Johnny87au Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hey guys, First post since i joined yesterday, have to admit learnt so much just from browsing!! Really great forum u guys have here ! Anyhow my main question is hook sizes. 1) If i was to catch a yakka say 6cm in length which hooks should i be using ? 2) If i was to catch Live squid should i be using the gamakatsu octupus hooks? If yes what size ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks for the quick reply mate, is 6/0 quite big ? Because i use size 3/0s for gang hooks and i could imagine a 6/0 to be alot bigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardgid Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 the best hook to catch yellowtail with is, a size 12 Mustad longshank chem sharpened hook, they are sharp as straight out of the pack and will stay sharp for a very long time,the gun bait to use with that sort of hook is beef mince , dont just place it on the hook , take a handful of mince in one hand and run the hook through the mince with the other, this way the mince gets hooked and it does not come off easy, if you are going to keep the yellowtail alive for a long time shake them of the hook into a 20ltr bucket of water and dont keep more then 12 into a bucket because they will foul the water and die, also keep on adding fresh salt water into the bucket every half an hour with another bucket so that they stay alive longer, this way when you finish you can return the remainder yellowtail back to the water alive, use squid jigs for squid, good luck . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Thanks leonard, i usually am fine for catching yellowtails, caught like 12 the other week. My main question is which hook to use as live bait to catch some kingies?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mii11x Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Hey guys, First post since i joined yesterday, have to admit learnt so much just from browsing!! Really great forum u guys have here ! Anyhow my main question is hook sizes. 1) If i was to catch a yakka say 6cm in length which hooks should i be using ? 2) If i was to catch Live squid should i be using the gamakatsu octupus hooks? If yes what size ? You do mean 6 inch yakkas don't you johnstar??? and when you catch squid it will be live btw. Assuming your after kings or jews.........size 6/0 in either gamakatsu live bait or occy circles is about right. Depending on what my bait size is though I might drop it down to 4/0's or 5/0's. Squid are very difficult, I find, to keep alive, the trick is not to go so deep as it will pierce internals of the squid and it will die. Single hook gamakatsu 4/0 or 6/0 I use for my rigs for yakkas, at times I will use a snelled setup so 4/0 - 6/0 circles; for my squid (whole or strip) i use 4/0 - 6/0 circles. Unless your bait is very large.....then maybe try 8/0's or larger. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 Awesome advice guys, For baiting up a squid does this sound right, 2 snelled hooks 1 through the squirter which is just under the head and 1 on the side of his body, meaning the long flappy bits on each side of the squid ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 19, 2012 Author Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) Forgot to mention im after a rod/reel combo for catching light stuff such as yakkas, Any rod/reel i should get ? Also the chemically sharpened circle octopus hooks okay ? Edited February 19, 2012 by Johnstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mii11x Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Awesome advice guys, For baiting up a squid does this sound right, 2 snelled hooks 1 through the squirter which is just under the head and 1 on the side of his body, meaning the long flappy bits on each side of the squid ?? almost mate, as squidward said, one snelled hook right at the very tip of the hood, and one just above the head on the top side of the hood......if you wanted to keep them alive......and like i mentioned earlier, when you place the bottom hook care must be taken not to pierce the internals else the squid will die. if your using your squid as fresh dead bait its then okay to place the hook between the centre of the eyes. to clear things up......looking at a squid with the hood at the top at head at bottom, the flaps on the hood are closer to you. this is what im referring to as being the top side of the squid. ill take a photo next time i do it and you will see what i mean. ill pm you if you like as for the rod reel combo, any 1-3kg rod and reel will do. if its just yakkas your after, just use some mono directly off a spool if you doint have a handline mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) almost mate, as squidward said, one snelled hook right at the very tip of the hood, and one just above the head on the top side of the hood......if you wanted to keep them alive......and like i mentioned earlier, when you place the bottom hook care must be taken not to pierce the internals else the squid will die. if your using your squid as fresh dead bait its then okay to place the hook between the centre of the eyes. to clear things up......looking at a squid with the hood at the top at head at bottom, the flaps on the hood are closer to you. this is what im referring to as being the top side of the squid. ill take a photo next time i do it and you will see what i mean. ill pm you if you like as for the rod reel combo, any 1-3kg rod and reel will do. if its just yakkas your after, just use some mono directly off a spool if you doint have a handline mick Awesome mate, a pic would be highly appreciated as im still a bit confused hehe, and yep wanna use for live bait to try catch some kingies hehe.. As for hooks for both yakkas and squids are these okay ?? http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/johnny87au/441416157_o.jpg Edited February 20, 2012 by Johnstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mii11x Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Awesome mate, a pic would be highly appreciated as im still a bit confused hehe, and yep wanna use for live bait to try catch some kingies hehe.. As for hooks for both yakkas and squids are these okay ?? http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n556/johnny87au/441416157_o.jpg they are fine mate, buy a few packs of different sizes 4/0 to maybe 8/0. next il be going fishing will prob be tue night, so ill take a photo then ok mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 20, 2012 Author Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) they are fine mate, buy a few packs of different sizes 4/0 to maybe 8/0. next il be going fishing will prob be tue night, so ill take a photo then ok mate Thanks mate really appreciate it, Where abouts u from maby i can come some time on ur boat? Could learn a few things EDIT, send u a PM Edited February 20, 2012 by Johnstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 We typically use either a size 4 owner etc for a yakka pinned beind the head, and the same but a double rig of 4-0's for squid. Only time we change is when chasing jews when we both use 5, and "sometimes" 6-0's if we are out of 5's Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 21, 2012 Author Share Posted February 21, 2012 We typically use either a size 4 owner etc for a yakka pinned beind the head, and the same but a double rig of 4-0's for squid. Only time we change is when chasing jews when we both use 5, and "sometimes" 6-0's if we are out of 5's Dan Awesome advice buddy, when u say double rig u mean you snell 2x 4's yeah ? Also quick question when soft baiting do you guys generally leave the bait on the ocean bed or do u actually spin it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Awesome advice buddy, when u say double rig u mean you snell 2x 4's yeah ? Also quick question when soft baiting do you guys generally leave the bait on the ocean bed or do u actually spin it ? Yeah a snell rig or a very good adaption of that rig without the need for all the twists etc, and can tie it blind folded...... You said "soft baiting do you guys generally leave the bait on the ocean bed or do you actually spin it'??? What do you mean exactly? Do we fish our fresh but dead squid on the bottom? If so the answer is a DEFINATE NO! We crank it up 1-4metres off the bottom but this is dependant upon where your fishing. IE in 15metres of water we bring it up 2.5-4ms off the bottom when chasing kings, as you jews thats a completely different story. Dan Edited February 22, 2012 by Dan and Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Yeah a snell rig or a very good adaption of that rig without the need for all the twists etc, and can tie it blind folded...... You said "soft baiting do you guys generally leave the bait on the ocean bed or do you actually spin it'??? What do you mean exactly? Do we fish our fresh but dead squid on the bottom? If so the answer is a DEFINATE NO! We crank it up 1-4metres off the bottom but this is dependant upon where your fishing. IE in 15metres of water we bring it up 2.5-4ms off the bottom when chasing kings, as you jews thats a completely different story. Dan Wheres the best place to find some squid ?? And i meant when using soft bait lures such as worms etc do u treat it like a lure meaning spin it all the way in or sometimes leave it on the ocean bed letting the current move it ?? Tryed both and so far so good.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 How far up for jews? Within 1.5metres or less of the bottom, occasionally you get snagged up or dusted by a king that might cruise through deep, but thats life. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Wheres the best place to find some squid ?? And i meant when using soft bait lures such as worms etc do u treat it like a lure meaning spin it all the way in or sometimes leave it on the ocean bed letting the current move it ?? Tryed both and so far so good.. There are no sure fire places for squid like everything else, best advice is have a very close read of the article i believe slinky, forgive me if Im wrong, and a few other members put together on chasing squid. Sorry I dont have the link for this report. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigbody23t Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 how i rig my live squid allways most carefully , never upset teh squid only poke thu the skirt and the tip and the tip of the hood handled corectly they will stay alive for long periods of time when trolled at low speeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny87au Posted February 25, 2012 Author Share Posted February 25, 2012 how i rig my live squid allways most carefully , never upset teh squid only poke thu the skirt and the tip and the tip of the hood handled corectly they will stay alive for long periods of time when trolled at low speeds haha had to take a pic of the boat didnt you , nice boat i must say mate !! Any chance you could take a closer pic next time so i can see the exact hook placement ? Also when catching yakkas whats the best rig to catch 3 or so in one go ? Sick of casting then bang out of bait only for 1 yakka at a time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piss'n'Broke Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 haha had to take a pic of the boat didnt you , nice boat i must say mate !! Any chance you could take a closer pic next time so i can see the exact hook placement ? Also when catching yakkas whats the best rig to catch 3 or so in one go ? Sick of casting then bang out of bait only for 1 yakka at a time.. Use a bait jig with size 6-8 hooks, cut the jig into 2 so you have 2, 3 hook rigs, then tie a few spilt shot sinkers to the bottom of your rig. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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