Yobbos

[damariboyz]

Is it just me or did anybody else find the comments of Leeanne Payne in Saturdays Telegragh [ PAGE 114] dissapointing. I will refrain from using the type of text that I would like to here and stick to the rules. The bloody nerve of this woman to refer to me as, and I quote,

"the flyfisherman's attitude seems different to the yobbo's who catch, fillet, kill, slaughter, maim and destroy whatever they can" unquote.

How dare you Miss/Mrs Payne refer to me as a yobbo, whom according to you, survives on a much lower level than your self-centred higher than bloody mighty opinionated arrogant self. I am proud of my catch and release tactics and the way in which I have provided my 3 boy's with the same qualities and respect for their chosen sport. I am also proud of the fact that I do keep the odd fish for the table. But please, if I am wrong and it is not my god given right to keep 1 or 2 fish for home please, let me know and I will apologize. I hope you dont eat fish Leeanne, but if you do please forgive the poor Yobbo that caught it on your behalf. One last thing, you to might also want to fillet your fish in future, I could'nt bear the thought that one day you might choke on it. I will reluctently leave it at that.

Russell and the Damariboyz, Daniel, Matthew, Riley

Edited July 24, 2005 by damariboyz

[Ken A]

All I will say is that I flyfish & I do kill / fillet & eat some of my flyfishing captures as do plenty of fly fisherman. I also release plenty as well.

I'm a yobbo then & proud of it.

[Guest iain]

Well according to this criteria I'm a yobbo too!!

Didn't read the article so I can't claim to have read this in context but if she serously said that, the mole should pull her head in.

It's certainly a prime example of misdirected criticism. A single trawler will destroy thousands of fish as 'bycatch' yet this 'holier than thou' mullet will criticise fellow rec anglers for taking a feed of fish home on the odd occasion we're luck enough to catch something worthwhile.

How about channeling your anger to the real issues threatening the fishery?

I'll have a look for the article now. If anyone has a copy can you post it please!!

Cheers,

Iain

[Hooky.]

My name is Hooky and I'm a yobbo!!!

Mind you, I don't "slaughter, maim and destroy whatever I can", although carp are a different story.

[damariboyz]

Well according to this criteria I'm a yobbo too!!

Didn't read the article so I can't claim to have read this in context but if she serously said that, the mole should pull her head in.

It's certainly a prime example of misdirected criticism. A single trawler will destroy thousands of fish as 'bycatch' yet this 'holier than thou' mullet will criticise fellow rec anglers for taking a feed of fish home on the odd occasion we're luck enough to catch something worthwhile.

How about channeling your anger to the real issues threatening the fishery?

I'll have a look for the article now. If anyone has a copy can you post it please!!

Cheers,

Iain

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iain if you give me a fax number Ill send it to you, I kept it.

[harold]

yobbo@fishraider.com.au

love it!

[matty]

id have to say im a yobbo too.

i cant get a copy of it can i?

[Bashir]

So you guys say you are all yobbos?? Do you all slaughter, maim and destroy whatever you can, if so then shame shame shame. I keep most of my catch for a feed, but if a yobbo is what she describes, then cross me off that list.

[damariboyz]

id have to say im a yobbo too.

i cant get a copy of it can i?

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Matty send me a fax number and ill get it to ya.

Russ

[Martin]

It’s her way of calling out for help.

I'm sure she has researched her topic, in depth, looked at the positives and negatives, considered to economic, social and political out fall of such vilification, slept on it over night, consulted some colleagues and authorities on the topic all before careful structuring her editorial to inform and educate.

Let the B..ch wallow in the depths of her ominous ignorance. May a thousand camels give birth in her bed.

Cheers

Martin PhD ESF (Environmentally Sustainable Fishing)

[Lightweight]

I'm sure she has researched her topic

I highly doubt it

She does work for the Telegraph there is no such thing as "research" when you work for them... that is arguably the biggest excuse for thinly veiled "news" that we know of in this country. I have a very simple solution... and it involves never buying that paper again...

LW

[Hooch]

She keeps a few fish for the table, I haven't seen that article buts she's just saying that there are 'yobbos' who kill and grill every damn thing or close to it that they pull out of the water. Fair enough point really.

It's probably true that a lot of fly fishos put back more than the average old prawn on a blunt hook angler, but that'd just be because by the time you're fly fishing you're generally a comitted sport fisho anyway and aren't out there for a feed everytime you go out, not because of the genetic superiority of fly fishos or anything

[Martin]

She has a point, and leads by setting a fine example why cousins from Tasmania should not marry.

