puregeek Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Thinking of getting a seaswirl 2101 wa, however ive been reading about these towing restrictions. A dealer told me that its only 4cm over each way and i dont really have to put the oversize sign and flags and lights on it. Is this true? Spoke to the RTA (3 people) and got 3 different answers. Does anyone own one or something similar thats over the 2.5m wide mark and tow it without signs and flags. Edited July 16, 2013 by puregeek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchin Jack Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 A load must not project more than 150 mm beyond the trailer’s width or be more than 2.5m overall width, which ever is less. The above is the law regarding trailers in NSW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Hi, as posted by Leo, anything over 2.50M will need not only flags etc but will have limited times you can tow and need permits. It is a real pain and a lot of US boats come under this and yes I bet the "dealer" told you this but if you have an accident you will not be insured unless you do what is required and there will be fines at ramps too, so ask this dealer if he will pay any fines. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puregeek Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 Rta cleared it up. Needs signs and flags. And limited roads at certain times which is not bad for me because i can access my waterway without getting onto any of the roads they mention. Does anyone own a 2101 that can comment about ride and overall quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testlab Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 So now all you have to do is talk to your insurance company and find out if they will cover you. Two years ago when I did the same thing they refused to cover the motor vehicle, the boat and any third party damage when towing an oversize load. The coverage had to be arranged through commercial public liability and commercial carriers insurance. I spoke to all the majors and several brokers and none of them would cover the car or boat while towing as part of a normal policy. The managers i spoke to at GIO and QBE both pointed out to me if I did tow it without informing them of the risk I had failed my duty of disclosure. Note it wasn't just the boat that wasn't insured it was also the tow vehicle too and damage to anything or anyone else. The boats I wound up importing could not be trailered anyway so for me it didn't matter in the end. Maybe now they have a different attitude but check carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puregeek Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I spoke to clubmarine about it. They said it was ok as long as i complied with the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Testlab Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) That might cover damage to the boat itself but it's your motor vehicle insurance you need to check.This is what I mean, see page 22 item 3 of the Club Marine PDS. All boat insurance policies say much the same thing, when the boat is being towed they cover damage to the boat but nothing else (that's covered by the car policy). CLUB MARINE LINK Edited July 14, 2013 by Catchin Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted July 14, 2013 Share Posted July 14, 2013 Hi, +1 to what Testlab said and Club marine only covers the boat and I know of people who have had accidents on the road and insurance companies have used any loophole to refuse cover. I would get it in writing if I was going to tow an oversize boat on our roads that is will be covered if you have an accident, even for a short distance. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puregeek Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Thanks for the input guys, dropped that idea... more trouble than its worth i guess. Have focused my attention on a cruisecraft 625 outsider. Good offshore boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi, CC are good offshore boats, they tend to run a bit harder than some other boats on the nose but they are stable, which is always the trade off-you can not get a mono hull that offers the best ride in rough water and the best stability. They are very well made boats with fit and finish among the best in the industry and I like the 625 OS very much so if you find a good second hand one and it is priced right I would give it serious thought-just be aware of the BMT weight rating and make sure the trailer is legal-I have seen a fair few 625OS that are illegal. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puregeek Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yeah boat im looking at has electric over hydrolic so she should be legal. I am however trying to get info on the weight of the hull. Cant seem to find it anywhere on the internet. And im getting different info with BMT weight. Website says 2.3t but others say 2t or even under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a boat Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hi, yes CC never list the hull only weight, not really sure why but trust me a CC 625OS with good enough HP and good trailer will be over the 2T wet so make sure you buy one with electric override brakes and give them a good inspection because work on electric braked trailers add up VERY quickly and factor in the yearly costs to get them serviced and passed for regos-even more so if you take the easy way out and dunk the trailer when launching and retrieving the boat. Cheers, Huey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frantic Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 yep friend has a 685 explorer with a 250 on it ,tows it with a landcruiser tt v8 , had the trailer serviced last year and it was about 4k ,id think with full fuel,gear have to be near 3 t , absolute ripper hardcore bluewater weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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