adamski Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Hey folks, Over the last couple of weeks I've been fishing a new stretch of the Cooks not too far from where I live. It's been reasonably productive few sessions with bream being taken out of the back of the snags and some little flatties here and there, as well as a couple of trevs a few weeks back. All the fish have been taken on Z-Mans with 1/12 and 1/8 jigheads. I've been watching a lot of trout fishing vids from the UK on youtube and the tips on reading the water and fishing rivers have proved quite useful. Here are a few pics- could anyone confirm if the darker of the bream is a black bream? Yet to find a deeper hole where something bigger might be lurking, but I thought about going further up and trying around Canterbury. Has anyone ever fished that far up before? Does anyone know at what point you'd start to see freshwater species in the river (one of my NY resolutions was to get a freshwater species)? I also took the girlfriend out plastics fishing around Iron Cove, but didn't manage to get her onto a fish as we had to call it a day early because of the rain. On the plus side, she seems keen to go again and she was getting some really good distance on her casts, sure it won't be long til she's out-fishing me I'll be out hitting the eastern suburbs in the hope of something a bit bigger this weekend. Thanks for reading, Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_tate Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Those all look like Yellowtail Bream to me. Black Bream (aka Ludrick) have quite pronounced dark near vertical stripes. Bream will change colour somewhat depending on the locale - surf fish very silver and clean, river fish darker. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbdshroom Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Nice one Adam, I also think its a yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Thanks gents. I was just a bit surprised as I'd never caught one quite as dark as that before. Is there a definite way to tell the difference between the two? Tastee, I always thought luderick were blackfish, but I saw in Queensland and certain other parts of Australia that the name is also used for black bream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4myson Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) Those all look like Yellowtail Bream to me. Black Bream (aka Ludrick) have quite pronounced dark near vertical stripes. Bream will change colour somewhat depending on the locale - surf fish very silver and clean, river fish darker. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I think you might be referring to Black Fish as ( aka Ludrick ) Black bream on the other hand are found more down South also known as the Southern Black Bream . All Yellow fin bream are known to have a Large Yellow first anal spine which you can clearly see in the photos while the Black Bream don't . Edited August 28, 2015 by 4myson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad_tate Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I am a Queenslander so am used to referring to Luderick as Black Bream. Happy to be corrected as Blackfish however. I am not familiar with Southern Black Bream so will defer to our experts. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4myson Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I am a Queenslander so am used to referring to Luderick as Black Bream. Happy to be corrected as Blackfish however. I am not familiar with Southern Black Bream so will defer to our experts. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Bloody Queenslanders ( just kiddin Tastee) I never knew you guys refer them as Ludrick .... What else you guys do Ass About up there ??? (You can tell I'm still Crying about the ORIGIN loss ) .... LOL ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydneyfisher12 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 nice work mate some good bream i've been chasing jews in the cooks for the last 4 weeks nothing except a lot of by catch I've heard of black bream in the cooks so it could be one but I'm no expert cheers sydneyfisher12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragmeister Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Good haul Adam, you seem to have really honed your skills over the last 12 months. And how's that Cooks river... What a productive ( if not radioactive) little waterway that is Cheers Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 nice work mate some good bream i've been chasing jews in the cooks for the last 4 weeks nothing except a lot of by catch I've heard of black bream in the cooks so it could be one but I'm no expert cheers sydneyfisher12 Cheers Seamus, sure the jewie won't be long in coming. Good haul Adam, you seem to have really honed your skills over the last 12 months. And how's that Cooks river... What a productive ( if not radioactive) little waterway that is Cheers Jim Thanks Jim, yup every time I finish fishing there I always check to make sure I haven't sprouted an extra digit or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witha Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Killing it as usual man! Great brace of fish there, gotta love our faithful smelly old river haha. Good condition on those bream too. They are indeed yellow fin, the thick anal spine is the give away, that dark one is definitely an upriver resident though! Usually they're much closer to the silver specimens! Keep it up! Have to join you again soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Killing it as usual man! Great brace of fish there, gotta love our faithful smelly old river haha. Good condition on those bream too. They are indeed yellow fin, the thick anal spine is the give away, that dark one is definitely an upriver resident though! Usually they're much closer to the silver specimens! Keep it up! Have to join you again soon Cheers dude, thanks for the info too- guess I'll be checking out anal spines on all my future dark-coloured bream Be good to get out for a fish soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pafisho08 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 HI Adam I have lure fished the Cooks a few times over the past years and found some surprise catches --Bream -Flatties -Flounder -Trevs -Whiting - Blackfish -Jew- Mullet- & 1 EP .The area I fished is from Earlwood up stream past Beaman Park Good Luck . Regds Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambrose607 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 A few years back i was on the train. Where the line goes over the cooks near the racecourse at Canterbury there was a dead shark lying in the silt at low tide. Don't know what kind but it was aabout 2ft long. Obviously didn't agree with the toxins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamski Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Had another flick in the same area yesterday for a couple more fish. Witha joined me later, it was good to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefisherman6784 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I've also been fishing the cooks for Jews with Seamus for the last 4 weeks Whole heap of by catch, been smoked a couple times (due to light gear) and came back with jewwy scales on the hook twice Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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