Pike

[robeebee]

is there a size limit on these things ?

any good as a live bait ?

[Bruce the Postie]

No size limit, Fantastic live bait for Kings and Jews !!!!!

Bruce

[robeebee]

thats a relief

put one out last week pinned through the nose and something chomped it in one go

to just behind the hook

bugger

[robeebee]

we were near Moll pt

[Jake]

Sounds like it could have beeen a tailor. They seem to have a habit of bitting either side of the hook.

[jewgaffer]

Robbie I found there's a better chance of a hook up a long time ago by having two hooks on the bigger bait rigs and as Chris CFD said cuttlefish attack to kill first in the neck area behind the head.

Cheers

jewgaffer

[Jake]

Robbie I found there's a better chance of a hook up a long time ago by having two hooks on the bigger bait rigs and as Chris CFD said cuttlefish attack to kill first in the neck area behind the head.

Cheers

jewgaffer

Hi Jewgaffer,

Would you use a treble or a single stinger hook for a live pike bait?

[jewgaffer]

Hi Jewgaffer,

Would you use a treble or a single stinger hook for a live pike bait?

Hi Plastic Man. I always use two hooks on my rigs for jew and other predators. I use a single for the lower/lowest hook, pinning it behind the neck or in the sinue under the dorsal fin according to the live bait species I'm using.

I should add that using two hooks, as well as making the hook up rate better, provides for a method for keeping the line and the shank of lower/lowest hook, which is always the neck or dorsal hook, down flat against the bait fish so that the line and the shank are not upright and will not get in the way of a head take.

This to my mind is a very important part of jew fishing etc being in relation to the right bait set up for the best hook up rate.

I don't use any rigging method that causes the hook shank, and the line to be straight up and down , especialy when using one hook only and that one hook becomes the control hook or the action hook if you like.

Having the shank held down, the roll over of the hook in an upwards stand out position, and the barb always facing the tail is the right way. And avoids a head taker such as a jewfish, only making contact with the roll over around the shank and will often cause a mouthed bait to be pulled away from the fish under pressure with no hook up because of no contact with the barb resulting in the no hook up , or the "jew spit out" if the barb faces the rod tip, with a worse result on a circle hook on a hollow cavity mouthed fish such as a jewfish and to add to that fact, a circle hook has its barbed turned well inwards as well. Mind you circle hooks apparently work well for what they were designed for.

I may well use a trebble as the control hook on a live bait with one hook of the three pinned in the ginger to go easier on the fish. Maybe a fish let's out more signals like a human would with a trebble hook firmly stuck in that position. A little humour in this description, but it is often used and worth a thought.

This position also avoids the chance of the trebble hook, which becomes the contol hook by my two hook method mentioned previously, catching over the line during the cast, or whilst adjusting the position by moving the livie in or letting it go further out. Moving a livie when there has been no action for a while, and you can still feel the livie kicking at the rod tip, is far better for the longevity of the livie rather than retreiving the livie and casting it out again.

I think a trebble stinger placed a little closer to the bottom hook of the rig would do well on longer pike and garfish as well.

Cheers

jewgaffer

[Jake]

Hi Plastic Man. I always use two hooks on my rigs for jew and other predators. I use a single for the lower/lowest hook, pinning it behind the neck or in the sinue under the dorsal fin according to the live bait species I'm using.

I should add that using two hooks, as well as making the hook up rate better, provides for a method for keeping the line and the shank of lower/lowest hook, which is always the neck or dorsal hook, down flat against the bait fish so that the line and the shank are not upright and will not get in the way of a head take.

This to my mind is a very important part of jew fishing etc being in relation to the right bait set up for the best hook up rate.

I don't use any rigging method that causes the hook shank, and the line to be straight up and down , especialy when using one hook only and that one hook becomes the control hook or the action hook if you like.

Having the shank held down, the roll over of the hook in an upwards stand out position, and the barb always facing the tail is the right way. And avoids a head taker such as a jewfish, only making contact with the roll over around the shank and will often cause a mouthed bait to be pulled away from the fish under pressure with no hook up because of no contact with the barb resulting in the no hook up , or the "jew spit out" if the barb faces the rod tip, with a worse result on a circle hook on a hollow cavity mouthed fish such as a jewfish and to add to that fact, a circle hook has its barbed turned well inwards as well. Mind you circle hooks apparently work well for what they were designed for.

I may well use a trebble as the control hook on a live bait with one hook of the three pinned in the ginger to go easier on the fish. Maybe a fish let's out more signals like a human would with a trebble hook firmly stuck in that position. A little humour in this description, but it is often used and worth a thought.

This position also avoids the chance of the trebble hook, which becomes the contol hook by my two hook method mentioned previously, catching over the line during the cast, or whilst adjusting the position by moving the livie in or letting it go further out. Moving a livie when there has been no action for a while, and you can still feel the livie kicking at the rod tip, is far better for the longevity of the livie rather than retreiving the livie and casting it out again.

I think a trebble stinger placed a little closer to the bottom hook of the rig would do well on longer pike and garfish as well.

Cheers

jewgaffer

That's great advice!! I'll put it to practice. Thanks Jewgaffer!