Camo1808 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Hey everyone. Me and a fishing mate are now going to start targeting tailor for something different. We never have fished for this species nor no nothing about them. Was wondering if anyone has any advice what so ever on these fish ie rigs, baits, combos, even rough areas so central coast beaches or estuary systems to target them. Also at night or day what tides. Everything and everything. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 (edited) If you're going off the beach, 3 x 4/0 gang hooks on a 30lb leader up to a swivel, with a 1oz ball sinker. Use WA Pilchards or Garfish for bait. Go for the gutters holes and rips, places where the deep water meets the shallow. If you see someone nearby get one, get ready....They're here. They move from place to place, so be prepared to move until you find them. Bleed the keepers into the bait bucket to enhance the appeal. Fresh tailor strips will work as bait for more tailor, or a slab on a big hook for a Jewie Edited June 24, 2014 by Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo1808 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Beauty. Thanks mate. How do I get tailor strips if I don't catch tailor? Also where would you recommend. Area wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 You won't see tailor for sale.It doesn't last, doesn't freeze. You have to get them . Try Nth Entrance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo1808 Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Excellent. Absolut champ. Is night preffered? Does tides and moods matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Around sunrise or sunset. I prefer run up to the high or high tide. The afternoon is more comfortable, and who know what you might snag later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Bleed the keepers into the bait bucket to enhance the appeal. Nice tip... so obvious when you think about it but I didn't did I! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nas Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I've usually caught tailor around the tide change and mostly at night, but also in the day, almost any NSW beach can produce (if they are there). I've seen people fishing for tailor using a glowing float, however, I haven't tried this maybe you can do some research about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camo1808 Posted June 25, 2014 Author Share Posted June 25, 2014 Thanks for all your help guys. Ill be out this weekend obviously if weather prevails and ill keep you all posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam bros Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 yep good info there just to add spinning lures during the day off the beach can produce tailor as well, it may worth a try when bait fails i mainly fish with bait though and i find it best when the high tide meets sunset also if the tailor aren't there, the salmon usually are especially now that its winter basically any beach will often hold tailor as long as there is a nice gutter there. Also i found that when the surf is more rough, you usually catch more as the waves/swell provide more cover hope this helps cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) yep good info there just to add spinning lures during the day off the beach can produce tailor as well, it may worth a try when bait fails i mainly fish with bait though and i find it best when the high tide meets sunset also if the tailor aren't there, the salmon usually are especially now that its winter basically any beach will often hold tailor as long as there is a nice gutter there. Also i found that when the surf is more rough, you usually catch more as the waves/swell provide more cover hope this helps cheers This is spot on info, especially about high tide coming into dark. I usually use metals in different sizes and work different depths until I find them but if your into plastics, use the z-mans as the Tailor don't destroy them as easily as other plastics. Have a look at my report from Stockton, all those Tailor and Salmon were caught using a cheap old 40g Surecatch metal. Good luck Camo. Edited June 25, 2014 by Dave_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incredible Hull Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Hey everyone. Me and a fishing mate are now going to start targeting tailor for something different. We never have fished for this species nor no nothing about them. Was wondering if anyone has any advice what so ever on these fish ie rigs, baits, combos, even rough areas so central coast beaches or estuary systems to target them. Also at night or day what tides. Everything and everything. Cheers As most have mentioned 3/0 gang hooks on whole Pillies. Can get them anywhere on the coast, night time is probably best. In the last couple of weeks, I've seen lots of very big green backs been caught, and even caught myself a PB 2 weeks ago, it went 52cm. Now is the time so get out there and good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnmn8r Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 You won't see tailor for sale.It doesn't last, doesn't freeze. You have to get them . Try Nth Entrance . It doesn't freeze? I've got one sitting in the freezer atm, should I just use that as bait then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 It doesn't freeze? I've got one sitting in the freezer atm, should I just use that as bait then? I think what he means is the flesh of the Tailor deteriorates rapidly after freezing. Also, if you plan to use it for Jew bait, fresh is always best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam bros Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 the fresher the better for the jewies and once you try and thaw out frozen tailor, it just isn't the same anymore for eating or bait you'll know what i mean when you use your tailor fillets cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witha Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Just to add in: caught quite a few decent tailor rapidly retrieving blades. Is the process the same for spinning metals? Just chuck it out let it sink and wind in? Is that the same process you would use for salmon? Love winter beach fishing Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LungFai Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Tailors will chase/take metals spun on the surface, don't need to let it sink. When they are on the chew they'll take any metal, when they are finicky you need to change up your retrieve to mimic a fleeing injured bait fish and they'll usually bite. Best spin session i have had