Tuna Gear Help

[Mik]

Righto you lot, I need to unwreck my head so if I sound a little phased at the moment its not because of my usual incapacity for logical thought, its because I'm dumb.

Now that we have established the cause, please please please can you help with the remedy.

I have 2 beautiful, shinny new Tyrnos 30 which I would like to bash, overheat & abuse on a few of the very enticing looking tuna all you city mob have been raving about for the past weeks whilst I sit here in outback NSW drooling & wishing. I have a little adventure arranged with the Hunter guys which basically entails both their boats & my little tinnie tagging along behind. We have 4 anglers in my boat & I have two setups as follws (Plus a few extras but its these little fellas I wanna talk about)

2 x Tyrno 30 reels

2 X Shimano Backbone elite 24Kg rods

2000 metres of 50lb Platypus Braid

1500 metres of 50 Platypus mono

I have done a little experiement with both line & discovered that I can fit about 500 metres of the mono on the reels. Or I can fit about 800 metres of the braid on the reels.

Now, the question.

I read a report recently that advised that braid should not be used for the "Cutoff" factor against other braid if youre in the fortunate position of multiple hookups. I see the sense in this but I wonder is it really an issue that needs serious consideration or do you just take a little more care with your crossed lines etc.

Now I love braid, I have heaps of it & use mono pretty much for leaders only now. But am I being ignorant in my neglect of the mono advantange or should I just say "What the heck" and squeeze as much line as I can on these virgin reels.

So, the guts of it is: Do I sacrifice the capacity & go with mono reliability in tight quaters on a small boat or do I be more careful & go with the braid?

If you feel the mono I ok, will 500 metres be enough? Or are we gonna get spooled by these bullets of the blue?

PS - feel free to brag about your tuna sessions here if you wish, yours will be the first post I ask the mods to delete

[moses]

id go mono mate last thing u want is loosing one fish and damaging the line on the other.just use more drag. 500 hundred should be plenty mate.just so long u dont hook a nice 50 -60 kg freight train there hard enough to stop on my tld50 with 800m

[lighthouse2k]

I am pretty sure that will be fine. Go the mono.

Edited July 1, 2008 by lighthouse2k

[Guest]

Hi ya Mick ,if you are going to get serious about the gamefishing scene ??? Its time to get yourself a couple of tld 50 s or a couple of Tiagras and dont mess around with the smaller reels as the dissapointment will never make up for your lost fish.

Big fish demand top quality tackle and the money you are spending gettin to and from Sydney will be wasted if that Tuna or Marlin of a lifetime comes along and you are undergunned.

The rods are fine and will work a treat,GET SOME BIG GAME REELS for the job and fill em with top quality mono ,not braid I witnessed a double hookup on braid and one popped as soon as it touched the other

Cheers Stewy

[Mik]

Hey guys

Thanks for the quick replys so far.

Stewie, mate as my bank manager will already tell ya, I have no hesitation in melting the plastic on the odd occasion for the sake of a hint of any kind of fin. I already have a Tiagra50W & plan to add another to the groaning gear cupboard very soon (Read, as soon as the plastic stops smoking from my last little venture into a tackle shop!) But I haven't even turned these reels in anger yet & they look so sweet & new & all, I just gotta get them wet beofre I bust!

All I need to do now is get to the fecking water!!!!

[Guest]

Hey guys

Thanks for the quick replys so far.

Stewie, mate as my bank manager will already tell ya, I have no hesitation in melting the plastic on the odd occasion for the sake of a hint of any kind of fin. I already have a Tiagra50W & plan to add another to the groaning gear cupboard very soon (Read, as soon as the plastic stops smoking from my last little venture into a tackle shop!) But I haven't even turned these reels in anger yet & they look so sweet & new & all, I just gotta get them wet beofre I bust!

All I need to do now is get to the fecking water!!!!

If you already have one ,then add one more and you are in business.

Set the other two reels up with 50lb mono and if a smaller class of fin show up in your cube trail then by all means give them a run.

If you are prospecting and just starting up use the big gear as you just never know.

Two people cubing at once out of a small boat is plenty and if you get a dble hookup there are at least two other to gaff and help the other two who are hooked up.

Cheers Stewy

[Le Pasha]

Gday mate, ideally you should be filling those reels with some 15kg then line capacity wont be an issue. Second thing is that 500m should definately be enough, youll be really unlucky if a fin pulls 500m on its first run, even the bigger ones. If capacity is still a worry for you what you can do is spool up 700m of braid and then topshot it with about 50m of mono, you will still have the stretch in your line at the end of the fight but you will also have that extra capacity, just make sure you use some gloves when laying the line on your spool. Albright the braid to your mono top shot and your set (just be wary that your albright fits through those backbone roller tips.....they're small).

