stylo Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) OK guys .. I went for a carping session at a local pond/lake and came across a person who told me that the pond/lake is 'private property'.. So here I am arguing with the idiot saying I have a fishing license, there is a no running, no diving (DOH!) BUT no 'NO FISHING' sign posted around the lake and he is not a fisheries officer so leave me the hell alone. Can someone tell me if I am in the wrong or he is just being an idiot ? Oh I caught this mother in a quick 45 minute session but it snapped off my hook before I landed her, though with the said idiot on my back, I was pondering whether to just cut my line and have a few words with him. Actual fishing report - 45-50 cm and pulled quite hard. fight lasted 2-5 minutes on 4lb. I was being pretty gentle on the fish. Is this a carp, or being a 'private lake' is this some other type of fish that I should release back into the water ? Edited September 22, 2007 by stylo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) unlucky on the landing of the fish simple if the sign does say no fishing well thats the rules but as you say it does NOT say no fishing so your okay i believe unless there are council laws Edited September 22, 2007 by johnno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) I think u just found that idiots spot x, and he doesnt want to share it with u. penguin Edited September 22, 2007 by penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drkcld Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 hahah nice work stylo i used to go fishing at canterbury for fun to fight breams etc and it didnt have any no fishing signs but some guy came out n said it was private property but i never believed him until the cops came because it was his backyard? but keep it up but of been nice fighting that fish on 4lb cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelrdoyle@gmail.com Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 OK guys .. I went for a carping session at a local pond/lake and came across a person who told me that the pond/lake is 'private property'.. Was it on private property? I thought that if it was on private property (as in fully enclosed by 1 person's property on all sides), then it was considered private (Though I believe no river/lake/Ocean in Australia can be considered private). I don't know for sure....but I would have thought this covered things like private dams on properties, private water holes, and even the gold fish pond you dug in your back yard.... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caine Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 where is this place lets have the next social there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landbased Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 where is this place lets have the next social there yes lets do that lool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_steve Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 bit off topic sorry BUT,, what do u guys usually use for bait when catching carp? guess they eat pretty much anything? steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 Wah !! This is MY new spot EX then penguin !!! It is definitely not any one persons lake as it is not surrounded by houses, but then again, it is not Parra River either ... It is a man-made lake, like most but I guess the question is whether it belongs to the local council or not ? Maybe give council a call... Any more thoughts ? (Used bread and corn as bait) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDiko Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I'd do that mate, give 'em a call just so you know you won't be in the s**t if you get caught fishing there by an authority. Good work anyway on hooking him but tough luck. Better luck next time IFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gretsch Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 (edited) Nice fish Stylo.. shame about the IDIOT.. he must be the FUN POLICE! Edited September 22, 2007 by Ceph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdu174 Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Give the IDIOT a fishing rod and tell him to enjoy life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locodave Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Was that Bella Vista? Looks like it It was me telling you it was private property!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted September 22, 2007 Author Share Posted September 22, 2007 not quite ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastspinna Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Was it on private property? I thought that if it was on private property (as in fully enclosed by 1 person's property on all sides), then it was considered private (Though I believe no river/lake/Ocean in Australia can be considered private). I don't know for sure....but I would have thought this covered things like private dams on properties, private water holes, and even the gold fish pond you dug in your back yard.... Mike not sure about this dam, but i know for sure that in a tidal estuary like sydney harbour if you are under the high tide mark, that is foreshore and hence public land..... we used to spin a bay nears watsons and i called the cops after we got hassled by rent a cops... The police informed the resident wankers... the foreshore is public land!!! carp should not even be stocked into council dams looks like birrong to me we used to get the same kind of complaints there... never stopped us though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelrdoyle@gmail.com Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 not sure about this dam, but i know for sure that in a tidal estuary like sydney harbour if you are under the high tide mark, that is foreshore and hence public land..... we used to spin a bay nears watsons and i called the cops after we got hassled by rent a cops... The police informed the resident wankers... the foreshore is public land!!! carp should not even be stocked into council dams looks like birrong to me we used to get the same kind of complaints there... never stopped us though Yeah - that basically my understanding too. All running water, tidal rivers, etc etc, are public property up to the foreshore. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelican Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 (edited) I think that barn , tractor and cattle barbed wire fence you climbedwere a dead giveaway that it was private property but you could be right??? just joking!!! There is some private lakes on some of the newer estates that collect run off and they may have private rules as they are a communal resource. A lot also have rule in the original development approvals that make all the footpaths ,parksand roads on their estate full public access. This even goes for some of the Fenced or gated style estates even with security watchhouse. 90% of residents and half the people on the board of these places conveniently forget or have never had the facts explained to them about this public access rights and the security gateman is just a observer with no more authority than any other member of the public. I wouldn't push the point unless you know exactly what the story is. Phone up and ask the local council. If you aren't sure knock on a door of a neighbouring property and ask as they will probably know and even if it is private they will probably "since you are a nice person and asked" allow you to have a fish if you are courteous and do no harm. Most councils have maps on the internet of the title nad zoneing of every parcel of land and this includes zoneing for parks and public use and recreation. A lot are PDF so you can zoom right in and coloured so it is quick to look up. Have a look or ask on the phone where to find it on their website or send them an email so you have it in writing. They should be pretty helpful However I would be surprised in these days of litigation that these ponds wouldn't be fenced in some manner to prevent drowning so they could be insured. About the only places you can get away is on government owned land and natural watercourses which of course belong to the whole community. It may be private so never get in a heated discussion or agro with someone who does the old "this is private" or no access just simply ask if they are the owner. If they aren't ask them as to what authority they are acting on. Ask them to show you a plan or title if they persist and show you the boundary you have supposably crossed. Only when you are sure of your sitiation should you ever consider involving authorities like the police or council rangers to deal with a total idiot and then always have a responsible witness as people will lie like you wouldn't believe. It's not worth being charged with trespass. let us know how you go pel Edited September 24, 2007 by pelican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 It may be private so never get in a heated discussion or agro with someone who does the old "this is private" or no access just simply ask if they are the owner. If they aren't ask them as to what authority they are acting on. Ask them to show you a plan or title if they persist and show you the boundary you have supposably crossed. That was exactly my thoughts and my exact reaction. I will ask council or even the park / development management (?) to see where the fishos stand. I can understand that he may not want 100 guys fishing in and around the pond, but if I have a right to be there then he should not be harassing me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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