with the choppers was at night. People were pilly ganging them and they were pop popping the surface smashing bait fish. Why waste bait i thought, so i threw on the metal and spun in fish after fish while the other peeps frantically tried to re-bait. I was pulling in 3 fish to their 1 at 10pm at night with only the breakwall light to illuminate the place. Amazing how quick a pair of long nose pliers de-hooks a fish from your lure to be cast out again into the frenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneyfisher12 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 I find when fishing land based the tailor come on and off the bite very quickly I was once at Jervis bay fishing the inlet near huskinson with a 5inch jerk shad in white and also a squidige paddle tail in a blue clear colour and all of a sudden I got a tailor put out a cast and landed another three then they went completely off the bite I was casting for an hour and didn't catch one more they were all around 40cm and I could see the massive school of them My favourite lure for them is a 10g halco twisty and if trolling i find the halco red head in 2-2.5m works really well I like small metals way better for all pelagics a great spot to try is on the point on north head in the wash zone but be careful is can get very rough there tailor love wash that goes further out from the rocks and off the beach the bigger the waves the more tailor Cheers sydneyfisher12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_ Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Yep, the Gold Halco Twistys are dynamite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witha Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Awesome posts guys really informative my new goal is big tailor and salmon this winter and this definitely has put me on the right track Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinfisher 4.9 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Hi LungFai, one thing to consider is that those other guys with their pillies were actually keeping the tailor there, due to the pieces of pilchard that fall off and is natural burley. When you have a number of bait fishermen together the tailor can stay for a long time. With a number of of people using lures the tailor will frequently move on. So those other people were possibly doing you a favour and you catching 3 to 1 is not the point, with respect. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) When I'm fishing alone, and get on to a school of tailor, and the guys down the beach aren't getting any, I call them over. The more bait in the water, the more action. More action brings more action. I called two pommie tourists, fishing the beach, they had pillies getting nothing. They came up to my spot and got their first second third.......fish The school hung around for an hour or so, while they were still chucking pillies, I sent out the big baits. I used them as berley Edited June 27, 2014 by Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Aussie007 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 the entrance on the central coast is like a haven for tailor there not very big but plenty of them in huge schools usually feeding under the bridges lights on sunset, we were using very tiny metal lures about 20-25mm long i wont give u an exact location as i have before another member went there and caught nothing than complained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam bros Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Tailors will chase/take metals spun on the surface, don't need to let it sink. When they are on the chew they'll take any metal, when they are finicky you need to change up your retrieve to mimic a fleeing injured bait fish and they'll usually bite. Best spin session i have had with the choppers was at night. People were pilly ganging them and they were pop popping the surface smashing bait fish. Why waste bait i thought, so i threw on the metal and spun in fish after fish while the other peeps frantically tried to re-bait. I was pulling in 3 fish to their 1 at 10pm at night with only the breakwall light to illuminate the place. Amazing how quick a pair of long nose pliers de-hooks a fish from your lure to be cast out again into the frenzy Hey mate Never caught them at night with lures how effective are lures at night? i thought they needed more light to actually see the lure or is the vibrations caused by the lure enough? cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LungFai Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Hi LungFai, one thing to consider is that those other guys with their pillies were actually keeping the tailor there, due to the pieces of pilchard that fall off and is natural burley. When you have a number of bait fishermen together the tailor can stay for a long time. With a number of of people using lures the tailor will frequently move on. So those other people were possibly doing you a favour and you catching 3 to 1 is not the point, with respect. Steve Hi Twinfisher, The Tailor were there because of the bait fish that swarmed to my burley bucket and instead of wasting more pilchards to the tailors i switched to the metals. The guys on the ganged pilchards only started actively casting their floated baits out when they noticed me pulling in fish after fish (I fish on a ledge closer to the water out of sight from the guys up top on the breakwall who were just leaving floated pillies out waiting for the fish to come in but they were casting over the action i had stirred up below). Southern Port Kembla Breakwall if you are thinking of which breakwall, well lit with lights bright enough for the tankers to be lit up when they cruise by so tailors stick around for alot longer due to the visability. Hey mate Never caught them at night with lures how effective are lures at night? i thought they needed more light to actually see the lure or is the vibrations caused by the lure enough? cheers Hiya Sam, Yeah they need heaps of light. I spun for them at a breakwall down in Port Kembla where massive tankers enter so the lights there need to be super bright. When fishing there can see the colour of the fish well before you have it within netting/lifting/gaffing distance. Great place but limited spots and the Rats there are capable of dragging away your catch if you don't keep an eye on them. I've tried spinning for Tailor at bridges and wharfs with the lights they have there with no success even though the tailors were on the chew. Regards Trung Edited July 1, 2014 by LungFai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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