Fishing for luderick

[faker]

Messing around middle head today, did some standard rock climb  else where for bait. Then checked out areas near obelisk for kingfish spot down cliff. Found route down.

Met up with friend for luderick fishing. Within 3 hour lost 5 fish inc drummer manage to bag 3.

Will need to.work on better hook up rates on downs

Manage to get mate on his first

 

[XD351]

When you float goes under how long are you pausing before lifting the rod ? 

[faker]

5 minutes ago, XD351 said:

When you float goes under how long are you pausing before lifting the rod ? 

1-2 seconds

[XD351]

Maybe try a little longer 3-4 seconds , I used to count to 6 which in real time was about 3seconds .

[Little_Flatty]

At least you found the fish. That’s 90 percent of the battle.

[faker]

50 minutes ago, Little_Flatty said:

At least you found the fish. That’s 90 percent of the battle.

There was a reason i chose middle head. There are quite a few ledges people can fish of it.

 

[Fried Rice]

Nice fish & a good feed. I really should try targeting them.

[Burger]

2 hours ago, XD351 said:

Maybe try a little longer 3-4 seconds , I used to count to 6 which in real time was about 3seconds .

Good advice from @XD351

It can really vary too…. If float rockets down, you can strike straight away.

Otherwise, I start off at 3 secs. My count is ‘thousands’ ie 1 thousand, 2 thousand, 3 thousand 

If still not connecting, wait longer.

stu.

Edited August 10 by Burger

[TheFishyFisherman]

Good job. But was it really necessary to brag about this on one of my threads when I just told everyone I had another donut on the luds?🤣

[faker]

1 hour ago, TheFishyFisherman said:

Good job. But was it really necessary to brag about this on one of my threads when I just told everyone I had another donut on the luds?🤣

well you can tag along with me next time. i need more buddies while fishing

Edited August 10 by faker

[sashkello]

Nice fish!

Yeah, what everyone says - count 3 seconds and don't hurry, luderick bite typically is very slow, you'll immediately recognize it, most other fish pulls, they just take it and move with it. Drummer pulls hard down, that one you need to strike early otherwise it'll snag you.

Also, what hook are you using? Downsizing my hooks was the most impactful change for me. And don't put too much cabbage on, make sure it's all very concentrated around the barb, so that they take it all in one bite and not drag it around holding by the side.

[Koalaboi]

Hi,

Many have given good advice in terms of timing your strike. I generally count to 5 to 8 before striking. I once saw a fellow fishraider count to 20!

Other variables you could think about include:

1. Having a longer leader

2. Varying the depth

3, greasing your mainline so that it floats

4. ensuring that there’s no loop in your line between the rod tip and your float

5. increasing the amount of ballast below your float

On hooking drummer on blackfish gear, I have found it best to let them run at first and try to play them out in the deeper water before trying to land them. Bringing them in close while they are still green always sees them bolt for a snag.

KB

 

[TheFishyFisherman]

15 hours ago, faker said:

well you can tag along with me next time. i need more buddies while fishing

I’m not sure my mum would let me… I still go to high school. Maybe PM me in 3 years 🤣

[faker]

2 minutes ago, TheFishyFisherman said:

I’m not sure my mum would let me… I still go to high school. Maybe PM me in 3 years 🤣

here i will give you some spots. bradley's head stone wall will is good. spit bridge between high and low tide changes are good. try there

[TheFishyFisherman]

Thanks. I’ll definitely give those a try 👍I was actually gonna give the spit bridge a try next week too cuz it’s closer than my usual spots

Edited August 11 by TheFishyFisherman

[Koalaboi]

BTW,

I love fishing for luderick...I've been at it since I was 17 and I am now 71...but I have to say, drummer are a much better feed than blackfish but not, like flathead, if they're too big. For pigs, fish much longer than 40cm are too dry and chewy/coarse. The same for flatties over 65cm (or thereabouts). I remember keeping a flattie (many years ago) well over 80cm and she was not worth killing, cleaning and cooking let alone eating. Interestingly, big blackfish (my biggest at 48cm) seem OK....mind you, I was speaking to a feller today who won't eat them. 

