PRED-ATOR Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 G'day Raiders, With my down rigger, i usually slow troll baits such as gars, squid and slimeys. And bibless minnows such as rapala x raps and metal slugs. But can you down rig deep divers? and skirted lures. Alot of you might think it pointless to downrig a deep diver, but i want the thing to be almost scraping along the bottom in very deep water e.g over 60 feet. My plan is to clip the line, about 10 metres from the lure so theres alot of free line and let it run deeper then the down rigger. But if i do this, will the pressure of the bib on the minnow pull the lure from the clip? Also does anyone down rig skirted lures? i down rig swuid so i dont see why not lol. I sound up alot of fish that i cant get to on the troll due to the fact there down so low. Any input would be awesome chaps. Cheers, Predator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 you can downrig any thing replace your down rig clips with elastic bands and that will stop them pulling on with the pressure from the lure replace the cable with braid this will allow you to put more line onto the downrigger and allow you to fish deeper baits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim77 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Exactly what FT said - i have pretty much done away with using the commercial downrigger releases - yes they are quicker and easier to use but if you are using bigger baits and particularly if you are downrigging deep, a lot of the releases can't handle the pressure and the baits keep popping out of the clip. Just use elastic bands and clip swivels - and your bait/lure will hold easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prawn* Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 jimm and framed trash are on the money i have done the same with my set up used a 100lb trace of the ball about 500mm with a game clip swivel and use elastic bands although ive never had any trouble with standard clips i just trust band more.. also with deep diver i have tryed them with no luck as they load up to much (to much underwater drag) and release to easy good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRED-ATOR Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thanks for the tips guys, Might go the elastic band. What pound down ribber bomb do you all use? Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the tips guys, Might go the elastic band. What pound down ribber bomb do you all use? Thanks again Size 12 rubber band Bomb depends on conditioms and depths 10lb for deep water in strong current and 3-5lb for inshore The scotty release clips are ok to use but stick the elastic band in the clip not the line and make sure the clip is set to it strongest setting You want the band to break not the release clip to open Edited August 15, 2011 by Framedtrash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRED-ATOR Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thanks framed trash thats awesome. Predator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtisjohnthomas Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Yeah down-rig anything and always use a rubber band. If your trolling live bait fish, rig an elastic band through the eye of the fish and attach it to the hook. Gets your live bait swimming better and keeps alive forever. Also inshore I use 6lb. 10lb for outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Please explain the use of rubber bands and swivel clips instead of proprietary release clips. An illustration or photo would be good. When using a proprietary clip, such as a Scotty, couldn't you just wrap a small rubber band around the clamp end to provide more compressive force which would hold the bigger baits or lures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aussie007 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 this is the clip u need its one from cannon at one point 80cm kings were having trouble pulling the bait ive tried a few release clips this one by far stands out as 3x stronger there are levels of tightness on the levers and also by turning the knob so u can vary the tension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRED-ATOR Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Thanks for all the tips guys, I will try them all. Geeze Gazza that clip looks like a set of pliers lol they look like they could hold definately. How much? Thanks, Predator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 if u dont already have release clips i wouldn't bother buying them just use some stiff 100+lb trace and tie this to the tail of your bomb and stick a big snap swivel on the other end better then any clip and costs next to nothing to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aussie007 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Thanks for all the tips guys, I will try them all. Geeze Gazza that clip looks like a set of pliers lol they look like they could hold definately. How much? Thanks, Predator im not sure mate ive never needed to replace mine but they sure out do the scotty clip i have hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prawn* Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 this is the clip u need its one from cannon at one point 80cm kings were having trouble pulling the bait ive tried a few release clips this one by far stands out as 3x stronger there are levels of tightness on the levers and also by turning the knob so u can vary the tension looks like the cannon standard clip they work ok u just have to know how to set them up fiddly things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aussie007 Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 looks like the cannon standard clip they work ok u just have to know how to set them up fiddly things. mine has worked strait out of the box ive never had to adjust it in a year to a year and a half i bought a cannon lake troll downrigger from west marine in the USA i thought it didnt come with a clip so i ordered the scotty clip at the same time the scotty clip with yellow tips is ridiculous anything faster than idle speed or slightly larger bait it unclips this cannon clip clips everything including braid or mono where as the scotty only does mono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framedtrash Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 mine has worked strait out of the box ive never had to adjust it in a year to a year and a half i bought a cannon lake troll downrigger from west marine in the USA i thought it didnt come with a clip so i ordered the scotty clip at the same time the scotty clip with yellow tips is ridiculous anything faster than idle speed or slightly larger bait it unclips this cannon clip clips everything including braid or mono where as the scotty only does mono the scotty's have 2 settings sounds like u r using the wrong setting the section ive circled changes the settings u just push it in or pull it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aussie007 Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 the scotty's have 2 settings sounds like u r using the wrong setting the section ive circled changes the settings u just push it in or pull it out ive used both setting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted August 18, 2011 Share Posted August 18, 2011 I have to agree that the Scotty is pretty weak on both settings, even with very small load. Thats why I suggest rubber bands around the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifonly Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Wouldn't the deep diver work just aswell as everything else if you used a heavier elastic band to counteract to force of the drag put out by the bib and then when a fish hit the lure the band would snap just the same? Just a confused question from someone who dosent own a downrigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRED-ATOR Posted August 21, 2011 Author Share Posted August 21, 2011 So does anyone troll jethead skirted lures on the downrigger? I think they would give off an awesome action underwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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