relapse Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Hey guys, Im not a regular fisher - i get out there maybe a few times a year and when i do, its normally to soak a bait off the rocks. Next week me and my partner are hiring a campervan for 9 days and making our way down the coastline from sydney, stopping over wherever we end up each day. Since there will be no propper showers and its a rented van i dont reeally want to get all stinky with baits when i fish - thus i want to have a crack at metal lure fishing off the beaches we go to, but have virtually no experince at it, so i wanted to see if you guys could help me out. Firstly, im looking at taking: my 10ft6 rod - https://www.a shop.com.au/p/wilson-trophy-surf-rod-10ft6in/112178.html sphereos sw5000 reel- https://www.a shop.com.au/p/shimano-spheros-5000sw-spinning-reel/357644.html#q=sw5000&lang=en_AU&start=4 with platypus lo-stretch 8kg monoline. Is this a suitable setup for throwing some metal lures on the beach? Iv had some peopel tell me to switch over to braid, but honestly i hate tying knots with that stuff. Secondly, what kind of lures should i be using/ what weight? (any recommednations?) Lastly, what is the best rig/knots for this kind of fishing? Cheers guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connico Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Firstly if you don't want smelly baits just use Endeavour or Banana prawns... Prawns will catch fish from the beach no issues. Secondly Rod - Wilson is a quality and durable rod, but that rod may be big heavy over time so it will depend on how long you plan to fish from the beach on a session. My recommend rod a travel 3 piece rod thats 2-4kg if you are just surf fishing gutters. Something like a Shimano Raider Travel Spinning Rod 2-4 / 5-8kg 3 piece would be a good guideline. The heavier rod would enable you take larger fish if you wanted too... Reel - I love the Sphereos and its bigger brother the Saragosa. But a 5k off the beach is a bit excessive. Also the reel is a heavy reel for standing on the beach hours on end. Understand why you went that way since you want to use mono which doesn't fit much on a smaller reel (2-3k). Two things to consider 1. If you want to go mono i would recommend go the new lighter Alveys 2. If you don't mind switching to braid. Go a 4k Ultegra Shimano or a 3k Caldia Daiwa. Both reels a much lighter but have respectable capacity for braid Lures - Lures are built to capture the fisho... So don't get to fancy on them unless you are a gear junkie... I would recommend a Halco Twisty to start, a Daiwa double clutch diver for inlet beaches for flathead (it's a light lure so recommend for a 2-4 rod), Gilles surf popper, Rapala X-Rap XR8 etc... Get a shoulder bag a small tackle box and go have some fun mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmarlin62 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Your setup will work fine touch heavy as said but good for salmon n tailer off beach with 8kg line get some 65gram raiders or similar and pilchard profile metals in same easy to throw and less bother than anything with a bib half by quarters are another but anything in chrome or brass finish will work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 45 minutes ago, rickmarlin62 said: Your setup will work fine touch heavy as said but good for salmon n tailer off beach with 8kg line get some 65gram raiders or similar and pilchard profile metals in same easy to throw and less bother than anything with a bib half by quarters are another but anything in chrome or brass finish will work I agree with Rick. On the beaches, tailor and salmon really hit anything that moves so all lures work. A favourite of mine is the Surecatch Bishop which I remove the coloured tape from to give a bit more chrome flash. One thing I would consider if you want to stick with mono is get rid of the lo-stretch line and replace it with something like Platypus Platinum or Maxima. Lo-stretch is quite stiff and not really suited to continual casting on a spin reel. A softer line will see you with less line memory and longer casts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob81 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 To me, metals are more about bling and you lose some of that bling with the stickers some of them have. I tend to just take them off, and as mentioned above, tailors and salmon love the chase. Also the main difference is how it swims which is determined by the shape and types of hook you have on them. Regards to weight of the metal would be determined by the gear you choose to invest in. Most rods will tell you ideal weights, if it mentions metals specifically then stick to that weight range, if it does not but just have lures weights, adjust the weight to the lower side of the range mentioned. Around 20% above the lower mark; For example, 10-60g lures, I would stick to something around 18-22g metals. The metals mentioned above, twisty's, bishops and knights, are all simple, cheap and very effective. You'll probably find when tailors are around, in most cases, you will easily out-catch the people using baits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relapse Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 14 hours ago, rickmarlin62 said: Your setup will work fine touch heavy as said but good for salmon n tailer off beach with 8kg line get some 65gram raiders or similar and pilchard profile metals in same easy to throw and less bother than anything with a bib half by quarters are another but anything in chrome or brass finish will work Cheers, Can I also ask - would you be using a swivel/snap to connect it to the line? Where possible i dont like to use a trace - so some people have advised using these to prevent the line from twisting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Hornet Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) I like to attach a swivel directly to the split ring(no snap), mainly because I don't like tying my leader to the split ring with all the sharp bits associated with it. The pic shows how I rig my metals. Edit: I should add that most metals have a large split ring and if you wish to change lures and don't want to retie your knot, its simple to just slip the split ring off the swivel and add your new lure. Only takes a second or two longer than a snap but one less gizmo that can fail in your rig. If you're fishing mono 6kg or heavier I wouldn't bother with a leader. I fish with braid and only use a 6kg leader. Edited November 27, 2019 by Green Hornet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmarlin62 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Plus one just a swivel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berleyguts Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Plus 2. Just a swivel. Spent many a session in my youth spinning the beaches for tailor and salmon with chrome lures like the 3/4 ounce or 1 ounce Wonder Wobbler or the Abu Toby. They’ll still work, so any metal lures like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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