DerekD Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 I have a chance to go out to 12 mile reef and Browns this weekend and I want to set the gear up so I give myself and the people I am with the best chance to land some of the big fish I hear that are being caught out there. Most of the gear is 15kg mono but I will be bringing my 50lb braid outfit too. For my light fishing I use the uni to uni knot which is easy to do and has served me well over the years but since the fish out there are going to really be pushing the gear I am changing my method for this trip. I have Geoff Wilson's book on knots and rigs and I plan to plait a double in the mono outfits and use the Tony Jones knot recommended in the book to join the fluorocarbon leader to the double. From what I have read this is the best way to retain full strength in the mono and as the Fluorcarbon is 80lb I can afford the loss in knot strength there. I was thinking of tieing the leader to the hook using the uni knot unless there is a knot which retains better strength. My usual preferred method for joining the braid to the leader is to tie the braid to a heavy duty swivel with a triple palomar and then running the leader from the swivel. The triple palomar should retain close to 100% of the braid line strength. This time however I want to be able to wind the leader up through the runners and I won't be doing that with a swivel and at this stage I don't feel like getting into wind on leaders. The book mentions (and I can do) the bimini twist but I have heard there is still some loss in knot strength in the braid. The book does not mention plaiting a double from braid (superlines). I want to know if anyone has bothered plaiting a double with braid and what their experience with it is? Alternatively which joining knots would they recommend which can be wound through the runners and which will still retain most of the line strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hottyscotty Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 check out the knots here NO NO NO - Slinky they're all good for joining heavy leaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekD Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 check out the knots here NO NO NO Slinky they're all good for joining heavy leaders Thanks for that HottyScotty. Coincidently I went to my local tackleshop that afternoon and mentioned it to them and believe it or not just that afternoon someone had come in and demonstrated the knot in your link to the guys in the shop. I looked at it and recognized it straight away. It seems it has turned up in one of the recent fishing magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 The book mentions (and I can do) the bimini twist but I have heard there is still some loss in knot strength in the braid. The book does not mention plaiting a double from braid (superlines). I want to know if anyone has bothered plaiting a double with braid and what their experience with it is? Alternatively which joining knots would they recommend which can be wound through the runners and which will still retain most of the line strengths. DereckD I feel that having full confidence in your gear and in particular with your knots is an important part of the equation ......Being at that stage of proccedings where taking your gear to it's upper end limits will be required in subduing a stubborn fish.....or no more so evident than if the event is to arise where you find yourself connected to a fish way above the average expected on the lineclass you have presented.. You mentioned the Tony Jones Knot which I myself have full confidence in and have used that knot for connection of 50lb braid to 80lb Pink Ande on the Saltiga outfits for quite a number of years now for very good result interestingly a double in the braid is not utilised by myself rather the braid on the mainline is just simply doubled over to start of with and wrapped around the leader... I suggest you try it and trial it and see how you go with it..... i have use the same application for way heavier leader on marlin and have had no failure with the connection todate. Cheers Warnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 DereckD Being at that stage of proccedings where taking your gear to it's upper end limits will be required in subduing a stubborn fish.....or no more so evident than if the event is to arise where you find yourself ..........interestingly a double in the braid is not utilised by myself rather the braid on the mainline is just simply doubled over to start of with and wrapped around the leader........ .... i have use the same application for way heavier leader on marlin and have had no failure with the connection todate. Cheers Warnie. That's the one Warnie ...I've used the same knot for braid to mono from the time I first got into power pro and must admit I've never been broken off by a mullet of any size including wild looking northern bull mullet Cheers jewgaffer How've you been Steve ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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