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i have been going to my regular squidding spot and it has been very quiet on the squid,from averaging between 5-10(sometimes even more)before to now 1-3(sometimes even none),thought we should try somewhere else and i remembered a spot that i used to go when i had my boat which is still accesible by land which i have not been for a couple of years now and we were sure glad we did :yahoo:.i used to catch squid at that spot which were pretty small around the 10cm mark but they have grown in size and number's.we have been going there for 3 nights straight and on the first night i got 12,2nd night 10 and last night we got 31.

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i have been going to my regular squidding spot and it has been very quiet on the squid,from averaging between 5-10(sometimes even more)before to now 1-3(sometimes even none),thought we should try somewhere else and i remembered a spot that i used to go when i had my boat which is still accesible by land which i have not been for a couple of years now and we were sure glad we did :yahoo:.i used to catch squid at that spot which were pretty small around the 10cm mark but they have grown in size and number's.we have been going there for 3 nights straight and on the first night i got 12,2nd night 10 and last night we got 31.

Hi Mate, AWESOME catch there great work.You are the master :1worthy:

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yes i was squidding with a friend so nothing illegal there :thumbup:

Nice work i hope you guys ate them quick or were with more than one friend because the bag limit is also a possession limit to stop greedy people loading up there freezer every night, once you have 20 in your possession even at home that's all you can legally keep.

Ben

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the bag limit is also a possession limit

I didn't know that....I'll look into it

So Bump73 was right. Well you learn something every day.

Extract from NSW fisheries

Possession limit

A possession limit is the maximum number of fish that a person is allowed to have in their possession at any time. Possession limits provide a useful tool to discourage illegal sales of fish by constraining recreational fishers from accumulation commercial quantities of fish. For all saltwater species, the daily bag limit is the possession limit and it applies to all areas of the state.

Read more here

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/recreational/regulations/sw/sw-bag-and-size/about-bag-and-size-limits

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congrats on the LEGAL, and therefore fishraider acceptable, catch!!

wish i could find some locally here in forster. got a hold of some off the back of a trawler recently and used fresh it nailed a jew and a few big tailor.

what sort of jig were you using?

cheers

tom

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This topic has been tidied up ... please be mindful of both Fishraider and Fisheries rules everyone.

Please note: The member has clarified the distribution of his catch and the total number currently in his possession by PM.

Cheers

Hodgey

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I didn't know that....I'll look into it So Bump73 was right. Well you learn something every day. Extract from NSW fisheries Possession limit A possession limit is the maximum number of fish that a person is allowed to have in their possession at any time. Possession limits provide a useful tool to discourage illegal sales of fish by constraining recreational fishers from accumulation commercial quantities of fish. For all saltwater species, the daily bag limit is the possession limit and it applies to all areas of the state. Read more here http://www.dpi.nsw.g...and-size-limits

Hey Kooks and Bump73,

I'm curious to see what the definition of "In possession" is.

It isn't stated.

What IS stated is the definition of:

1. Bag limit (Bag limit is the maximum number of fish per person in possession)

2. Daily bag limit (They limit the number of fish that an individual angler can catch and keep in a 24 hour period)

3. Possession limit (possession limit is the maximum number of fish that a person is allowed to have in their possession at any time.).... but also states in the same paragraph (For all saltwater species, the daily bag limit is the possession limit....).

So is the possession limit the same as the bag limit (what you can catch and keep in 24 hours) or is it what you have in your possession at any time?

If the former (a possession limit IS the same as the daily bag limit) and a daily bag limit is what you can catch in 24 hours, this means that the possession limit is what you can catch and possess in 24 hours.

If the latter (a possession limit is what you have in your possession at any time), then it is different...

But what does "possession" mean ? The rule is only clear if the term 'In possession" is defined by DPI.

See what I mean ?

Now we can speculate on its meaning and use our own logic to assign a definition to the term 'in possession", but it will only be accepted by DPI if it is defined by DPI.

I understand the reasons for imposing a possession limit to stop people from stocking up their freezer with hundreds of fish.

I'm dead set against hoarding huge numbers of fish. There is no need to stock up numbers like that unless there is some trickery going on.

