chewsta Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi guys, Im currently running a 2004, 90hp Johnson two stroke and was wondering what the best solution to reducing fumes would be? would a top of the line Oil such as the XD-100 make much of a difference to reduction of fumes? Is there another additive that can posibly be added into the fuel? Can anyone suggest anything else? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou Allen (chewsta) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi Allen, run XD-100 and not only will the smoke be improved greatly it is the best oil to use in terms of engine longivetiy also. I have not seen a product that can be added to the oil that will help it burn cleaner and even if there is the cost of it would make it more cost effective to just buy XD-100. Do yourself a favour and drain the oil you are using now, put in XD-100 oil, give it a 10 minute run and you will be amazed at the results. This of course is taking inot account that your fuel system do not have a loose connection causing the OMS to overoil. Try the oil and let us know what you think, Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewsta Posted March 25, 2008 Author Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thanks Huey, I was hoping that you would see this post. I'll give it a go and will definitely let you know the results. Cheers mate. Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesie Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Huey, would this oil make a difference on an Evinrude 150 Intruder as well? I'm currently running the BP Hi-Tide 2-stroke oil and find it very fumey at times Cheers Holmesie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi Holmsie, yes any brand, any HP of oil injected 2-Stroke will benefit from running XD-100. With the HP you have I would not use what you have been, it will be a mineral based oil that only meets TCW-3 rating and that is it. XD-100 is a full synethic oil with a special formula that makes it burn cleaner and produce less smoke. Again make sure your fuel lines are nice and tight which does not allow the engine to suck air and therefore over oil. Just as with Allen, drain the oil from the tank, while you are there replace the oil filter in the pick-up of the oil tank and fill with XD-100 and your engine will love you for it and your smoking will be greatly reduced. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methodman Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 How about buying a 4-stroke you stinge or lose the misses. Doing both will save you on oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi, yes you will not have to buy 2-Stroke oil, but you still need to buy and replace the crankcase oil every 6 months or 50 hours if you want the engine to survive. Better yet buy an E-TEC and spend about the same on oil as a 4-Stroke but still get all the performance you are use to and have an engine that ticks every box and is proven to be the cheapest to own and operate. I think it is best not to go here though and if any one has an oil injected engine buy the best oil for it and that is XD-100 and if you have a 4-Stroke the same applies , buy the best oil for it and change the oil and the filter regularly and that way you give the engines (no matter brand and number of strokes) the best chance of lasting a long time. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 (edited) Huey Could you advise the cost of 4lt of XD-100 Tks Geoff Edited March 25, 2008 by Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi Geoff, a gallon bottle is $60 with refills from our 55G drum costing $50. The cheapest 2-Stroke oil I have seen around the traps is about $40 for a generic brand so yes it is quite dear, but trust me once you see no smoke the extra money spent is worth it in my opinion and it is good to know you are giving the outboard the best chance for a long happy life. Cheaper mineral based oils can produce alot of carbon once burnt which can lead to stuck piston rings and engine failure, so again the extra dollars spent now can save an expensive rebuild down the track. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesie Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Thanks Huey, given my motor has probably had cheaper oil for it's whole life, is there any chance I'll have problems by switching to XD100 or will it all be good (noting what you said about draining the old oil first) Cheers Holmesie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiViC Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 sorry to jump in, but just wanted to clarify; huey, you mention that it will reduce smoke, but will it reduce the the odour/smell? my merc hardly smokes on yamalube, but there is a oil/fuel mix smell. will xd100 help to alleviate this? thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWANNABROCK Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Is it any good for premix engine's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 Hi Guys, the best thing to do Holmsie is switch to XD-100 ASAP and you really should power tune your engine, which is a product that you spray into the carbies while the engine is running and it chemically cleans ring grooves of carbon build-up. Then switch to XD-100, which does not have the problem of carbon build-up and you will be right to go. Also make sure with your engine is running the QL78YC plugs. CiViC, yes the XD-100 is an odourless mixture also, so a big improvement over what you have been running. Jewy, with pre-mix engines we recommend the XD-50 oil, which is a good oil semi sythetic oil and suitable for smaller pre-mix engines. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWANNABROCK Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Thanks huey, do you sell that in bulk as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Hi Jewy, we do not have a 55G drum of it, but a Gallon bottle of XD-50 is $50 while you can get a 5G bottle for $200. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWANNABROCK Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 How many litre's to the gallon? sorry i am from the metric school day's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Hi Jewy, I am also from the Metric system, but being a US product it is in gallons. 1 Gallon equals 3.785L while the 5G drum is 18.95L. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasty Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Huey, you mentioned somewhere that when switching to XD-100 you should change the oil filter. Pardon my ignorance but where is it, in the oil tank or in the engine. Also are oil filters generic or are there different kinds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Hi Lasty, on Johnson/Evinrude oil injected engines there is a gauze filter at the bottle of the oil pick-up in the oil tank. What I would do is when draining the old oil, I would replace the filter at the same time as preventative maintance. The filter is a genuie BRP part and is about $20. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason baker Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 So the consensus is Evinrude xd 100 is the best 2 stroke oil going around? Does the engine need to be tuned differently to use it? Sounds like the engine need to use less of this oil compared to others so needs to be adjusted accordingly? Have a V4 140 yamaha, planning to switch to the xd, drain the old oil and do all the stuff mentioned, it also due for a service so are there any adjustments i should get them to make? Cheers, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Hi Jason, with your engine there is nothing you can do in way of adjustment. Do as you mention and just drain the old oil and fill with XD-100 and you will see an improvement after about 10 minutes of running in terms of the amount of smoke it blows. As with any engine of any technology make sure the engine is reaching proper operating temp especially at idle and you are running the correct plugs for you engine. Only the E-TEC has the ability,via a laptop, of reducing oil consumpiton when an owner chooses to run it on XD-100 when compared to the factory TCW-3 setting. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason baker Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Thanks Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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