Ryder Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Hi Raiders, I'd been losing heaps of fish because of dodgy leader, it was tested and replaced. Today I got to test it out for a short session. The fish were there, but not taking the float all the way down. So I shortened 6 inches. Next drift, good down, pulled the hook. Then another good down with no hookup. Finally I got on to a fish, the leader held, and I played him out to the net. A fat high 30s fish. I follow it up with 3 more, one undersized, which was immediately returned. I failed set the hook on a few fish, I put it down to the hook size. I lost my last good hooks with all the broken leaders from the last few trips, and I only have hooks that are smaller than my usual. It's nice to be back in business. Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtBundy Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Did you go to a new brand or just replace what you had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossfire63 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Mate I got hold of some Seaguar leader a coupe of weeks ago for chasing bream and whiting. Works a treat, very supple and great knot strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 They replaced it with the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burger Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 That bottom fish does look like a nice little fatty! Glad you got he leader sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 What sort of leader do you use that is so special ? You may be over complicating something that is pretty simple or did you just have a bad batch of mono ? Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 It was a bad batch of FC Rock 6lb. I run it from the swivel to the hook. I wasnt using any lead on the leader, I rarely do maybe one shot above the hook if the current strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Although I don't have any science to back it up, I don't think fluorocarbon improves your catch rates for blackfish. The only time I've used it was a few years back after I started fishing for bream etc with lures and I was getting the line breaking at the knot went back to normal mono and problems ended. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryder Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 Using mono has been suggested, I had the FC from casting plastics, so I've been using it. I do run a 6 inch stretch of mono between swivels. I have changed to using an alvey TCS, at first with Dango using the side cast. Twisted line became an issue. Until I perfect the centrepin cast, I have been using braid, no twist but no stretch. I was probably asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtBundy Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I have the same 6lb Sunline Rock FC - it was pretty brittle for me as well and I had a lot of issues tying knots with it to begin with. Maybe I was just used to cheaper 10lb stuff and it is the lightest FC I have, but the 10lb and 15lb ones I had a lot less trouble with. The 15lb black magic has probably been my favourite so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austral Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I just use 6lb Schneider off the rocks. cheap and does the job no problems.. if the knot breaks it only my fault.lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yeah, braid floats well and some people prefer it, but I don't much see the point for blackfish when something like Dango is available. Sidecast is a nice idea and I used to use it on a blackfish special years ago when I got started on blackfish, but there really is no substitute for a good centrepin, but like you say, the casting can take a while to master. I cheat a little and use fairly heavy floats and cast directly off the spool, this is a good approach for me as I use the same floats for ocean or estuary, not everyones cup of tea, as many like to use really light estuary floats. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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