So, If someone caught 11 whiting on a Wednesday and went again on Sunday and caught 10 more and all went in the fridge (total 21), are they breaking the rules ?

This is the debate...

A few examples of what is legal and what is not would be good to see coming from DPI....

Perhaps I missed something critical in my research or understanding.

For those of you more cognitively competent than I, please shed some light....

Tony

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thanks for the comments guy's and clearing up a few issue's and querie's that some people may have had

Hi finallyOnline,

I hope u won't get offended to their comments but I just feel most of them have no intention to imply your characters (except some assholes in this forum). Most of the fishraiders here r very kind and helpful. They just become a bit "scholar" into this issue. U may also metion ppl in this forum are well educated and they just love to do researching works especially in fishing legislation. As long as u believe u have no intention to break the law and fish in good faith, I can't see any problem at all. The only ppl to be blamed are the regulators (NSW government) who always change the law or the rules which make everyone hard to follow. Cheers, Phil

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Hi finallyOnline,

I hope u won't get offended to their comments but I just feel most of them have no intention to imply your characters (except some assholes in this forum). Most of the fishraiders here r very kind and helpful. They just become a bit "scholar" into this issue. U may also metion ppl in this forum are well educated and they just love to do researching works especially in fishing legislation. As long as u believe u have no intention to break the law and fish in good faith, I can't see any problem at all. The only ppl to be blamed are the regulators (NSW government) who always change the law or the rules which make everyone hard to follow. Cheers, Phil

Very good comment,i most certainly agree with you macmac,i have been a member on f/r for nearly 3 year's and in that time i have gained new and insightful knowledge on certain topic's i was unsure of and have come to know that i can say MOST of the raider's here are very helpful and kind people but on the flipside you get some so called wannabe SCHOLAR'S that try policing certain issue's without having the faintest possible idea of what time of day it is(not knowing that the person that they are trying to school is well aware of the rule's and abide's by them 100 percent).Some asshole's cannot help themselve's and have to be heard no matter what they say.

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BUMP,i sense a bit of jealousy on your part and feel that you were implying that i am a greedy person and thats far from the truth,i was not over the bag limit and do not feel that i have to explain myself to you(you are not a moderator and i have spoken to the moderator on fishraider so wake up to yourself),didnt know you were part of the governing body of the DPI ........

Couple of points, not jealous they are squid when they're on they're on, my comment was in reference to people who are breaking the law as far as bag and possession limits go, if that doesn't apply to you then you aren't one of the greedy people i was referring to. I feel my post was relevant seeing as some people obviously aren't aware of possession limits judging by the other replies in the thread. As for being part of the DPI as far as i'm concerned the more people who are made aware of these laws the better, personally i'm not the type to just ignore people breaking these laws be they bag limits, possession limits or size limits (this is not a reference to you so please don't get offended again) If more people took an active role in informing others maybe there wouldn't be as many people keeping undersized or to many fish..

And Mods i fully understand that this will more than likely be deleted just like any other discussion about fishing regulations seems to be :05:

Ben

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Shall we bring this issue to the state court and file a case to define the "in possession"?

Hi Phil,

I don't think we need go as far as bringing issues to court, but seriously, a couple of examples here and there to illustrate the legislation's intention wouldn't go astray.

As for getting all scholarly, we have to do the research and understand the rules because we are bound by them.

We may have he best intentions and act in good faith and could still get stung....

Unfair really.

But we don't live in a perfect world.

We all do the best we can within the law and within our own moral standards, while still trying to have some fun......

It's a big balancing act...

Tony

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Very good comment,i most certainly agree with you macmac,i have been a member on f/r for nearly 3 year's and in that time i have gained new and insightful knowledge on certain topic's i was unsure of and have come to know that i can say MOST of the raider's here are very helpful and kind people but on the flipside you get some so called wannabe SCHOLAR'S that try policing certain issue's without having the faintest possible idea of what time of day it is(not knowing that the person that they are trying to school is well aware of the rule's and abide's by them 100 percent).Some asshole's cannot help themselve's and have to be heard no matter what they say.

Hi Finallyonline,

Can I ask who these 'flipside scholars' are, to which you refer in such colourful terms ?

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