Those fishermen who catch fish, fillet them and eat them should never feel any form of embarrassment or guilt. After all that is usually the intended out come to get a feed of fish and nothing wrong with that? I am one of those who like to catch fish and likes to eat fish. (Unfortunately fried and with chips) I'm into harvest and release salads.

I think her credibility would have been better served from an article on further educating the general public about, introduced foreign species of sea grasses, shells and fish from the ballast of ships that enter our waters, or commercial netting methods that rip up the ocean floor with drag nets, may even an article on the amount of bi catch, which is dead when tossed over the side or how entire schools of fish such as tuna with specific school genetic DNA can be wiped out in its entirety.

She does not hold the intellect to state the obvious in that it is not in our own best interest to turn a blind eye to fellow fisherman when we see and know they are flaunting the rules, law and general code of ethics we fish by. Blinded by her own ignorance she is unable to see merit in the fact that recreational fisherman and fisherwoman were the innovators in commencing fish tagging programmes or that the recreational fishing person is not for profit, different motivation in that we don't need to return a profit back to our shareholders. Unlike her.

Clearly she has self-serving interests to earn a pay cheque through emotional editorial, certainly not by a sustainable resource to enjoy.

The up side is, sites like this bring individuals together and where there are numbers there is always a voice. The Yobbo she talks of I believe is fewer and further between today than in the past. As individuals, we are today better educated and more aware of biodiversity all round. Many of us on this site are unintentionally being a watchdog on fellow fisherman, which is not a bad thing.

I fished with my father and now my son and daughter fish with their father and so it goes on, I hope.

I will now step down from my soapbox.

[Warpig]

Extremely offensive.

I flyfish: how dare this woman insinuate that I'm NOT a yobbo!

[Guest Jocool]

My name is Hooky and I'm a yobbo!!!

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My name is Joe...and I'm a yobbo too! You only have to see my new hair cut to know I'm a yobb!

Speaking of Yobbos....My Falcon has a YOBBO CAMS sticker on the rear window!

[xavdav]

That's what I feared: flyfishers are w@nkers. I am going to burn all my fly gear and become a total yobbo

[BuckWild]

Can't believe people who bite the hand that feeds them.  Stupid woman.  I shall not read any more of her articles but unfortunately I cannot stop myself from checking out pictures of her in a bikini 

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Pedro are you sure your not mistaking her for Kim Bain?!?

[Guest fishrunner]

mmmmm kim bain in a bikini , and very good fisherwoman and writer. As for leeanne Payne well she falls short in most of the above catorgories(in my mind anyway).

brad

[bombora]

Ahhhhh, so tempted to bite! Bugger, I will. No, we don't employ editors etc to "spice up" copy. No, we don't "employ" Leanne Payne, she was interviewed for a story. Yes we publish a variety of opinions. Just as Fishraider does. Whether you agree with em or don't, well tough luck. At least you have widened your knowledge of an oppossing point of view etc. As far as publishing unresearched crap, well Lightweight maybe you should visit another fishing site where Steve Starling as an aside to another issue reveals the "several weeks" of research and cross checking and probing which went into the several stories on pros buying back disused fishing licences. Normally have a thick skin about stuff like this and every publicatin deserves criticism to keep it on its toes but sometimes gotta bite when the criticism is ill-informed. Personally I've always thought some rope throwers had an elitist attitude but enjoy their explanations of why its "better" than other fishing. Cheers Bombie

[Hooky.]

The meaning of a Yobba:

"In Australia, yobs, or yobbos, predominately are beer swilling, potbellied Australians who swear while watching sport on the telly with their mates. The typical norm sort of character."

Hmmm, either way I'm still a Yobbo.

[Ken A]

Bommie any chance of publishing some of my opinions ? They are sure to spark a bit of controversy as they have done in the past I have the scars to prove it but the bruises have faded

[bombora]

No worries Ken, as long as you don't mind em being rewritten or finessed a bit by a couple of our re-write specialists, including A. Hitler, J. Stalin and C. Manson. Reasonable, down to earth individuals all Cheers and sorry for the spit, second day back from hols always has me in a crook mood. Ps Ken, charge the local paper for using your pix!!!!!

[Ken A]

Spit away mate spit away