tide'n'knots Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) Hi Raiders, fished wisemans ferry / laughtondale this morning with a good mate that I have been fishing with for the last 20years or so and had quiet a succesful trip and very enjoyable. Ended up taking home 8 flathead and 3 bream. Arrived at about 4.30am and within 5mins I was into a small soapy and I thought oh here we go again - another repeat of last tuesday, but although the soapy's were there they werent in the same numbers as the week before and between the two of us we probably caught about 10 or so all day, unfortunately all undersize again but the bream and flathead made up for it! By about 6.am we had caught 1 keeper flathead and decided to go to the windsock where i had intended to try soft plastics. The tide was slowing down and things l ooked fishy as we drifted the area flicking plastics - to no avail!!! after about an hour the tide was almost dead low and we decided to give up on the plastics and go back to what seems to work best for us - Bait! We pumped some squirt worms to use for bream and chose our spot to anchor then started fishing with bait again. 5 minutes later joe was into a solid fish heavy without much fight just like the bream that I entered into catch of the month and sure enough up comes a 41cm bream - you beauty! several minutes later Joe casts his line to the side of the boat and allowed the current to bring it around to the rear of the boat , only it didnt make it that far, about half way his rod buckled over in the rod holder and again he was into a solid fish a minute or so later a 55cm flathead hit the deck yeehah!! next cast joe casted his line into the same area for the same result only this time a 40cm model hit the deck. in the middle of this I managed a couple of small jew. We decided to drift through the area where joe was getting hit and imediately caught flathead, about 7 on the first drift however we only kept 2 and released the others that were just on legal. our second drift produced zilch and we decided the the drift had probably sped up to quick by then so we returned to anchor up again. we landed acouple more flathead some 2 or 3 small jew and managed 2 more bream in the fast running water which was very surprising as the bream normally bite better near the turn in the slacker water. All in all a very successful and enjotable day however I am slightly dissapointed that we did not have success with the soft plastics, not sure if our technique had something to do with it or not, we figured that the water clarity was very cloudy and dirty and visability was next to zero in fact the first flathead of the day blended in so well with the discoloured water that we couldnt see it in the torchlight until it broke the surface of the water, so maybe that was a factor. sorry about the quality of some of the photos but they were taken with my mobile. ( i must invest in a digital camera!) Edited November 17, 2008 by tide'n'knots
arpie Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Nothing wrong with those pics, Pete!!! Terrific fish!! Specially that Bream ..... not as fat as your other one tho!!! With your night-time method of catching jewies ..... try the prawns with fine Circle Hooks ...... the fish should inevitably get hooked in the corner of the mouth & may prevent the couple of 'misses' we had! Better luck on the bigger jewies next time!! Roberta
jjcrd Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 nice work on the bream and flatties shame bout the soapies wow they all look nice and fat goin up to hawkesbury on sat hope i get some like that cheers jason
tide'n'knots Posted November 17, 2008 Author Posted November 17, 2008 With your night-time method of catching jewies ..... try the prawns with fine Circle Hooks ...... the fish should inevitably get hooked in the corner of the mouth & may prevent the couple of 'misses' we had! HI roberta my mate Joe actually used the circle hooks today and had to cut off 3 or 4 jew because they scoffed the lot right down their gut!! unfortunately they are guts's and it didnt work! the problem with the circle hooks is when they go in a bit deep on the smaller fish, because of their shape they just dont come out without doing major damage to the fish. So ultimately you end up just cutting the line anyway. Pete.
glennmreid Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 what is it about the windsock that attracts the fish? is there some kind of structure under the surface?
tide'n'knots Posted November 17, 2008 Author Posted November 17, 2008 what is it about the windsock that attracts the fish? is there some kind of structure under the surface? mate im not sure whether there is rock or not but the bottom seems to be undulating there, and very uneven, it actually boils up as the water hits the uneven bottom. with the amount of flathead there it is obviously quite sandy also, so perhaps there is patchy rock reef or gravely bottom mixed with sand.???? I just know that you catch fish there!
