Float Stoppers, Long Leader

[trungie]

When fishing with a float i find that i'd like a long leader from the float to my hook below.

I've read this can be achieved with using a thin plastic tube available at tackle stores.

How do i use them? Are there any online resources?

Diagram:

							 how do i put a stopper here?
									   |
-------------------------------------------(=>-----------------------------------------o
main line   							float		   3m	 			  hook & bait

Edited May 24, 2008 by xman

[roosterman]

hi xman,

you can get these little rubber stoppers about 10 in a pack and are really cheap $1 - $2 at most tacle stores..

the beads are on a wire loop and you thread your mainline through and pull bead onto it..always wet line so you dont damage it .......

hope this helps...

cheers...steve......

[trungie]

hi xman,

you can get these little rubber stoppers about 10 in a pack and are really cheap $1 - $2 at most tacle stores..

the beads are on a wire loop and you thread your mainline through and pull bead onto it..always wet line so you dont damage it .......

hope this helps...

cheers...steve......

I have never seen rubber stoppers at the tackle store before. And im having quite alot of difficulty finding an example online. What do these look like?

I am familiar with plastic float stoppers. Where you have a small plastic tube and a wedge. Are these the same? Or similar?

About the beads. How do they stay in place? What are they used for?

[Guest]

Here they are for your enjoyment

[Kit]

I think the problem with those stoppers is that they don't move, so if you're running a 3m trace, you won't be able to cast.

What I usually do, although I do it with a running sinker rather than a float, is to join the leader to the mainline with an Albright or Uni to Uni knot.

I then put a small (running) bead onto the trace, then the running sinker (or in your case, the float), then the hook.

When wound up, the bead and float will slide down so that it will be short enough to cast. When in the water, the bead will stop the float from going any higher.

The bead must have a small hole so that it will be stopped by the knot; the albright will be small enough so that you can cast without a problem.

here is a dodgy diagram of it:

======================xxxx-----------------------------------O----------------[++++]-------------------------?

main line	   Albright -mainline to leader				Bead			  float						 sinker/swivel/hook

Hope this helps.

Edited May 25, 2008 by Kit

[Guest]

I think the problem with those stoppers is that they don't move, so if you're running a 3m trace, you won't be able to cast.

What I usually do, although I do it with a running sinker rather than a float, is to join the leader to the mainline with an Albright or Uni to Uni knot.

I then put a small (running) bead onto the trace, then the running sinker (or in your case, the float), then the hook.

When wound up, the bead and float will slide down so that it will be short enough to cast. When in the water, the bead will stop the float from going any higher.

The bead must have a small hole so that it will be stopped by the knot; the albright will be small enough so that you can cast without a problem.

here is a dodgy diagram of it:

======================xxxx-----------------------------------O----------------[++++]-------------------------?

main line	   Albright -mainline to leader				Bead			  float						 sinker/swivel/hook

Hope this helps.

They move just fine Chris with a little bit of a push you can set your gear to any depth and they are small enough to go through the guides and being made of rubber there is no damage to your guides.

Cheers Stewy

[Kit]

They move just fine Chris with a little bit of a push you can set your gear to any depth and they are small enough to go through the guides and being made of rubber there is no damage to your guides.

Cheers Stewy

oh... I've never actually used them before. Looks like I might need to give them a go

Is there any problems with casting, or if you're running a really long leader winding them onto the spool?

Edited May 25, 2008 by Kit

[Guest]

oh... I've never actually used them before. Looks like I might need to give them a go

Is there any problems with casting, or if you're running a really long leader winding them onto the spool?

No problems at all and why would you use a leader any longer than 3 feet

its just a waste and the weed will run away in the current and look suspicious,short leader of 2 foot is heaps.

[trungie]

No problems at all and why would you use a leader any longer than 3 feet

its just a waste and the weed will run away in the current and look suspicious,short leader of 2 foot is heaps.

Thanks for the pic! I've seen them at the store before. Much appreciated.

As with leaders longer than 3 feet. I just thought some of the larger fish might not come closer to the surface as readily. So a longer leader might provide bait at a slightly lower depth for a hit. But then again, what do i know lol. thought i'd give it a try.

Any thoughts?

[Kit]

No problems at all and why would you use a leader any longer than 3 feet

its just a waste and the weed will run away in the current and look suspicious,short leader of 2 foot is heaps.

I've seen fishermen on the rocks suspend their baits a few metres under their floats... normally with big slab baits that they cast out quite far. Dunno what they're targetting and whether its effective though.

I like to have about 5m of mono as shock leader on some of my braid setups .. just to give it a bit of stretch when I'm fishing big baits. Thats when I use the running bead because I don't want my sinker running over the joining knot as sometimes it has problems coming back down.

So I'm really using it to stop a running sinker rather than a float.

[gretsch]

Xman and Kit,

I use those stoppers exclusively and I fish from 6 feet to 30 feet under the float depending on the territory. Believe it not, those little rubber stoppers often end up on the spool of my reel when I am fishing deeper than about 15 feet (rod is nine feet long). I can cast the rig without any difficulties. The stopper just peels off and slips through the runners. Only on occasion will the stropepr impede a cast and even then, it is only a minor impedement.

Swordy s right. You don't need a massively long leader. I average around 3-4 feet.

Edited May 26, 2008 by Ceph