Shimano Saragosa SW 5000 Reel.

[james Cutler]

HI,

Does anybody own one these  reels ? Just need some info on what they are like. I am not a Shimano fan.

Thanks.

[Steve0]

I am a fan and have the previous model. The new model reviews it as even better.

This guy who own this site reviews reels comprehensively https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/sgwa.html

In practice, the sealing is better than most on the market. I worked mine intensively and had no issues with sand or water in the gears, including when dunked in waves to wash sand out of the spool after dropping it on the sand. Bail arm return and line roller are not totally sealed. Service if they have been near sand. Other than that, tighten drag and hose off then loosen the drag and service every 6-12 months depending on use. Unlike Daiwa, you don't need to send it away to service the Magseal.  

 

[slothparade]

Yeah I have a 6000 2024 model. Really like it, and definitely would consider getting a couple more though the new Penn slammer 4 is a strong contender. But the saragosa just feels a little more premium than the slammer. Bother are great reels though and I just got both 

[BaitDropper]

I have 2 older model Saragosa's, much bigger, they would be 10 year old now,  Awesome reels, 10'000F and a 14'000F.

I would say the newer iterations would have had improvements, but it's a thumbs up for them all the same.

My only other Shimano reels are the old 5000 white Stradic's,  Again 10 odd years old, Been super reliable as well.

I'll also recommend you get onto Alan Tani's reviews, he is very thorough and honest on his appraisals, have been dealing with Alan for the best part of 10-15 years now with Penn reel modifications, he Knows his stuff !!!

[PaddyT]

I own that model and a 10000-they both cop an absolute hammering in my boat and the only service they get is a bit of warm soapy water. Good reels that you can actually service yourself-which is why i dont buy Diawa.

[james Cutler]

Thanks everyone, much appreciated for the advice. I will check out the reviews.

[james Cutler]

Interesting review on the Saragosa. It will be a tossup between the Saragosa sw & the stradic sw. Stradic is a bit more expensive.

I read the write up on the Fin-Nor LT100 reel.  I have three of these reels. Great review.

[Green Hornet]

James, I can’t compare it with a Saragosa, but I have a Stradic SW 4000, same body as the 5000 just a different spool and rate it highly. Every bit as good as my Daiwa Morethan, just not quite as smooth. As expected with a lot less bearings and a hell of a lot cheaper.

That being said, the Saragosas are extremely popular on some of the rock fishing groups I follow and you don’t hear a bad word said about them.

 I’m sure whichever reel you choose will serve you well.

[james Cutler]

@Green Hornet Hi, I have a very early stradic 4000. Top reel. After that I was bitten by two other Shimano reels, I bought. I switched to Penn never looked back. As they say fishing is a hobby, so you keep buying gear. Still thinking. I can buy them in Japan at the right price. I might needle the family for Father's Day. I know what the answer will be. More fishing stuff, haven't you got enough? NO.

[Little_Flatty]

1 hour ago, james Cutler said:

@Green Hornet Hi, I have a very early stradic 4000. Top reel. After that I was bitten by two other Shimano reels, I bought. I switched to Penn never looked back. As they say fishing is a hobby, so you keep buying gear. Still thinking. I can buy them in Japan at the right price. I might needle the family for Father's Day. I know what the answer will be. More fishing stuff, haven't you got enough? NO.

Time to teach the kids some maths.

The ideal number of rods and reels to own is n + 1, where n is the number you currently have🤣

I spotted a two handed fly outfit with a very healthy discount recently and my wife was looking for a present for me. But I decided in the end I needed to calm down a little and get better at casting single handed instead. So I said to keep our money for a weekend away and went fishing instead  

[XD351]

A weekend away or new rod 🤔 I would have to think  about that 🤣🤣

You equation only holds true if the n=an odd number , The laws of physics  must be obeyed and your rod rack must have an even number of rods in it else it will tip over and the universe will implode 🤣🤣🤣

[faker]

On 8/6/2024 at 2:34 PM, slothparade said:

Yeah I have a 6000 2024 model. Really like it, and definitely would consider getting a couple more though the new Penn slammer 4 is a strong contender. But the saragosa just feels a little more premium than the slammer. Bother are great reels though and I just got both 

Is the line roller bearing sealed on new slammer? I recall slammers are almost 100 -200 g heavier. Pretty sure the saragosa is 2020 unless i miss announcement

Edited August 8 by faker

[slothparade]

4 minutes ago, faker said:

Is the line roller bearing sealed on new slammer? I recall slammers are almost 100 -200 g heavier. Pretty sure the saragosa is 2020 unless i miss announcement

Yeah I believe so. I don't believe that the slammer is that much heavier than the Saragosa, though it definitely does feel a bit more solid. Yeah it's a 2020 model sorry, just got the reel this year. 

[faker]

On 8/9/2024 at 8:48 AM, slothparade said:

Yeah I believe so. I don't believe that the slammer is that much heavier than the Saragosa, though it definitely does feel a bit more solid. Yeah it's a 2020 model sorry, just got the reel this year. 

same size?

[james Cutler]

Thanks to everyone for the advice. I bought a Saragosa 6000. Not much difference between a 5000 & 6000. It was on sale under $300.

Also lost the plot & bought two Samaki Zing Gen3 rods. One a 12ft surf rod, the other 9ft rod. Also, on sale. saved a lot of money.

Thanks again.

[savit]

As far as I am aware Saragosa is lighter as it has half metal/half plastic body and aluminium internal parts. Slammer 4 has full metal  aluminium body and brass internal parts - which is more  heavy duty and also heavier.  Slammer 4  also has options of at 4 high speed models (HS) for faster retrieves, as well option (DX) with stainless steel internal parts - but reviews for Slammer DX are not so great. Both Shimano and Penn offer 10 year warranty now.  Spools for Saragosa 5k-6k and 8k-10k-14k are interchangable as reel body size is the same. 

[JonD]

I have 6 saragosa's, simply because they've worked so well for me. Ive punished the hell out of them, pushing way beyond the manufactures intended use, such as the 5000 on whaler sharks of 80-90kg. The bigger 10,000 on yellowfin, bluefin and marlin. Im not simply a Shimano fan and often buy other brands but the reliability of the gosa has been the reason I have 6 now. The slammer 6000 mk3 I bought for beach sharking only got used once before selling it on, it wasn't for me.