Which Line And Backing?

[troutboy]

Gday all

I am just getting set up for flyfishing and have a few questions that im hoping some of you experienced fisherman could answer. I currently have a nitro innovator 6/7w rod and my father in law will be returning from thailand in a week or so with a 6 weight reel for me, although this set up could be a little heavy for my intended fishing purposes ( mostly fresh water trout fishing in the lakes of the blue mountains area) i opted for this combo as i would like to be able to use it in saltwater to catch salmon flahead and the like. Most of my fishing will be for trout so could someone please point me in the right direction as far as a floating line is concerned and also what should i be using as backing . Thanks all troutboy!

[yellow submarine]

I would go for a litlle bit of mono about a meter using a double uni knott to 30lb Fireline as backing the a nail knott to the fly line then using a fly loop to 25lb mono then whatever type of tippet . I attach my tippet using a lool knot to loop knot. This way I can change tippet depending on the type of fishing.

Warning I am still in the beggining stages of fly fishing. Hopefully see ya at the social at the goon on Sunday

Cheers

[Guest bluecod]

I was using a flyline loop to loop knot to attach a tippet, but have found the join to act as a hinge [as someone else has pointed out in an earlier post] resulting in the tippet losing inertia at the loop to loop and having poor presentation.

ATM I am much happier tying a stepped down tippet [30/15/6] joined with double uni knots and connected to the flyline loop with another uni.

For backing I'm using either 20 or 30 lb braided dacron [whichever is on hand when I spool up] but not less than 30 if I'm fishing bluewater.

[troutboy]

Many thanks guys there is some very useful info there. Can someone recommend a brand and configuration of floating line as there is just too many for a novice to choose from? A rough estimate on pricing would be very handy too , thanks TROUTBOY

[Guest bluecod]

Many thanks guys there is some very useful info there. Can someone recommend a brand and configuration of floating line as there is just too many for a novice to choose from? A rough estimate on pricing would be very handy too , thanks TROUTBOY

Troutboy - I'm leaving that part of it to someone who actually fishes for trout as I understand line choice will depend on whether river, stream or lake, also season and line colour will be a factor as well.

[pogo]

For a floater I use wulff triangle taper in ivory colour

I also use and old grey cortland 444sl which is a great line

and have just bought a cortland Sylk WF 5 of ebay which comes with great reviews but I havent had a chance to use it on the water yet

[Guest bluecod]

Troutboy,

Hope you don't mind another question for answering thrown into your thread. There's often good pickings on Ebay but sometimes the line is the wrong colour - I've heard that flylines can be dyed to the colour you want - can anyone confirm this? results?

[Agent X]

Gday Trouty, the rod should either be matched with a 6wt Double-Taper or 7wt Weight Forward Line (thus e 6/7wt rating on the rod). As Bluecod has pointed out, 20lb braided dacron works well. Others have opted for braided/gelspun lines as backing and they're great too... and you can pack more backing in that way. Trouts on clear streams really call for delicate presentations and I'm afraid I cant help u out there.... I'm a rough salty... The step-down leaders used by Bluecod are the next best thing to the expensive tapered leaders and gets the job done just as well...

For trout (ie cold water) fishing, dacron core lines are used most of the time as lower temps 'stiffens' up the line. I reckon that if u're fishing in close, almost any line will get the job done. You may wanna try the fishing section at K-Mart, BigW, or any tackle shop for that matter, and see if they've any flylines on clearance. I bought a few Cortland 333HT for less than 20 bucks each and am pleasantly surprised with their performance. But with that being said, Cortland nevertheless, is known for their quality flylines. But if presentation is vital, I reckon that the Triangle Taper would be the performer...

Just my 2 cts... hope it helps.

[pogo]

Yep BC, they dye OK, the first time I went to NZ I had a Triangle taper in Ivory and organised a guide for two days to get the good oil, after the first hour or so the guide insisted I fit one of his reels with an olive line,

I didnt think it cast any were near as well as the bright shiny NEW (expensive) TT

Any way when we packed up for the day the kiwi gude says,

"Guv us yer ril, u'll tek ut hum en fux ut up"

The next day he gives me back my reel with the ivory TT now a muddy brown olive colour for about the first 30 feet,

"Line flush, uts no gud, puts the fush down whun your custen" he says

Ive since read somewhere how to do it but I cant recall where at the moment

I later wrecked that line by getting it caught in an outboard

Ive also been told that the grey cortland 444sl is one of the kiwi guides favourite lines, the same colour as the fighter jets and aerial refuelling aircraft and navy ships---- No flash

He also took the piss out of me, he reckons that Aussie fishos spend to much time looking at their feet and not enough scanning the water.

I told him he needed to step on a few filthy angry serpents and then he might be more concerned where he was putting his size 13 gumboots.

A couple of the funniest days of fishing Ive had,

Edited October 29, 2005 by pogo

[Guest bluecod]

I told him he needed to step on a few filthy angry serpents and then he might be more concerned where he was putting his size 13 gumboots.

A couple of the funniest days of fishing Ive had,

And very well recounted too Pogo