warnie100 Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 Hi guys i have removed the trim and tilt rams and motor but the swivel pins holding the motor are seized in the upper positon the top one has a thread and a lock nut and there seems to be a nut in the housing ,and the lower one holding the bottom of what looks like two shock absorbers is held in by split pins theseare the two areas that are seized /rusted is there anyone who can tell me how to get these out i have sprayed wd40 tapped them ect but no go regards wayne
Guest Aussie007 Posted May 11, 2012 Posted May 11, 2012 can u post a picture? when doing repairs on outboards its handy to have a heating torch on hand i just purchased one for this reason
warnie100 Posted May 11, 2012 Author Posted May 11, 2012 can u post a picture? when doing repairs on outboards its handy to have a heating torch on hand i just purchased one for this reason will try to get some pics today and post thanks gazza
warnie100 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 can u post a picture? when doing repairs on outboards its handy to have a heating torch on hand i just purchased one for this reason
warnie100 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 can u post a picture? when doing repairs on outboards its handy to have a heating torch on hand i just purchased one for this reason hope this works here are some pics and any help would be appreciated thanks warnie
Guest Aussie007 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 u will need heat to remove that and probably a grinder
warnie100 Posted May 12, 2012 Author Posted May 12, 2012 thanks gazza will try to get a heatsource today and i guess once you remove the locknut it would tap out
Guest Aussie007 Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 when u heat it up spray wd40 over the rusted area it will suck the wd40 and help penetrate it
chrisg Posted May 12, 2012 Posted May 12, 2012 That looks to be a struggle anyway you look at it. If you can be bothered make up a jar of half auto transmission fluid and half acetone (see the chemist) and paint that around what you are trying to undo. To be honest WD40 and any "domestic" sprays wont' touch that level of corrosion. Think I'd be reaching for the grinder soon. C.
Guest Aussie007 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 That looks to be a struggle anyway you look at it. If you can be bothered make up a jar of half auto transmission fluid and half acetone (see the chemist) and paint that around what you are trying to undo. To be honest WD40 and any "domestic" sprays wont' touch that level of corrosion. Think I'd be reaching for the grinder soon. C. depends what hes trying to do to it if he wants to remove and keep the parts i would go to the local pool shop and buy a bottle of hydrochloric acid and paint it on than hose it off it will bring it up like new but the acid wont have any penetration if the part hes trying to remove is rusted inside the clamps or the part the bolt goes into
chrisg Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 That's where the mix comes in - the best penetrating fluid by a long shot.
warnie100 Posted May 13, 2012 Author Posted May 13, 2012 thanks guys will try the transmision and acetone but normal gas burner wont get enough heat in i tried today but will source someone with oxy thanks wayne
Guest Aussie007 Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 warnie u need more than one of those pencil butane torches a propane torch should do the trick with a 2.5cm tip or if u can get your hands on a oxy that would be the best but u need to be careful u dont melt the metal
a boat Posted May 13, 2012 Posted May 13, 2012 Hi, I doubt you will have much luck removing those tilt pins for the inetrnal shock absorbers so just cut the rams away-have done it many times and the engine will not know the difference. As for the tilt tube, if you are trying to get that out to replace it to make it works with thru tilt tube steering you will be better off to remove the outboard so that you can lay on the ground and get a solid surface to hit the tilt tube on, after off course getting an oxy and heating the transom brackets-and even then you will have to cut away the exposed part of the tilt tube. If you have the time and tools you will get it out and once doen, fit a new tilt tube, bushes and washers and back to new again after all these years, that looking at the photos seems to be an early 1970's engine. Cheers, Huey.
warnie100 Posted May 17, 2012 Author Posted May 17, 2012 thanks craig i have got them all out bar one of the shock tubes which wont budge when you say cut it away do you mean cut through the shockie and do away with all together and what are they there for regards wayne
a boat Posted May 17, 2012 Posted May 17, 2012 Hi, they were there back in the day to do what shock aborbers do and releive shock and in a perfect world you would remvoe both and replace both, but looking at the photos you did well to get one out and the cost of the two new parts would be worth more than that engine is worth so yes just cut the rod at either end and do away with it. Cheers, Huey.
warnie100 Posted May 17, 2012 Author Posted May 17, 2012 thankyou craig you are a champion its been worrying the crap out of me asto what i was going to have to do thanks again
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