anthman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 hi all, thinking about going to long reef this weekend. Looking for any tips for fishing the area - targeting reef species and kingies. I've tried in the past near shore(20m drop point away from the beach, various spots long the ridge line) and also out wide at around 60m depth. No luck with pilchard on paternoster setups and also with sps and slow jigs. I'm always reading reports and mentions in the newspaper - snapper and kingies, but alas cannot get on them myself. Can anyone suggest tips that have worked for them and types of terrain sounded that have worked? Thanks all and appreciate any advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingFishing Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 HI Antman. Are you fishing from shore or boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthman Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Fishing from boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 10 hours ago, anthman said: I'm always reading reports and mentions in the newspaper - snapper and kingies, but alas cannot get on them myself. Hi Ant, while I know some of the info on here in reports is old I think it still gives you an idea on locations & for what you could be in for at this time of year. Id be doing a full forum search & doing a bit of research on here plus google. Also look up the GPS thread from Scratchie http://www.ozpolitic.com/fish/map-gps-marks-fishing/Sydney-II-S-New-South-Wales-map-gps-marks-fishing.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingFishing Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) Hi Antman There are a few spots at Longy that are definitely worth a try. Ive put up a little map below which you should be able to use when your out there. If your after kings "the wall" (Line B on the map) is the spot that most fishos will head to for live baiting, fly fishing, it is relatively shallow with reef bottom so it is not really suitable for knife jigging but i have jigged longy with smaller jigs such as the marias in 45grams and up. Most fishos tend to fish the middle or the far northern end of the wall. You can also get snapper and other reef species at this location along the deeper side of the drop off. If Kings are your target, keep moving around until you find the bait, and the kings will be nearby, they can literally be anywhere in the longy area. Out a little deeper, there is also a reef system which comprises a number of reefy ridges (Location C) on the map. Here you will find snapper and other reef species and occasionally some kings stacked up if live bait is close by. You can also fish over lines A & D along the drop offs of the nearby reef. goodluck Edited May 13, 2020 by GoingFishing 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Couple of adds to this-paternosters is pretty unproductive for snapper off Sydney- floaters much more effective, 2nd and probably more important-Longie is pretty unproductive without current from the north- it bubbles water over the nthn end of the reef and creates eddies and upwellings especially on the nthn end . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthman Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, GoingFishing said: Hi Antman There are a few spots at Longy that are definitely worth a try. Ive put up a little map below which you should be able to use when your out there. If your after kings "the wall" (Line B on the map) is the spot that most fishos will head to for live baiting, fly fishing, it is relatively shallow with reef bottom so it is not really suitable for knife jigging but i have jigged longy with smaller jigs such as the marias in 45grams and up. Most fishos tend to fish the middle or the far northern end of the wall. You can also get snapper and other reef species at this location along the deeper side of the drop off. If Kings are your target, keep moving around until you find the bait, and the kings will be nearby, they can literally be anywhere in the longy area. Out a little deeper, there is also a reef system which comprises a number of reefy ridges (Location C) on the map. Here you will find snapper and other reef species and occasionally some kings stacked up if live bait is close by. You can also fish over lines A & D along the drop offs of the nearby reef. goodluck Legend! This is exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the detailed guidance 3 hours ago, PaddyT said: Couple of adds to this-paternosters is pretty unproductive for snapper off Sydney- floaters much more effective, 2nd and probably more important-Longie is pretty unproductive without current from the north- it bubbles water over the nthn end of the reef and creates eddies and upwellings especially on the nthn end . I'm not sure if im doing this right, but if I check the swell forecast and the direction- will that be indicative of the current direction? E.g. this Sunday the swell direction is easterly (i.e. heading to the west). Also, how essential is it to get there before sunrise? It's a bit tough to get there before sunrise since I launch from roseville...(bed too early!) Though I could get there maybe by 7am Edited May 13, 2020 by anthman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1100S Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 3 hours ago, PaddyT said: Couple of adds to this-paternosters is pretty unproductive for snapper off Sydney- floaters much more effective, 2nd and probably more important-Longie is pretty unproductive without current from the north- it bubbles water over the nthn end of the reef and creates eddies and upwellings especially on the nthn end . Can you expand a little on the first comment about floaters.... are you referring to baiting or soft plastics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 9 hours ago, GoingFishing said: Hi Antman There are a few spots at Longy that are definitely worth a try. Ive put up a little map below which you should be able to use when your out there. If your after kings "the wall" (Line B on the map) is the spot that