Wire Trace Or Heavier Mono-line

[Rexxy]

hey guys,

just a quick question reagrding setup for night fishing for tailor, i have most of the gear required, but am curious if what setup to stick with. I was originally setting up with a Float stopping swivel down 30cm so to a running sinker, with a 2nd swivel attached to a trace onto 3/0 gang hooks...using pillies...

but i have noticed and been told by a few avid fishos (who catch way more than I), that it would be better to remove the trace, and use another 30-50cm length of mono, as the trace can turn the fish away from the bait....

i have started trying this out, but am using a heavier line to replace the trace......my reel is spooled with 14lb mono, and the last section (trace section) i was using a 20lb mono....

is this the right way to go, or should i just use the same line as i have spooled ?

[slinkymalinky]

G'day Rexxy,

20lb should be ok if you're using ganged hooks. Mostly they chop the bait in half so get hooked up without ever touching the line. I'd probably start with 40lb though and if you don't get any action switch to the lighter leader in case it's making the fish shy away.

If you do find you're getting bitten off (as will sometimes happen if the tailor are bigger) you've got no option other than wire really. Use light single strand (20-30lb) rather than heat-weld or 7 strand though... it's much finer and less visible... works a treat on fussy spotted mackerel.

Cheers, Slinky

[Rexxy]

i just spent a hour hours last night pre gearing my tackle and will see how they all go, i have done a few different setup, but all similar in setup for night time tailor...

1. swivel to swivel with 30cm 20lb mono, with running float and sinker in this line, then a 15cm 30lb black wire trace to 3 3/0 gangs

2. swivel to swivel with 30cm 20lb mono, with running float and sinker in this line, then 30cm 20lb mono to 3 x 3/0 gangs

3. swivel to Snap swivel with 45cm 20lb mono with running float on this line, with star Sinker to bottom Snap swivel...then 30cm 20lb mono to 3 2/0 gangs

4. swivel to swivel with 30cm 20lb mono, with running float and sinker in this line, then 45cm black wire trace to 3 x 4/0 gangs

All the same, just differing lengths, trace changes, sinker swap and how hooks connected....

I also have a few Surf Rig setups, which are basically Pasternoster rigs, a few from 30lb line, and 2 that are wire setups to connect hooks and sinker too, might try them out......

once i get my casting worked out, i shall be a happier amatuer fisherman.....or at least a content fish feeder...

[noisy]

rexxy....every body has there own ideas..i am now packin the gear to head up to south west rocks ..my rig.i use 20lb mono and i make my own traces about 6 inches long and lead size depends on the day..but i agree tailor will hook themselves on the last 2 hooks of a three gang hook system...the trace is a little extra strength against the rocks...and only use black swivels as tailor will chase chrome ones...want any more info just pm me......bob

[Rexxy]

thankfully my traces are all black and most of my swivels.....thanks for the responses guys, just 24hr before i get to go feed the fish, and maybe bring a few home......

almost forgot, i threw a small red bead onto 2 of the setups to see how it affects the fish, as a lot of people seem to be moving to using the red bead attracters......maybe helps at night as they may reflect small glints like the eyes of the bait....

Edited May 30, 2008 by Rexxy