TobyW Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 HI All, I’m Fairly new to this and on a bit of a learning curve so forgive me if this is a stupid question/s.. When the wind picks up I find it a good opportunity to Get the tackle out and reorganize/ tie some rigs in prep. My questions are: What are the advantages of tying doubles on your rig apart from added strength? When should they be used? How long should the ”double/Loop” be? How long should the leader be on the end the double be? And what is a recommended knot to use to attach? Where should a swivel be if needed and knot type? Braid: Are there certain knots that are better for braid/ or not be used? At the moment I am mainly trying to target Kings around Harbour, I have 2 x Rigs One with 30pd Braid and one with 15pd Mono. I am using 80pd trace. I’m Plaiting the double at the moment as I have just learned this.. I understand a Bimini is quicker but is that the only advantage?? (I prefer to start with harder knot and work my way back for some stupid reason!) Whilst I have been using fairly simple rigs of late with success (Swivel and leader), this is more an exercise to try and further my knowledge for later down the track when I may need up the anti down the business end of the rig.. Oh, and my Final question: Why is it impossible to go to a tackle store and only buy what you went there for???? My last trip for some sinkers cost me $$160 !!!!! OK, enough questions, bring on your wealth of knowledge raiders Thanks Heaps Toby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondo Rock Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Advantage of doubles: - decrease the likelihood of being done over when the fish is at the side of the boat due to line breaking - enable the use of certain superior knots When should doubles be used: - they're really only necessary when chasing gamefish or barra - big hard fighting fish that can go utterly beserk next to the boat (I suppose kingies are probably up there too), but due to the knot options they provide many people (like me) tie them on every rig. How long should the ”double/Loop” be: - When using the double for added strength, as long as you can tie it - at least as long as the rod. When using the double only to enable certain knots then it doesn't matter how long you tie it. How long should the leader be on the end the double be? - Depends on the target species, but for kingies I'd want a minimum of 2 metres Recommended knot? - Albright, double uni or there's an even better one that I use whose name I've forgotten - I'm sure someone else here will remember. Where should a swivel be if needed and knot type? - tied to the end of the leader. Ordinary knot since you'll be tying it to mono. Are there certain knots that are better for braid/ or not be used? - Yup. You need to buy a book of knots to really understand (Geoff Wilson's is good) but the rule of thumb is that braid requires double the number of twists as mono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inhlanzi Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hey Tobyb My questions are: What are the advantages of tying doubles on your rig apart from added strength? Lets you attach a swivel with a catspaw knot Lets you have better control of the fish near the boat When you run the sinker swivel down to the terminal swivel you have double strength ( ie sinker swivel will do some damage to the main line thus better to double up ) Lets you pre rig your rods and if you bump the rod tip against something the line is much stronger When should they be used? Trolling Sinker Knot Cut baiting Spoons Poppers Jigs any time you feel the knot will not hold up as it should. It's like fishing insurance How long should the ”double/Loop” be? 6 inches to 2m depends on the circumstance How long should the leader be on the end the double be? 50cm to 2 m again depending on many factors And what is a recommended knot to use to attach? To a swivel - catspaw To mono - allbright or uni Where should a swivel be if needed and knot type? At the end of the double - catspaw Braid: Are there certain knots that are better for braid/ or not be used? Yes Learn the Bimini it is a fantastic knot. Oh, and my Final question: Why is it impossible to go to a tackle store and only buy what you went there for???? My last trip for some sinkers cost me $$160 !!!!! Don't worry go there to buy nothing and still spend heaps - cheers inhlanzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyW Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hey Mondo and inhlanzi, Thanks for your responses.. Now, off to learn me some more knots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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