stylo Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I normally use my Symetre 2500 with a 7' rod for all my plastics and my Snapper Raider has been sitting in the corner collecting dust. I was just wondering what kinda lures I can use with my snapper raider, mated with Shimano Ultegra 4000 14lb fireline 20lb leader (I only use it for bait fishing, live baiting squid etc.) I have never used the heavier jigs and plastics or poppers or metal lures before because I have had so much fun with the lighter outfit. 15-45 grams is the recommended weight of the lure but I would rather hear from Raider experiences rather than simply go off the rating for the rod. So any advise on what I can / should use would be appreciated ! Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roo Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 a mate uses his for barra. plenty of fishos use these for snapper plastics. cheers Roo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 Can you elaborate ? I am not too familiar with "snapper plastics" ? Are these just bigger sized plastics ? I am land based by the way ... Cheers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew399 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Snapper plastics are generally a style used for snapper but can catch pretty much anything. Normally they are stick baits, like sluggos, squidgy flick baits, or bigger gulp minnows and jerk shads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 Just had a look online .. the jerk shads look a lot like the squidgy flick baits ... How much bigger should I use as a guide ? I have lots of flick baits in the 80-100 mm size ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew399 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 yeah i agree, i think starlo and bushy might have done a fair bit of copying when coming up with their flick baits!! however i think the flick baits are designed with much more science. If you watched the squidgy secret videos you'd know what i mean... they operate more on water drag and the way the tail is engineered gives it a very good wounded bait fish action... As for sizes, it really depends on what your going to be targeting. I believe for snapper most people use 6inch - 9 inch size lures, I have read in an article that they are also deadly on big flathead, and I see know reason you couldnt entice a jew with these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted October 24, 2007 Author Share Posted October 24, 2007 Guess what .. I pulled out Squidgy Secrets Part 1 2 and 3 last night and re-watched them .. HAHA They all seem to use very light weight outfits all in the 1500-2000 size (which is my other dedicated SP outfit) .. and only really use the stronger gear when targeting barra up north or when they were targeting big pelagics out on blue water, in which case they were using overhead outfits, which I won't be doing anytime soon. I will try the: * 9 gram jig heads with the 130mm+ fish/shad style (to sink) * weedless hook with 150mm+ fish/shad style (fish more on the surface) --------- What about metal lures and poppers ? If I am targeting pelagics like the tailor, trev, kings etc. Any particular brands and sizes to try out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti-Carp Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Hey Les, Your talking more abouts landbased spinning and for your kind of tackle really the more feasible options are flatties, jewies and kingies. You'd be looking at fishing retaining walls, rockwalls and wharves around the harbour been Sydney based. Jighead wise try to keep your jigheads as light as possible 9 grams in my opinion is a bit to heavy if your fishing land based. Personally I like the TT jigheads that have the weight towards the middle of the jighead as it allows the lure to sink horizontally. (Very similar in theory to the Nitro Torpedo jigheads unfortunately you don't get them in the 2/0 plus sizes...) Lure wise your looking at 4 to 6 inch lures shad type lures. The ones mentioned like the jerkshad, gulp 4 inch minnows, larger bass minnows etc are ideal. As far as metals go you can't go any thing with in your rod casting range should be fine. With metal lures I've never found one better then the other its more about matching the size of your lure to what the fish are feeding on. Hope this help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davester28 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Hey Les, Your talking more abouts landbased spinning and for your kind of tackle really the more feasible options are flatties, jewies and kingies. You'd be looking at fishing retaining walls, rockwalls and wharves around the harbour been Sydney based. Jighead wise try to keep your jigheads as light as possible 9 grams in my opinion is a bit to heavy if your fishing land based. Personally I like the TT jigheads that have the weight towards the middle of the jighead as it allows the lure to sink horizontally. (Very similar in theory to the Nitro Torpedo jigheads unfortunately you don't get them in the 2/0 plus sizes...) Lure wise your looking at 4 to 6 inch lures shad type lures. The ones mentioned like the jerkshad, gulp 4 inch minnows, larger bass minnows etc are ideal. As far as metals go you can't go any thing with in your rod casting range should be fine. With metal lures I've never found one better then the other its more about matching the size of your lure to what the fish are feeding on. Hope this help Anti-Carp has a lot of good advice. However, IMHO 9 grams is fine if you have deep water close to your feet. Lots of places in Middle Harbour and even the main harbour have water 15m+ deep well within casting distance. 9g is not a lot of weight in these situations. As for the rod, I'm not exactly sure what the cast weight rating really is. On the rod itself it says 15 - 45g, but if you have a look at the Shimano catalogues and website, it says 12 - 28g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stylo Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 The rod states 15-45grams on the blank - confirmed. Though I guess it really a matter of trial and error isn't it ? As long as I stay within those lure weight limits, I think it should be OK. ------ What about poppers for my lighter 2-4 kg outfit ? Been reading a little bit about them and I want to be armed with some knowledge before I go into the tackle store .. like what brands to go for, what colours, size etc. Would be nice to have one or two poppers to alternate with my SP's .. Target would probably be bream, whiting etc. Thanks guys, you have been really helpful. Don't think the rain is going to stop me from going out for a fish this weekend !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastspinna Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 idbe using the raider to chase larger flattys, and pelagic action with 7,15, 25 gram metal lures... anti carp is spot on...you can catch bonito, frigates, salmon and tailor on this gear if you can spin with relatively deep water at you feet , breakwalls are prime... as for poppers if you were confused last year wait til this summer from what i saw yesterday almost all lure manufacturers have some on offer... i think action will prove more important than price...that and fishing them in the right places at the right time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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