Hodgey Posted March 9, 2009 Posted March 9, 2009 G'Day all I recently had a discussion with a couple of fishos at the Pub, and it was amusing to here the humble flatty tagged with so many different nicknames. The general consensus was: Less than 40cm = Frog 41cm to 64cm = Flatty 65cm to 79cm = Lizard 80+ = A Croc For me, a flatty is everything upto 75cm, and after that it deserves 'Croc' status! Now, here are the two questions that the 'peanut gallery' couldn't agree on, regardless of the amber nectar imbibed : : When does a jewfish advance from a Soapie to a Jewy, and when is a kingy regarded as a hoodlum? Fire away folks, but bear in mind this is simply a tongue-in-cheek look at the inebriated musings of some very keen fishos Cheers Hodgey
michaelrdoyle@gmail.com Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 ...and when is a kingy regarded as a hoodlum?... You know - it's about time we started with serious issues around here! On the King front, I reckon: <65cm = Rat 65-89cm = Kingy 90cm + = Hoodlum Though I wonder if the Hoodlum should start at 100cm. Mike
andrew399 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) I think 60 and under is a rat, everything else is a kingy, then hoodlums start between the 100-110cm range. I rekon jewies are soapies until about 3-4kg. And i call all flatties lizards! Until croc status at about 80-100 cm depending on my generosity! Edited March 10, 2009 by dicko
The Iceman Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Kingies-rats are undersize and hoodlums are 150cm+ Jewies-soapies under 50cm schoolies up to 100cm above that are jewies
jewgaffer Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Hi Hodgey School jewfish are regarded as being from 5-12 Kilos in size and travel in schools most of the time. School jewfish hunt as a pack and break off in groups of about five males to each female and go into estuaries whenever conditions suit the female cycle. Although estuary conditions can suit longer residency, mass entry generally starts as the summer weather cools down and this can be early or late depending on season........ Soapie jewfish cling to the school and hunt in clusters not far away from the school and go back with the school when they go down into their holes. The holes are their homes until they are big enough to go outside and fend from themselves, ...they school up again in the deepwater holes along the outside shoreline and safe outside reefs that suit...... Anything above 12 kilos are referred to as Mulloway. In the Sydney area, the cliffs between the mouth of the Hacking and Coalcliff feed the beach frontage between the Hacking and Botany Bay and as far north as Maroubra and Lurline Bay Coogee, I believe. The Stanwell Park to National Park high cliff areas also feeds Botany Bay, the Georges and the Hacking to some extent with mature soapies, school size jewfish, and of course Mulloway!! .......It is not unusual to have a pack of Mulloway among school size jewfish..... Mulloway are also are known to accompany soapies miles upriver and also join the school size males coming in escorting female mulloway or school size females up river at breeding time.... Some say Mulloway actually kill soapies for some reason which could be because they are weeds or imperfects. Cheers jewgaffer
pelican Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Hoodlum in Sydney I though was over 1 m. In NZ i would't want to guess but fry would describe our small kings So I think it is also dependent on where you are living and what waterway you are on. Hell those Qld and VICs still have different fish names let alone argueing about at what size they are called what. I say we should have 5 beers and start a discussion and by 10 beers we will be a lot closer to forgetting why we started looking for an answer!!! .
Hodgey Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 I say we should have 5 beers and start a discussion and by 10 beers we will be a lot closer to forgetting why we started looking for an answer!!! . That's how the problem started in the first place! Thanks to all who have contributed. Some entertaining and interesting feedback ... keep 'em coming Cheers Hodgey
joel99 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 That's how the problem started in the first place! Thanks to all who have contributed. Some entertaining and interesting feedback ... keep 'em coming Cheers Hodgey What about those really tiny flatties that you get everynow and then? <10cm = Tadpole?
jewgaffer Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Hoodlum in Sydney I though was over 1 m. .....I say we should have 5 beers and start a discussion and by 10 beers we will be a lot closer to forgetting why we started looking for an answer!!! . Pel that would be a nice old debate that would. After 10 beers the general consensus of opinion would be to go out and punish hoodlums and big mulloway with fly rods and some fancy Japanese 8lb braid that won't break until midnight but feels soft on the hands and the final hand shake will be based on the fact that British minnow centre pins handle 5lb Japanese braid like no other. Cheers jewgaffer
tide'n'knots Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 my thoughts- rats - under 65cm kingies between 65 and 100cm anything over 100cm is a hoodlum. soapies up to 45cm 45cm to about 90cm or 15lb - schoolies over 90cm jew, jewie or mulloway. At the end of the day it is all a matter of opinion and I think opinions will vary depending on how hard it is for any given individual to crack a certain size! For me personally I have never cracked a flathead over 65cm so anything over that for me would be considered a croc!!!
slinkymalinky Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 It's really very simple... up to 70cm .... flathead 70+.... someone else's Harbour Kingies under 65cm ... rats over 65cm ... somewhere else Cheers, Slinky
tide'n'knots Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 It's really very simple... up to 70cm .... flathead 70+.... someone else's Harbour Kingies under 65cm ... rats over 65cm ... somewhere else Cheers, Slinky Well done slinky thats about how it is!!!!
bb4life Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Umm i was wondering on the topic of rat kingfish... whats the differecne between a kingy and a rat???? thanks
Hodgey Posted March 11, 2009 Author Posted March 11, 2009 Umm i was wondering on the topic of rat kingfish... whats the differecne between a kingy and a rat???? thanks Hi mate So far, the general consensus is the term 'rat' is applied to undersized kingies. Thanks for the info everyone. I will now begrudgingly go back to the pub, consume a couple of bundy cans, and regale the fishos with my new found information! Cheers Hodgey
brickman Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 snapper cockny[under size] pinky just legal sqire the best eating plate size snapper bigger than your hand to your elbow old man red the one with the lump gary
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