KB

[big Neil]

2 hours ago, Koalaboi said:

BTW,

I love fishing for luderick...I've been at it since I was 17 and I am now 71...but I have to say, drummer are a much better feed than blackfish but not, like flathead, if they're too big. For pigs, fish much longer than 40cm are too dry and chewy/coarse. The same for flatties over 65cm (or thereabouts). I remember keeping a flattie (many years ago) well over 80cm and she was not worth killing, cleaning and cooking let alone eating. Interestingly, big blackfish (my biggest at 48cm) seem OK....mind you, I was speaking to a feller today who won't eat them. 

KB

I like them to eat. Provided you clean them properly they are very tasty, in my opinion.

bn

[faker]

18 hours ago, Koalaboi said:

BTW,

I love fishing for luderick...I've been at it since I was 17 and I am now 71...but I have to say, drummer are a much better feed than blackfish but not, like flathead, if they're too big. For pigs, fish much longer than 40cm are too dry and chewy/coarse. The same for flatties over 65cm (or thereabouts). I remember keeping a flattie (many years ago) well over 80cm and she was not worth killing, cleaning and cooking let alone eating. Interestingly, big blackfish (my biggest at 48cm) seem OK....mind you, I was speaking to a feller today who won't eat them. 

KB

dad became interested in eating them after first one. working on finding out of way spots that he can physically handle but clifton is too congested but i think spit bridge is a go to. Bradley head also on my radar. i have a couple more spots but even balmoral off the rocks is a contender

 

[XD351]

12 minutes ago, faker said:

dad became interested in eating them after first one. working on finding out of way spots that he can physically handle but clifton is too congested but i think spit bridge is a go to. Bradley head also on my radar. i have a couple more spots but even balmoral off the rocks is a contender

 

Any ferry wharf in Sydney harbour has a resident population of them , my biggest luderick came from Valencia st wharf .

The problem with the spit is current - it has lots of it . 

[Burger]

4 hours ago, faker said:

balmoral

I got a pb lud off the wharf beside balmoral pool.

I regularly fish various Sydney wharves, based mainly on wind direction. Heard Valencia St is not so good now with the new wharf.

Edited August 12 by Burger

[XD351]

22 minutes ago, Burger said:

I got a pb lud off the wharf beside balmoral pool.

I regularly fish various Sydney wharves, based mainly on wind direction. Heard Valencia St is not so good now with the new wharf.

I got nothing last time I went earlier this year . There was zero growth on it - maybe some sort of anti fouling? 

[Burger]

3 hours ago, XD351 said:

I got nothing last time I went earlier this year . There was zero growth on it - maybe some sort of anti fouling?

I haven’t actually tried there with the new wharf, it seems a bit further out from shore which may make a difference to where the ferry wash ends up and where the fish sit to take advantage of that

[XD351]

24 minutes ago, Burger said:

I haven’t actually tried there with the new wharf, it seems a bit further out from shore which may make a difference to where the ferry wash ends up and where the fish sit to take advantage of that

I think it might even be a bit wider too . I used to fish the left corner closest to the shore  ( as you walk down the ramp ) for luderick and the other end for leatherjacket ( I believe this is where the remnants of the old wooden wharf pylons are and the jackets hang around in there ) couple of kids were doing alright on the flathead, bream and trevalley off the front . Usually you can find some sand on the pontoon if it is a decent luderick spot but this thing was spotless. One wharf I haven’t fished is the newest version of Luna park - it’s a pretty big structure.

[Burger]

26 minutes ago, XD351 said:

I used to fish the left corner closest to the shore  ( as you walk down the ramp )

Yep, that was the corner most fished. 👍

28 minutes ago, XD351 said:

Usually you can find some sand on the pontoon if it is a decent luderick spot

Yep, it’s a bit of a give away…..

BUT…. not after we fish… 🤣 there’s never any evidence that we were ever there 🤣

[XD351]

6 hours ago, Burger said:

Yep, that was the corner most fished. 👍

Yep, it’s a bit of a give away…..

BUT…. not after we fish… 🤣 there’s never any evidence that we were ever there 🤣

I have a little Broome I use to sweep the sand off then usually wash down with a bucket of water . 
I was lucky to be taught the ropes there by a bloke named Stanley , he had been fishing there most of his life and man couldn’t he catch luderick! Hard to believe it was 25+ yrs ago !

Edited August 12 by XD351