mrt_08 Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Hi there fish raiders. This will be my first posting on this site. After reading so much success with the plastics you guys have i decided to buy some myself and give em a go myself. I mainly use nippers and prawns as bait howvever I decided to to change my style of fishing. Wnet out this arvo to East Hills on the Goerges River right under the train bridge, using 3" minnows and a berlkey 1/4OZ jig head. Was there flicking for about 2 hours, no luck and not a touch. Despite all that it was still good to get out and have a go. Was wandering if anyone has any tips and hints on how to be sucessful with plastic. For now safe and happy fishing to all
brett a Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 Hi breamfisher82 welcome to the site soft plastics is a challange form of fishing, use these lures slow a hop & retrieve or flick ,flick pause there a alot of ways of retreive . for bream fish slow not fast they can spook quite easy Jig heads should be enough to get to the bottom (sink slow)
Flightmanager Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 to FR breamfisher82 ! As you have taken the plunge and gone to SP's , it is worth getting a few varieties , different colours , shapes etc. Sometimes , fish will prefer one colour over another , what worked yesterday , may not work today. But above all , persevere !! The big fish will come !! Ross
wakd Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Hi breamfisher, Not sure how deep it is at East Hills, but a 1/4oz. jighead sounds too heavy to me. I mostly use 1/24 - 1/12 for bream, in deep water (30 feet plus) I will use a 1/8 or 1/6 and let it really sink down. My advice is too use a lighter jighead - 1/16 is a good allrounder for water up to about 20 feet. Cheers, Ben.
bharris Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 good to hear your having a go. i would suggest you give flathaed a go ,get some shad pattens in 70mm-80mm in natual shades and let t5hem sink to th bottom then give it a sharp flick let it sink and do it again u should get in to some down there ive got plenty at the footbrige so good luck mate
Ray R Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Breamfisher, I mainly target flatties with SP's, they are semi dorment at the moment but you will still get the odd one, you do as the the other guys have said and you will get them, for flatties they will start to become active around the end of Sept right the way through to may, look for shallow sandy bits with drop offs next to the shallow parts, you only need 3-7 gram jig heads 2/0 or 3/0, and a variety of plastics , here are a couple of the ones that I use and I can tell you that they get smashed, Berkley.. Jerk Shads : pepper neon, lime tiger, nuclear chicken, sardine, and watermelon.. This is just a few, but it is enough to start with.. What sort of hardware do you have, that is the important bit..
zephi Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I've fished underneath that train bridge before with no luck at all, even with fresh bait. My guess is under the bridge is quite shallow, and there's plenty of snags around there too. I don't know much else about fishing East Hills, I just never liked that area. East Hills is a park, so they've removed lots of rocks and I've heard that they've dredged a bit of it and added sand. So a lot of natural hiding spots were destroyed. I think most catches in that area fishes which swim up and down stream during tidal flows. All I know right now is, in the Georges River up-stream, around this time bream aren't as active, maybe wait until September or October and try.
mrt_08 Posted July 3, 2008 Author Posted July 3, 2008 Thank heaps guys for your words of wisdom and knowledge on the uswe of plastics. I will be taking all that was said on board and try all the techniques mentioned. To be honest I am lucky I asked because I did'nt have a clue on how to use them. Now on the better note, I went out again on Thursday Arvo to the same location using green prawns. I was initially using a mustad size 1 bait holder hook casting out, letting it settle for a while and then tightining the line. I would feel bites however no hook up. This went on for abour 45 minutes. I decided to change to plan b which was off goes the size 1 on comes the size 4 bait holder hook, only this time using smaller pieces of prawn. Out goes the cast, tighten the line and what do you know I'm hooked. I thought it was a flatty the way my line tightened however once retrieved I see it is a whiting and a good one for East Hills on the georges river, measuring up to 31cm.
MrGenius Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 I always use 2" pumpkin seed grubs in that spot with a 1/8th size jig head. It is pretty deep around the middle and with the tidal flow even a 1/8th will struggle to get bottom. The biggest whiting ive ever caught was at that spot but closer down to the walk bridge
tumra Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 thats a good fish mate.... there are also some big bream in that area also...If you have a chance go down towards kelso park and there is a deep section towards the centre of the river which holds a fair few fish.
Lasty Posted July 4, 2008 Posted July 4, 2008 I live not far from there maybe we should have a group fish.
tumra Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 hey i live nearby too but mostly fish around there for poddy mullet... they are in plague proportions in that area...
Lasty Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 hey i live nearby too but mostly fish around there for poddy mullet... they are in plague proportions in that area... Please, please, please, can you teach me when and how to catch them?
stanman Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 grt to c u trying sps, I 2 recently tried sps , at lugarno, and caught my first flathead on a berkly gulp. it a real buzz, pity it was undrsized, Im won over, going to invest in specialist gear. I found lighter jigheads to be more lifelike. goodluck and keep trying. p.s. this is my first entry too. . . . stanman.
Adz Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 Hey there breamfisher82, Mate, I'm new to fishing and plastics too. Here is my personal top two picks for speeding up the learning curve. The first one is about tackle, the second is about technique - both are very cheap and easy. Sound too good to be true? Read on brother... Tackle - the biggest difference for me on plastics was to ensure I used braid, coz without it, it was impossible for me to get the 'action' from the SP lure. Rods help too, as does a good reel, but the best rod and reel combo will still lose all its action by the time your movements reach the SP if you're using a 'stretching' line. Technique - I copied lots of 'tips and tricks' but at the end of the day, I never understood what the different taps, jiggles and pauses were doing to the SP until I swallowed my pride and went for a fish in my own backyard pool ! From there, I could SEE EXACTLY what effect my rod action had on the SP at the time of doing it. Got an idea of how fast the SP drifted to the bottom, whether the tail was working as it was supposed to - and generally if it 'looked' like a fish! Needless to say that my missus had a good ole laugh at my expense when she caught me . But the tables turned the very next time out with a good few catches (and a PB flattie to boot) . It helped me realise that some of my SP/jighead combos were all WRONG. Two VERY simple things in my book, and as a beginner, things I wish I'd been told earlier. If you're already aware of this, that's great, but I couldn't resist sharing something with you that made such a MASSIVE difference for me. Adz
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