most fishos will head to for live baiting, fly fishing, it is relatively shallow with reef bottom so it is not really suitable for knife jigging but i have jigged longy with smaller jigs such as the marias in 45grams and up. Most fishos tend to fish the middle or the far northern end of the wall. You can also get snapper and other reef species at this location along the deeper side of the drop off. If Kings are your target, keep moving around until you find the bait, and the kings will be nearby, they can literally be anywhere in the longy area. Out a little deeper, there is also a reef system which comprises a number of reefy ridges (Location C) on the map. Here you will find snapper and other reef species and occasionally some kings stacked up if live bait is close by. You can also fish over lines A & D along the drop offs of the nearby reef. goodluck Nice to have Navionics maps GF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Anth the direction of swell and wind is independant to current-if im looking at current i have a subscription to Ripcharts, there is another provider called Fishtrack-both are good, there is a place on the BOM site you can see a current map but its a bit rough and ready-also inshore currents can change a bit overnight so i rely on my eyes . As for the question on ""floaters"" IMHO both plastics and bait are more productive than any paternoster for decent reds, if its a fairly wind free morning with a gentle current then you can even berley whilst drifting and get good results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berleyguts Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 hours ago, PaddyT said: Anth the direction of swell and wind is independant to current-if im looking at current i have a subscription to Ripcharts, there is another provider called Fishtrack-both are good, there is a place on the BOM site you can see a current map but its a bit rough and ready-also inshore currents can change a bit overnight so i rely on my eyes . As for the question on ""floaters"" IMHO both plastics and bait are more productive than any paternoster for decent reds, if its a fairly wind free morning with a gentle current then you can even berley whilst drifting and get good results Paddy - I’ve been interested RipCharts. Is it viable on a phone, do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 i only look at it on the laptop before i go out, i rely on my eyes and ears once im on the water 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingie chaser Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, PaddyT said: i only look at it on the laptop before i go out, i rely on my eyes and ears once im on the water So you don't use a sounder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berleyguts Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, PaddyT said: i only look at it on the laptop before i go out, i rely on my eyes and ears once im on the water Thanks. I only asked because I very rarely use a computer these days... I do everything on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmarlin62 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Personally lookin at the map provided i would anchor just nth east of the C on the map an berley an float baits back to the face of the ledge runnin sth east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 16 hours ago, rickmarlin62 said: Personally lookin at the map provided i would anchor just nth east of the C on the map an berley an float baits back to the face of the ledge runnin sth east Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddyT Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 18 hours ago, Berleyguts said: Thanks. I only asked because I very rarely use a computer these days... I do everything on my phone. Fair enough Baz- i just find that when im planning a day out i really like to have a ""big screen"" look at things and form a clear plan in my head-i just cant get the detail i want looking at a phone screen- once i'm out I modify according to conditions-eg Longie is a very good king spot when the current is belting from the north, but if the current is from the south I dont even bother looking at Longie- i have other spots that fire in those conditions. Having said that it is amazing how often conditions change overnight-""no plan survives first contact with the enemy"" so nothing i do is based purely on Ripcharts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthman Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 Thanks for the advice all, I checked out BOM and looks like current is coming from the north on Sunday. Will try NE edge of point C. I usually drop a paternoster and bounce SPs whilst I wait - usually into the berley trail. Just need the weather to hold! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickmarlin62 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Dont be scared to float big baits half a slimy or pike full butterflied yakka or free swim a livy down trail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoingFishing Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 13 hours ago, anthman said: Thanks for the advice all, I checked out BOM and looks like current is coming from the north on Sunday. Will try NE edge of point C. I usually drop a paternoster and bounce SPs whilst I wait - usually into the berley trail. Just need the weather to hold! There is no substitute for fresh bait. If you have time troll for some early morning bonito or collect slimies, send them down butterflied as Rick noted. Large baits withstand the small pickers and are more likely to attract the bigger fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthman Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 So I didn't manage the get to long reef today - I popped out past the heads and it was a bit too bumpy and windy for my liking. When back inside, got some yakkas, landed an 80cm mulloway and 70cm flattie. Big believer in fresh bait - dead or alive! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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