johnv Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 wow got some nice fish there boys well done cheers john
plankton Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Good on ya there mate. What a catch of Flatties. Sensational. Again I havn't made it to the Ferry. Hope so soon!
glennmreid Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 mate im not sure whether there is rock or not but the bottom seems to be undulating there, and very uneven, it actually boils up as the water hits the uneven bottom. with the amount of flathead there it is obviously quite sandy also, so perhaps there is patchy rock reef or gravely bottom mixed with sand.???? I just know that you catch fish there! Thanks for the info. I'll have to get out there shortly and get into the action. sounds like a real productive spot.
marcel haber Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Well done once again Pete and Joe.... Looks like a very productive and enjoyable session mate. Keep up the good work and once again a very informative report. Twin 1 Marcel
Berleyguts Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Nice effort. I'll be up at Wiseman's the weekend after next with some friends from the soccer club at a ski park. I'm not particulalry into water skiing but I will have to have an evening and an early morning session from the shore. Baz
arpie Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 Hi Pete Re the circle hooks .... it is also very important how they are tied on! A snell is the best way to ensure they don't get gut hooked. You don't 'strike' circle hooks, you must let the fish hook themselves. They should slide up the throat (even if swallowed) & as the hook reaches the mouth & it turns with the pressure & the fish gets hooked - the point usually grabs the corner of the mouth. When tied correctly, the hook should be 'turning' towards the line, not lying straight. To read the whole article (written by a Kiwi who makes Fishing Kites & swears by them) check out http://www.fishing.sh/htmfiles/knots/snelling.html Better luck next time! Roberta
tumra Posted November 17, 2008 Posted November 17, 2008 great catch there mate... going up to wisemans early next month so i hope that i am as successful as you were.
tide'n'knots Posted November 17, 2008 Author Posted November 17, 2008 (edited) Hi Pete Re the circle hooks .... it is also very important how they are tied on! A snell is the best way to ensure they don't get gut hooked. You don't 'strike' circle hooks, you must let the fish hook themselves. They should slide up the throat (even if swallowed) & as the hook reaches the mouth & it turns with the pressure & the fish gets hooked - the point usually grabs the corner of the mouth. When tied correctly, the hook should be 'turning' towards the line, not lying straight. To read the whole article (written by a Kiwi who makes Fishing Kites & swears by them) check out http://www.fishing.sh/htmfiles/knots/snelling.html Better luck next time! Roberta Ah ha!!! we were talking about 2 different types of hooks altogether, I think the ones I was talking about were called bent shank hooks sorry my mistake! after seeing your diagram I get what you are talking about now! Edited November 17, 2008 by tide'n'knots
jewieslayer Posted November 18, 2008 Posted November 18, 2008 Top session mate hope the big jews come out and play next time Cheers Jewieslayer
tide'n'knots Posted November 19, 2008 Author Posted November 19, 2008 Top session mate hope the big jews come out and play next time Cheers Jewieslayer at this time of the year the big jew seem to be a bit of a fluke in that area. its amazing how, around april, they just appear in good numbers all of a sudden. Between now and then i will be targeting bream and flathead with jew as a good consolation prize if I happen to get one - come april I will get serious about jew. If I really want a jew between now and april I will be fishing the brooklyn end. Pete.
sails Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Hey Pete, once again, well done on showing us how productive the river is up that way. And aren't you the lucky one going fishing during the week!! I hope this w/e session is as productive!! chers Cam
tide'n'knots Posted November 19, 2008 Author Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) Hey Pete, once again, well done on showing us how productive the river is up that way. And aren't you the lucky one going fishing during the week!! I hope this w/e session is as productive!! chers Cam sunday and monday are my days off. yeh I am definately looking forward to catching up this weekend and getting in to some blackies. I dont mind catching pigs from the rocks either, how about you cam? Is tomorrow evening a good time to discuss on the phone for you? If so I will give you a call. Pete. Edited November 19, 2008 by tide'n'knots
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