GoingFishing Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 G'day Raiders I've been pondering a question lately as I've spent more time thinking about fishing than actually doing any fishing ( work + family commitments) Last time I went fishing I ended up getting rather desperate and frustrated at my lack of success and I moved around a fair bit. I ended the day with a donut. Later, I pondered about wether I moved about prematurely before my burley could take effect. So I'm looking for some advice on " how long before it's time to move" and any factors one would consider in this formula. does the depth your fishing have any impact on how long your burley takes to kick in ? Also iv realised that sometimes the direction of the boat doesn't necessarily cooperate with the direction of the water movement deeper . Ie casting to the rear you end up with baits infront of the boat, is there any way to overcome this ? Thanks for reading
GoingFishing Posted September 20, 2015 Author Posted September 20, 2015 Ps- forgot to say I spent about 20-30 mins at each spot before moving .
Krispy ! Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 Since I fish unweighted and light line I always throw my bait where im burleying, the current does the rest, it always ends up where the burley is going, in terms of waiting, im generally pretty confident in my spots being productive so I wait till the tide change etc, since im not in a boat I don't have the luxury of moving spots if somewhere is dead lol
rockfisherman Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 If I had a constant burley trail going for half an hour, and nothing happens in the next 15-20 minutes I'm outa there. Harry
spaners Posted September 21, 2015 Posted September 21, 2015 I think it depends on what you are chasing.If im chasing Bream/Pigs in the white water I would only git 15 mins then move on,but if im chasing Snapper I will wait and cube for a couple of hours.If its Jews I would wait hrs and hrs and hrs.
SgtBundy Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 I fish land based and often ponder the same thing. I have taken to burleying a lot more than I used to so now I am reluctant to move and leave that effort behind, but I guess if it wasnt working in the first place I am not losing much. Usually I hit a spot with a window in mind - for example fishing around a high tide or through the evening, then I will usually go to and over that target by a an hour or two, and if I have time left I might try somewhere else on the next tide window or just to keep going. I have found especially tide changes the fortunes of a spot can change dramatically for a period, so I aim to hang and around and find out. The biggest hassle is finding a new spot anyway - some times I have left a spot and then found others are packed or just simply not suitable for some reason. The other aspect is burning time and fuel relocating when I usually don't have the time available to do so. I often see boats jetting around and wish I had that freedom - sometime soon maybe.... In my limited experience - pick a target, pick a window, work it through and consolidate what you learn for next time.
Twinfisher 4.9 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 If you think you have a good spot, burley and burley more and stick it out - I would give it 2 hours. Especially if you are there at a turn of tide, Fishing is about patience......
Mike89 Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) I've also been burleying a lot more than I did previously. Sometimes it takes a good deal of time before the bites start to happen, so for me I generally stick around for an hour at least after a good steady burley and longer if there is a tidal change approaching. Other times a heavy burley will get me just a single bite and then nothing - I guess the fish are there but aren't so keen. And others, just plain nothing. I'd wait at least an hour I think before deciding it isn't happening. For Sgt. Buddy - I used to drive around and around looking for a hot spot to fish at too. One day I was out all day - from X to Y to Z back to Y then over to check X again etc. I caught nothing but a small rock cod and a couple of tiny squire. Now I tend to fish shorter sessions on a window like yourself at a single location. It means I'm not so tired at the end of it all (and can go out again in the next few days!) and waste less time. I also find myself more content to accept that if nothing is biting that it's not the day and just head home. We'll be boaties one day! Edited September 23, 2015 by Mike89
SgtBundy Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Same - I usually only relocate now if I have say a full day and after a few hours at a spot it is clearly dead. Usually I do like a 4 hour window and go to a spot and work it. Its murphys law though - spend a quiet day at Cliftons and see all the reports for the hacking when you get home - travel down to the hacking next time and hear about kings and bonito smashing up cliftons. Will work it out one day
fragmeister Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) I have to say that my immediate reaction to this question was entirely wrong. You see my wife is a Relationship Councillor who sometimes deals with relationships that end. When I read "How long before you move on" my head was entirely in the wrong space. I thought the post was going to be about " I am sooooooooo over you" LOL Anyway, after taking a few trips with guides in the harbour a few years ago I would say it depends to some degree on the special and the reliability of the spot you are fishing. I see one particular guide quite a lot because I fish during the week and there are less boats so he is easy to pick out or perhaps he doesn't run tours on the weekend. If chasing Kings in the harbour the guide will move around the various markers in the harbour until he locates the kings just by prospecting at each marker. He drops a live squid down a 5 meters at Wedding Cakes for example and if he drifts pasts three times with no takers then the kings are probably not there so he so he moves on to another marker and repeats the process. Other species he anchors up for (jewies and salmon when they are down deep) but rarely spends more than an hour and a half or so before moving on. This could be at any of the very well known harbour spots but North Head and a few of the wrecks are common haunt. So, my general strategy is to move about if I am fishing for Kings in the Harbour but if was fishing a known producer like Sow & Pigs I would stay there until the burley brought the fish around. I have to say though that is rarely more than half an hour and I can't remember when it didn't work although with varying success (but always a feed). I think if I was land based though I would be picking peak fishing times and I would not be inclined to move so Sgt Bundy's 4 hour window would be a pretty sensible approach I think. Cheers Jim Edited September 23, 2015 by fragmeister
mrsswordfisherman Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Smiling here Jim. If there were a large contingent of ladies on here we would have to have a section on the forum for that issue no doubt
Yowie Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 I have to say that my immediate reaction to this question was entirely wrong. You see my wife is a Relationship Councillor who sometimes deals with relationships that end. When I read "How long before you move on" my head was entirely in the wrong space. I thought the post was going to be about " I am sooooooooo over you" LOL Jim Don't worry Jim, when I first saw the post, I thought it was about "kicking the bucket" or dying in the near future. I don't plan on going just yet.
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