Yarraone Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 i have just bought a new SP setup and I am not sure which knot to use to join my mono to my braid? The second knot, will be joining my braid to my leader? Can I use the same knot? How do I tie the best knots? i will have 6lb to 8lb mono joining to 4lb braid(fireline), and then my braid to 8lb leader thanks again guy's
Captain Spanner Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 I would use a double uni for both the mono to braid and braid to leader. If the braid is cutting through the mono or the leader when you tighten it then you can tie a double on your braid, i use a bimini. Or you can just double the braid over with no knot and tie the double uni with the doubled over bit. The doubling over sometimes helps stop the braid cutting throught the mono or leader.
Hodgey Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Have a look here mate ... it may help you out: Joining braid to mono/fluro cheers Hodgey
johnno Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 i was using a improved albright but had a few fail on me so i went to the 5 turn surgeon. but i think i do not lube the knot enough and may be getting burn whilst locking my knot up. So plenty of lube/saliva helps
WANNAFISH Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Use the slim beauty knot with doubling the braid when connecting to ur leader. At least with this knot, the tag end of the leader will be facing the reel so wont get snagged on the guides when casting. Therefore you cast a bit further and avoid wind knots as much as possible.
GUDude Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 I'll second the improved albright for braid to leader and then a perfection loop for the lure, I havent had this combination fail me yet. If you want I can pm you a link to a short video on how to tie both. Cheers, GUDude
sadamson Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 I use a 5 turn surgeon knot which swordy showed me, its strong and very easy to tie.
hottyscotty Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 with lines being so light, the 5 turn surgeon is very good once you get beyond 15lb leaders, then you use slim beauty or albright knots. for me, when i go past 50lb leaders, i use the pr knot. pita to do on a rocking boat tho.
robeebee Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 I use this one http://www.animatedknots.com/albright/inde...shraider.com.au
snag Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 Prefer the uni knot myself, easy to do and takes no time at all. Might try the labright knot and see if its any better.
jewgaffer Posted May 19, 2009 Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Hi Yarraone...I don't think you can go wrong with a minimum wrap uni for the line class in the mono and a double line blood knot in the braid section with a couple of extra wraps and tighten the knot so that the wraps sit in, under and against the first wraps of the mono for low profile purposes... and for all other rig knots use double line blood knots again...the double line blood knot gives you a tag up the line and a loop near the eye of a swivel or hook if using one hook (the double line blood knot up the line can have a longer wrap section for toothy critters -or you can slip a short piece of lumo tubing over the double line blood knot to make a bird of it, if targetting same).... the loop returned to the feed thru end makes a four line sling at the eye and can be cut into two tags giving you three tags altogether and best knot strength as the knot itself exhausts up into the single line where the line rating takes over for strength rather then the knot which is not really a knot but a series of doubled wraps with locked in tags........ Cheers jewgaffer Edited May 20, 2009 by jewgaffer
Yarraone Posted May 20, 2009 Author Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks for all your help... Does anyone know of a link that shows how to do these knot's? or a short video? When it coms to knot's I am the clumsy one.. Thanks again
Hodgey Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Thanks for all your help... Does anyone know of a link that shows how to do these knot's? or a short video? When it coms to knot's I am the clumsy one.. Thanks again Some of them can be found here mate: Animated knots Hodgey
gretsch Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Slim Beauty is my number 1!! Works well in all line classes too.
Flightmanager Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 The link for the Knots Video website has a button at the top of the page !! Ross
stylo Posted May 25, 2009 Posted May 25, 2009 I would use a double uni for both the mono to braid and braid to leader. If the braid is cutting through the mono or the leader when you tighten it then you can tie a double on your braid, i use a bimini. Or you can just double the braid over with no knot and tie the double uni with the doubled over bit. The doubling over sometimes helps stop the braid cutting throught the mono or leader. Can you elaborate on this mate ? bimini in the braid .. so you get the loop (or double line as you may want to call it) do you then double back the looped braid and use that to tie your uni/albright ?
cjchen Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 stren knot for me double uni has lost me some fish before basically a uni knot 4 turns around the braid with the fluro then a half blood 8 turns with the braid around the fluro albright is good, tried it but its really hard to do when theres wind and ur on a kayak i can do the stren knot with my eyes closed. and its not that much difficult than the double uni i use half blood knots anyway to tie my jigheads
jewgaffer Posted May 28, 2009 Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) i use half blood knots anyway to tie my jigheads It's a good idea to lock the half blood knot cj and tighten the knot right up but leave the loop formed by the locked blood knot a little above the eye, and then check the swimming action for loop length but still leave a few milimetres gap to the eye even if hard up works ok on the particular lure... When you get a hit, the knot will slip down to the eye of the hook and the slip will drive the hook in and increase your hook up rate particularly when you have a split second to hook up solid when a fish hits a lure.... Cheers jewgaffer Edited May 29, 2009 by jewgaffer
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