulled in with it .... up to 20lb flatties as well! Incredible! If you are ever up this way, I'll introduce you! He is a real character. I hope to fish more with him this summer - we have been trading 'spots & weed' recently!

Cheerio

Roberta

[luderick -angler]

There used to be an old fella that got around hickson road area a couple years ago and he was still using a battered split cane and old starback nottingham reel wit htthe most godawful looking floats (swear he chewed them with his teeth to get the shape) but the fish he caught! Me dads the same he uses some beat up reels that wobble like a friday night drunk and catches 5 to my 1 its the knowledge and the actual doing the catching you can't buy form a tackle store! I'll have to agree with you there!

[luderick59]

[hi royce

how about some photos of those fantastic floats you showed me yesterday unreal

i think all blackie fishers would like to see them

regards peter

[luderick -angler]

No worries Peter, here they are,

just to fill every one in some of these floats are over 30 years old and were passedto me by Dad, some i have made, the average time that goes into 1 float would be 18 hours from start to finish, they are made from a variety of timbers including cork, western red cedar, balsa, redwood and the most beautiful of all northern rivers red cedar.

[arpie]

hi LA

THose are Bewdiful again!! WOuldn't want to use them on the breakwall up here - more your lake fishing! Wouldn't want to lose them! A bloke lost 2 this morning & another one yesterday! Boy, He was dirty!! I was also outfishing him, so perhaps that was the other reason he wasn't concentrating!

Cheerio

Roberta