abecedarian Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Hi Guys, Through the joys of online shopping I recently bought (on an impulse) a Daiwa Saltist 50H for bugger all money. Now the only problem is I have to get a rod for it... I was thinking the Nitro Messiah overhead as it seems to fit the bill quite nicely and is still within my budget, although only just. I'd be mainly casting lures for salmon and bigger fish off the beach and rocks. Anyway, just thought I'd get a feel for what others use/recommend and if there are any good suggestions out there... Cheers, A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humkyle Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 the messiah is a particularly heavy duty rod.... will you be chasing big jews and sharks? cuase if so the rod is perfect.. maybe a little heavy for salmon... i catch salmon on 10lb braid, so u dont need "reel" (haha, note the pun) heavy gear. cheers, HK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 The Saltist 50 is a bit big for spinning off the rocks and beaches, especially for small fish like salmon. It's more suited for more heavy duty work like spinning and bait fishing for big jewies or large pelagics like longtail tuna and spanish mackeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abecedarian Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 Thanks for the replies guys. While I say salmon, that's probably the most likely thing I'll catch but not necessarily what I'll target . Mainly I want a rod and reel combo so I can chase big fish off the rocks and beach, like jews, kingfish and so on. The messiah is nice but just not sure if I should look for something that can handle a heavier casting weight. That said, surely there isn't that much need for a lure over 4 oz is there?? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 The problem is you will need a lure/ sinker of around 4oz to get the spool moving and any sort of distance on a reel the size of the Saltist 50. Even the 30 size model is considered quite large for beach fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trungie Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I can't comment on your situation, but i can comment on the Nitro Messiah! It's a very light rod for it's class. It's got plenty of power in it. Can cast a MILE!!!! very good casting rod. Especially with braid which is easier to load up. Good thing also is, if u break a section, send it back to the manufacturer with 60 or so bucks and they'll replace it for you, which is important to me - as if i broke a Shimano Tiralejo or Daiwa moonraker it'll be so painful. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abecedarian Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 The problem is you will need a lure/ sinker of around 4oz to get the spool moving and any sort of distance on a reel the size of the Saltist 50. Even the 30 size model is considered quite large for beach fishing. Hmm, interesting. I'd have thought it would've spun up easier than that... Maybe the reel is better suited to a rod such as a wilson live fibre for live baiting off the stones... I can't comment on your situation, but i can comment on the Nitro Messiah! It's a very light rod for it's class. It's got plenty of power in it. Can cast a MILE!!!! very good casting rod. Especially with braid which is easier to load up. Good thing also is, if u break a section, send it back to the manufacturer with 60 or so bucks and they'll replace it for you, which is important to me - as if i broke a Shimano Tiralejo or Daiwa moonraker it'll be so painful. Cheers Yeah that's one of the things I like about it. The other is it's quite a bit cheaper than the daiwa and shimano equivalent... Thanks for the info, it's always good to hear feedback about these things before you jump in and buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbink Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Hmm, interesting. I'd have thought it would've spun up easier than that... Maybe the reel is better suited to a rod such as a wilson live fibre for live baiting off the stones... Yes it would make a good light LBG reel. It would be handy on ledges where it's hard to get a drift because you could cast a livey a good way. It would be a good reel for jewies off rock and breakwalls where a long cast isn't needed. I have one myself (the low speed version) but I have only used it for boat fishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
customcasting Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Hi ive spun of the rocks with the saltist 50 h for a few years now ,it is a very good HSS reel , i use manly home made 1/2 x 1/4 that weigh 50 grams ,the reel cast this weight very well ,it is not to big for this kind of work ,if you are spinning and hook that fish of a life time you can have enough line to stop it .300 mts of 30 lbs braid with 300 of a good 15 kg mono on top ,you will stop most of the bigger tuna or spanish with that amount of line , as for a rod dont rush in ,the Nitro Messiah is a nice rod but suited to a small reel ,a 5120 will do the job on a cheap budget , its been used for many years with good sucsus.there is some new 10 foot rods or blanks coming in to Australia in october ,these rods are 2 piece and out of the UK catfish market ,they have taken catfish over 200 lbs ,the rod has been changed slightly to suit the high speed spin market in Australia ,I hope to do some work with them in the next few weeks . cheers cc Edited August 26, 2009 by customcasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewgaffer Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Great advice customcasting ...Great to have you on Fishraider Cheers jewgaffer Edited August 26, 2009 by jewgaffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abecedarian Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Thanks for the advice guys, it's good to get a few opinions and a few other options presented to you. I think I might have to do a bit more research into the rods, might look a bit more closely at rods with a kilwell blank too... Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a5corray Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Custom Cast... is that who I think it is? If so, I just made amendments to a rod I was using this year coz the reel seat was too low. The right position for the reel seat is the length of your arm plus 2-3 inches right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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