Wantingaboat Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Recently i was fishing with my bream rod and something a bit weird was happening. The issue is that i have 6pound braid and then i tie that straight to 10 pound leader with a double uni and then the leader to jighead with a uni knot. Previously when i got a snag and i couldnt get it out and had to force it, the line would break where the braid and leader join. Last outting i was out i got a few snags, which i forced out, and the line snapped at the hook and left me with the rest of my leader. Is this usual or are my knots the issue? Please if any suggestions on knots to use make them easy!!! The uni knot is the only one i know. Cheers for help. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANNAFISH Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 What happened to the slim beauty knot I told you about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTK Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 hey mate when i use braid i do a Bimini Twist in the braid before the leader to braid knot and it normally always breaks at the hook side (which is a good thing) leaving me with the rest of my leader to re-use. bimini twist is a good one to know, it basically doubles your braid up so its double the thickness and easier to use. Cheers Cory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkymalinky Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 G'day Mike, Were you putting a fair bit of pressure on when the line was breaking or was it obviously breaking way under full breaking strain? There has to be a 'weakest point' somewhere in every rig and that's where the line will break. In this case it was your uni at the hook. It could be a bad knot or it may just be that the braid, the double uni leader knot and the leader would have broken at say 10lb while the knot at the hook broke at 9.9lb... if you know what I mean. Cheers, Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wantingaboat Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Thanks for your replies. John i tried that knot and cant do it. I will have another go as i think that must be the issue. My leader to main line knot must have been no good when it was breaking there. Cheers Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray R Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 G'day mate, I tie an Improved Albright knot to tie leader to braid and if done correctly 99 times out of 100 it will stay in tact and the knot to hook/jighead will break, give the Albright a go , it is a good knot.. Cheers.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Knot Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 Recently i was fishing with my bream rod and something a bit weird was happening. The issue is that i have 6pound braid and then i tie that straight to 10 pound leader with a double uni and then the leader to jighead with a uni knot. Previously when i got a snag and i couldnt get it out and had to force it, the line would break where the braid and leader join. Last outting i was out i got a few snags, which i forced out, and the line snapped at the hook and left me with the rest of my leader. Is this usual or are my knots the issue? Please if any suggestions on knots to use make them easy!!! The uni knot is the only one i know. Cheers for help. Mike. Hi Mike Things can sometimes change re failure points in braid to leader and leader to jig. It can depend on the type of knots used and the type of brand of leader. Have been through cycles where I would break at leader and then break at jig head. - and questions like you ask. Personally find best situation is to have failure if any at the jig head knot (at least you dont burn up fishing time re tieing both leader and jig head) Sounds like you have got the braid to leader issue OK so may be try a different leader brand and see if your gig head knot failure prob persists. Have always used uni knot to jig head and think most guys would support this as trouble free. Also look carefully at the end of the leader (after a break off) and see if it has been sheared off (cut) by the snag or shows signs of the remnant uni-knot that is was tied with (that might be a small curly bit left at the end of the leader, which mag give a clue as to whether the knot failed or the snag cut the line at or near the jig head. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micksfishn Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 have to agree with ray albright knot just keep practicing it when tied properly will never let you down mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANNAFISH Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I think the problem with the albright knot is the tag end of the leader will constantly catch on the guides reducing the casting distance unless your using a short leader. I never had failure on this knot as I always check anyway see if the knot is still good or if the leader is abit worn out. I normally use slim beauty on my light to medium gear and albright for heavy duty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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