arpie Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hi guys Went fishing off the rocks with my neighbour yesterday - we'd scouted a few areas before deciding to try our usual spot & tramped the rocks to get there. First toss & Gordon was onto a nice silver sea-run blackie of 30cm. Shortly after his rod buckles but the fish wasn't hooked! I was only getting nibbles at this point in time. His next fish was a beautie, but as he reefed it up the rocks, the blackie (probably about 40cm) fell of, back into the water! Self released, you might say. I was getting a bit anxious by now - still only having nibbles! I know he uses lighter line than I - perhaps that is the secret? Then WHACK! My rod buckles & a fish is on! Tightening up the line & lifting the rod, but not sufficiently to turn it's head, the fish makes a bee-line to the back of the rocks & gets off! Amazing strength! The water had cleared as it took off & I could see it as it belted it's way towards freedom! Nice fish! Perhaps it was the resident drummer that Sails had also hooked the other week .... before it straightened his hook?? We both caught some butterbream, which Gordon kept as 'cat fish' and we eventually headed back to the beach. I tried one of Cam's spots & hooked a nice blackie & apart from some wirra & toadies, that was it! Exciting for the moment that the drummer was on - and fun being out there trying for them! Till next time.... cheerio Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Then WHACK! My rod buckles & a fish is on! the fish makes a bee-line to the back of the rocks & gets off! Amazing strength! Perhaps it was the resident drummer that Sails had also hooked the other week .... before it straightened his hook?? Till next time.... cheerio Roberta Roberta By the sound of it it's time to get the chicken gut and the big gear out you never know what else you'll hook up with that stuff down there. That'll leave the greenies hungry till next time ay Cheers Byron jewgaffer That chicken shop opposite Sails on the bi pass is the go. Clem's his name, he's a big fat bloke, he'll give you fresh chicken gut I don't think he eats the guts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Thanks for that Byron - probably smell better than cunje too!! Tides are getting shallower now & more sand building up again in the gutters to make it even worse! Can't wait for another 'big blow' to bring the blackies back on again! Cheerio Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderick59 Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 hi roberta what rig are you using in the gutters and have you tried cabbage? [not as smelly] ascunji have you tried the flat sheet lead [just enough to cast with yet]for that type of fishing i use 12ft whippy blackie rod 6or8lb line flat lead running to a swivel 45cm vanish 6lb [best leader line ever made for blackfishing] to a no6or8 hook allways try to keep bait moving so it looks natural a lot of winding in and casting into said gutter not much you can do when drummer hit but the flexy rod gives you a little chance of landing it [very little] your spot sounds similar to where i fish so i would like to compare rods and rigs and reels love this way of catching them peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hi Peter I don't think most fok have tried cabbage there yet ...... not that that is a reason not to try it!! You sort of 'go with the flow'! I will try it next time! I have been using 17lb, so quite a bit heavier than what you suggest ..... I have plenty of 6lb vanish, so no worries there! I have noticed that (with the cunje) even the pea sinker floats near the top of the water ....... tried bigger sinker with no joy ..... time will tell Cheerio Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastspinna Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 bad luck on the drummer... i am going down this arvo for a drummer/squid sesh i use bread pretty much exclusively unless my mate is braining them on peeled prawns and then i will chuck a few around...bread just seems to waft around nicely with only a little weight, and one bite usually tells you its time to rebait (like nippers)... i too try and constantly keep my bait in motion i only use cunji now on my more exposed and gnarly washes with a bit more weight..its a balancing act keep that rod working ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hey Peter Tried the cabbage & sheet lead down the beach yesterday, but it just gets washed around in the pounding sea - our rocks are totally different from yours at Mona Vale. We don't really have the rock ledges as such - more vertical cliffs that the sea just belts into! I tried a couple of smaller 'rock gutters' nearby, with no luck either. Probably need more practise. Do you prefer the big 'full moon' tides & the top of the tide? We are heading to small tides just now - even the highs are low! Cheerio Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderick59 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 hi roberta any rising tide is good is there any weed growth on rocks where you fished? try and get a sideways wash and cast up into it maintaining feel on your sinker let it wash past you until it washes ashore repeat this until you hook one they love a moving peice of cabbage , weed or cunji i have caught them in 1ft of water fishing this way caught 2 big bream this morn on chick thigh mate lost 1 big drummer tried some little gulps [pumkinseed] the kelpies loved them peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpie Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Hi Peter Funny you mentioned weed ..... normally we have cabbage growing on the rocks, but we had so much sand put on the beaches & rocks last year that most of it was smothered & killed off! After Xmas, we had the big seas that took most of the sand away, exposing the rocks again, but instead of cabbage growing back, it is fine weed! No real length to it yet, but if you rub 2 bits together you get a 'bait' length! I have had bites on it up the lake, so that bodes well for the future! Will start stockpiling it for winter soon! We are normally fishing here from the top of the rocks down into the water - up to a 10-20ft + difference in height & you have to reef your fish up on a locked drag whilst avoiding the waves crashing into the bottom of the rocks. I have lost count of the number of times I have copped a wave in the face & been saturated from head to toe! There is only one 'ledge area' but even on the highest tide, it is never really fully covered with water & it is by then too dangerous to stand in it to fish the gutter anyway!! (One day, when you come up, I'll show the spots to you & you'll understand!!) We need it washy/rough but not too washy or the blackies just aren't there! Haven't tried at night time, but had noticed the cabbage well & truly chewed a few years ago when it was plentiful! Hence normally fished after rough weather, till it settles down to calm again. We were soooo lucky it was 'just right' when Cam & Neil were up! Well done on the bream! Always a good fight & feed! Shame your buddy lost the drummer. Cheerio Roberta Edited January 30, 2008 by Roberta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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