Dan

[roosterman]

mick ive just spooled up a new weapon also...

the 2 speed tyrnos 30....

after some research i went 50lb mono and will be able to push it to 33lb of drag from that sucker which from what i am told is enough to stop em or pull you overboard unless its a big motha...

in that case there is always the ability to chase it and we can only dream of this to hapen eh......

go mono and save the hassles of braid... think about those blistering runs with braid running and trying to guide onto reel and no stretch an hooks pulling (topshot of mono helps here) ..

anyway these are some of the things i took into consideration....

in saying this i am very much a newbie at this with only one fin from one trip last year

good luck out there mick...

cheers...steve......

[Mik]

Thanks for the great info & advice guys. As the concensus here seems to be mono I have my question answered.

Steve, you're still one fin up on me mate!

Dan, I'm a woose mate, if I could spool up 1000lb titanium wire to ensure I get my fish in I would! having said that, I see your sense & take your advice onboard. I'm thinking 50lb mono........or.............1000lb titanium wire, a locked drag & a video camera to make certain I capture my brother in law going heels up overboard screaming.........tooooo muuuuuuuch draaaaaag!

Thanks again guys. I will let you all know how we get on after the trip...which is by the way around 16th 17th july! you buggers will probably have dragged all the tuna in by then!

PS - Stewie, you sure you're not trying to send my broke! Oh well, ok, I'll buy another one then, coz any excuse is a good one. I'll just tell my accountant "Stewie said I had too!"

Edited July 1, 2008 by Boofhead

[roosterman]

Thanks for the great info & advice guys. As the concensus here seems to be mono I have my question answered.

Steve, you're still one fin up on me mate!

Dan, I'm a woose mate, if I could spool up 1000lb titanium wire to ensure I get my fish in I would! having said that, I see your sense & take your advice onboard. I'm thinking 50lb mono........or.............1000lb titanium wire, a locked drag & a video camera to make certain I capture my brother in law going heels up overboard screaming.........tooooo muuuuuuuch draaaaaag!

Thanks again guys. I will let you all know how we get on after the trip...which is by the way around 16th 17th july! you buggers will probably have dragged all the tuna in by then!

PS - Stewie, you sure you're not trying to send my broke! Oh well, ok, I'll buy another one then, coz any excuse is a good one. I'll just tell my accountant "Stewie said I had too!"

yeh mick i was very lucky that day as mine was only one boated ,mate lost his after 45min and we got it all on vid ..

yeh i cosidered 30lb then chickened out for 50lb...

i have a new plan of attack next summer for the big sydney hoods ...

cheers...steve.....

[dogtooth]

Hi there boofhead . Try and stick with mono its better for stretch, and a lot easier on large fish . Also try and spool up with a good tough line like tortue . It just may save your prized catch as it trys to rub you off on the boat in the last stages of the fight or get worn away from the constant rubbing of its tail on a 2 hour fight . Just remember a 60 kg yellowfin is over 1.5 metres long so if your trace is not that long than your mainline will be getting rubbed the entire fight . Now a long trace is good when fighting your fish but may also cost you in the later stages as once your swivel gets to your rodtip you are in the hands of the trace man and he may not be your friend on the day , especially if he has no experience . Another option is a wind on leader 100 lb to 130lb is fine that way you can control the fish all the way to your rod tip and its just you and the fish , and no one has to touch the line.

Hope this helps Cheers Dogtooth .. John

[Penguin]

Hi Boofhead,

I have 2 Tyrnos 30 reels like you, and Backbone Elite rods, I have

24kg mono on both and they worked well for us on the yft a few

weeks ago.

Best of luck when u try your hand at the yft later in the month.

penguin

[abiasin]

Gday mate, ideally you should be filling those reels with some 15kg then line capacity wont be an issue. Second thing is that 500m should definately be enough, youll be really unlucky if a fin pulls 500m on its first run, even the bigger ones. If capacity is still a worry for you what you can do is spool up 700m of braid and then topshot it with about 50m of mono, you will still have the stretch in your line at the end of the fight but you will also have that extra capacity, just make sure you use some gloves when laying the line on your spool. Albright the braid to your mono top shot and your set (just be wary that your albright fits through those backbone roller tips.....they're small).

Dan

braid backing with mono top shot. a mate of mine told me about this and it is done extensively in the us and places where tuna over 80kg are the normal catch.

avet pro 30 or 50w from the states with braid and mono top shot. these reels run all the drag you will need for the tuna.

Edited July 2, 2008 by Kingies till i die