stricko4 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hi Raiders, I'm pretty new to this fishing business but am enjoying every chance I get to wet a line. But I need some help/advice on this braid stuff. I have one rod that I use for most applications, an Ugy Stick Light 6'6" with a Shimano something reel loaded with 8lb braid. Bloody wonderful stuff it is too. You can feel every little touch on your bait or SP. The question I have though is I've been told you can't have a running sinker set up with braid as the sinker will pretty quickly stuff the braid resulting in a bust off when I fianlly do hook a fish. Is this the case & if so what rig should I use in place of the running sinker rig? Or should I go back to mono? Or should i have a second combo set up with mono for when I want to bait fish? Most of my fishing so far has been in BB & the Georges River so there is a mix of bait & SP fishing. Any advice will be apreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domza Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 interesting question, however i can't answer it but i have noticed the braid go rough when using a running sinker. If i notice it geting very bad i just cut 40-50cm of the braid and re-rig it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insolent Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Hi Kingys I usually use a running sinker on braid and haven't noticed it particularily wearing the line, I run a plastic bead between the sinker and the swivel because you will get wear from the sinker banging the knot. As domza said just keep an eye on it which you should anyway as you'll get wear from the line rubbing on underwater obstacles anyway. Cheers Evil Edited September 28, 2006 by Evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flattieman Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 only SOME braided lines wear with the use of a sinker (gel spun ones like fireline, hercules and other non-true braids for an example), i have both and they suck for bait soaking some options to consider are joining a fluro leader of 2 metres or so directly to the braid with either a uni to uni or albright knot or something similar just to give the sinker some mono to ride up against, this should limit your 'bustoffs'. another option is to purchase quality true braided lines which are designed to cop sinkers (FINS or climax for example) i have both and sinkers do nothing to these lines, they stand up to abrasion, freying and discolouration better, great stuff but a bit heavier on the pocket just out of curiousity, what braid are you currently running? CFD that! The only problem with adding a long fluoro leader is that some people like to allow their sinkers to run further than 2m - you might end up looking like you're topshotting mono! I haven't tried any of CFD's "true braids" but will soon do so. Thanks for the tip, Chris. Flattieman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danielinbyron Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 My two main probs with braid are: 1.the expense and 2.that you can't really tell if its had the jazz and needs to be trimmed like mono... braid always seems to frey to a certain extent... I've had it looking pretty woolly and its stayed strong.. . or its looked really waxxy and seemed to have had a week spot... with mono its much easier to feel or see those nicks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewhunter Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I run braid through my beach & rock gear & always tie a plait or bimini double in the braid & join 4 to 5 mtrs of mono via a ducknose or an albright knot. The sinker runs on the mono & rarely gets onto the braid. It also gives you the protection you need when using braid in rough country. I use to run the sinker on a swivel on the braid. I thought it was o. k until I did a line strength test. The 15kg braid that had the swivel running on it broke at 28lbs. 20 mtrs down it broke at 52lbs! Moral of the story is don't run anything on your braid. Cheers, Grant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stricko4 Posted September 28, 2006 Author Share Posted September 28, 2006 only SOME braided lines wear with the use of a sinker (gel spun ones like fireline, hercules and other non-true braids for an example), i have both and they suck for bait soaking some options to consider are joining a fluro leader of 2 metres or so directly to the braid with either a uni to uni or albright knot or something similar just to give the sinker some mono to ride up against, this should limit your 'bustoffs'. another option is to purchase quality true braided lines which are designed to cop sinkers (FINS or climax for example) i have both and sinkers do nothing to these lines, they stand up to abrasion, freying and discolouration better, great stuff but a bit heavier on the pocket just out of curiousity, what braid are you currently running? CFD CFD, Currently running Sufix Matrix Pro in 10lb weight. It cost around $50 for 250m. Seems to work well but as I said I'm very new to this stuff. Any opinion on whether is is good, bad, or indifferent quality? The usual set up I'd use if running mono would be main line with sinker, swivel then fluro leader. And thanks to evetone for the advice. This is a great site with extremely friendly knowlegable memebers willing to share advice & experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stricko4 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 perfect , same deal for braid but try this STEPS: 1. tie 2 metres of mono DIRECTLY to your braid (no swivel) with an albright knot (very easy to tie, search it on the web and you will learn) 2. sinker 3. swivel 4. trace 5. hook no worries CFD CFD, Thanks with some luck I"ll give that a go this arvo. Hopefully will be wetting a line in the harbour from McMahons Point or around Grenwhich somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IFishSick. Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 I am getting into the Fins braid, it's really great stuff because it doesn't wear down or anything. I suggest that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big-Banana Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Ive heard great stuff about this fin stuff, Ill have to get a spool, however I use Tuf Line and never had a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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