Line twist

[lostproperty]

Hey guys maybe someone can help me out here.

When fishing for kings I'm using 30lb power pro braid with a running sinker, swivel and 50lb Fluro leader. Most of the time when soaking a squid bait the line just twists up and the Fluro is twisted around the braid, and probably the reason I'm not getting any hookups. Anyone have any ideas it seems the squid is floating causing the line to twist as this doesn't always happen with live baiting a yakka. Tried downsizing to 30lb leader and getting the same problem, I'm using an instinct swivel

[Spooooled]

what brand of fluro carbon are you using? and when retrieving your bait i found if the rod is not straight and your not retrieving slowly it will line twist as this use to happen to me

[user1829]

Hey guys maybe someone can help me out here.

When fishing for kings I'm using 30lb power pro braid with a running sinker, swivel and 50lb Fluro leader. Most of the time when soaking a squid bait the line just twists up and the Fluro is twisted around the braid, and probably the reason I'm not getting any hookups. Anyone have any ideas it seems the squid is floating causing the line to twist as this doesn't always happen with live baiting a yakka. Tried downsizing to 30lb leader and getting the same problem, I'm using an instinct swivel

how are you 'presenting' the squid, on one hook or two??

[A.dawg]

It's happens with some fluorocarbons I have used a few yak brands in the heavier classes as well as FC rock in heavier classes cause tangles. I now use nitlon or triumph traces when it comes to kings and mono. Black magic for Jews I don't think u need fluro for Jews they aren't too fussy about line they are more fussy about bait

[10460475]

Hey mate,

with squid, if you dont rig it perfectly they spin, even strips. You have to pin it directly in the centre as close to the end of the strip or cone as you can , always check on the surface before you drop it down.

Spinning squids dont catch fish,

dave

[lostproperty]

I think I need to rig it better from the sound of things, using a single 5/0 hook mostly, sometimes 4/0

[Benzeenees]

I've tried a few different rigs. But first, what depth are you fishing in?

[lostproperty]

Sometimes 20-30m sometimes 10, depth doesn't make a difference.

[Nolongeramember]

Hey guys maybe someone can help me out here.

When fishing for kings I'm using 30lb power pro braid with a running sinker, swivel and 50lb Fluro leader. Most of the time when soaking a squid bait the line just twists up and the Fluro is twisted around the braid, and probably the reason I'm not getting any hookups. Anyone have any ideas it seems the squid is floating causing the line to twist as this doesn't always happen with live baiting a yakka. Tried downsizing to 30lb leader and getting the same problem, I'm using an instinct swivel

Hi. Sounds like either the swivel isnt doing its job or the leader is not actually twisting but is curling up on itself. Make sure it doesnt have a memory of curls or loops before you put it out. You may have to stretch it straight a little first or get a different leader.

Also. Try a different good quality ball bearing swivel if in doubt and make sure its the correct size to suit the line. I use something rated just over the breaking strain of the line. If the swivel is too large the line wont be able to spin it.

Edited June 1, 2012 by Roylo

[lostproperty]

Swivels might be overrated I think 70lb but I can never tie up to the smaller ones haha so I just go with the bigger ones, I thought instinct were a pretty good brand? Anyway cheers for all the tips I'll see how I go tomorrow !

[Benzeenees]

The rig I use gets twisted occasionally - especially with an active live bait on board. But mostly it doesn't get twisted.

Fit one of those red plastic running thingos with a clip attached (one brand is called a platinum easy rig) to your braid then tie a loop about 15cm long at the end of the braid using a surgeon's loop. Now attach a strong snap swivel to the loop using an offshore swivel knot.

Attach a snapper sinker to the snap on the plastic slider/snap using a rubber band or a loop of mono. Attach your leader with hooks attached to the snap swivel. Now put you bait on the hook(s) and away you go.

Edited June 1, 2012 by Benzeenees

[lostproperty]

I think one possibility is the sinker I am using and the swivel combination, the swivel is sitting partially inside the sinker and preventing it from working properly so I will try rig it up with a bead in between the sinker and the swivel and see if that helps.

[Nolongeramember]

Another tip is when dropping your bait, take note of the current direction and make sure you encourage the bait to be infront of sinker before you feed it out. That way it stays like that and the bait doesnt have to pass past the sinker risking getting tangled. Does that make sense? lol

If your casting there isnt much you can do but I like to keep an eye on the rig as it hits the water and give it a pull as it sinks to lessen the chance of fouling up.

Think about the current direction and what is happening under the water with your bait, sinker and leader will help you decide what you should be doing when casting or letting out the bait. Hope this help you out

Edited June 6, 2012 by Roylo

[Jewhunter]

Try shortening down your leader as well.

In alot of tidal run or surge off the beach I've found this helps.

I try to use a variety of snapper sinkers when live baiting.

I then use a big snap swivel running above the main swivel.

You can use a bead between the 2 if you want.

This rig allows me to quickly & easily change sinker weights

& helps eliminate the leader wrapping in the braid.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Grant.

[lostproperty]

I have paternoster style rigs and they don't twist, I even tie 8lb fluro to the bottom of the hook and ran a small sinker off the bottom of that and that stopped it twisting, it only ever happens when I drop down off the boat with squid, never happens with yakkas usually. If I cast from the boat I don't normally get twisted, but if I'm ontop of a school of fish the last thing I Wana do is cast away from them haha