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There have been numerous studies on this, but the most recent one that I am aware of was undertaken by a group of guys based in South Sydney (I think) where they tested survival rates of jewies.
From memory they found that about 80% of fish released with the hooks removed would survive, and that about 75% of fish released with the hooks still in them also survived. The results were surprising in that they demonstrated that removing vs leaving the hook made very little difference.
What was interesting is that the survival rate diminished far more significantly when the fish were mishandled - i.e. keeping a fish out of the water for five minutes while you shove pliers down its gob to manouvre a hook out of its throat is FAR more damaging to a fish than simply cutting the line and letting it go. Message was clear - if you have gut hooked a fish then, unless you can see the hook and are confident of easily removing it, the fish will be better off if you just cut the line and chuck it back.
One of the scientists who did the research visits this site sometimes - his name is Matt and I think Sharky knows him. I don't have a link to the report but maybe someone else can help?
G'day Mondo.
I think the report you refer to is by Dr. Matt Broadhurst and was for the NSW Fisheries Salt Water Trust
Here is the link to the report. Scroll down the Agenda Item 4 for his report on page 13.
http://www.fisheries.nsw.gov.au/__data/ass...4/RFSTEC_15.pdf
Cheers,
Pete.
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Hi
I'm a new member here, but love the site and I'll be there on Stumpy's boat with Squidgy.
Blobby
Thanks Blobby, you have been added also and
to the site.See you there.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Yes, The Manly Daily has this story today on the shark sighting.
It just may be true, although now downgraded to a 1.5 metre model.
Shark warning for Narrabeen Lagoon
Lisa Muxworthy
17Jan07
SWIMMERS have been warned to keep clear of Narrabeen Lagoon after a whaler shark was seen in the water near Birdwood Park.
Fisherman Stephen Burleigh saw the 1.5m shark about 4.30am yesterday and reported it to Warringah Council.
Mr Burleigh was standing on a large rock near the Ocean St bridge and said he got a clear sighting and believed it was a tiger or bull shark.
He said the shark chased fish and then dragged a duck under the water.
``I have only seen two sharks that size in the lagoon in the last 10 years,'' he said. ``It could be very dangerous.''
Warringah Council said it was more likely to be a whaler and had rangers out in force yesterday afternoon to alert beach-goers.
The council said it was best for people to keep out of the water as the sighting could not be confirmed or denied.
It also notified residents near the lagoon, as well as Lakeside Caravan Park and the kayak hire business.
Council lifeguards patrolled the area until late last night and were due to return early this morning with NSW Fisheries.
The entrance to Narrabeen Lagoon was opened on December 6 with more than 40,000cu m of sand removed and used to nourish the Collaroy-Narrabeen beachfront.
Last March another fisherman claims to have temporarily landed a bronze whaler in the lagoon.
Adam Scott, of Narrabeen, said he was fishing on the ocean side of the Pittwater Rd bridge when a huge fish took hold of his line. After a 40-minute fight he was able to pull the metre-long shark ashore. He held it up for a photo then laid it on the ground to take out hooks before it started thrashing around violently and rolled back into the water.
Last September a great white shark measuring more than 2m was found dead in a Palm Beach shark net and disposed of at sea by Fisheries Department contractors.
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Well Pete, we might have to invest in a pair of chainmail waders for the next whiting session.
I'm off to the ironmonger this morning for a fitting Darren.
I still think this is some holidaymaker's idea of a joke to raise a shark alarm.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Pete.
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hey peeps
just wondering if the little quizes on the waterways site are similiar or exactly the same questions as the license test? because ive pretty much mastered the quizes now, so would i be ready for the actual test? (ive read the book etc as well btw lol)
oh and i was also wondering what places in sydney supply marine paint? or tinnies etc? gona give the tinny a paint mick
thanks in advance
G'day davy.
The questions are the same but when you sit for your licence, they have four different sets of questions
to choose from, so they aren't always the same set of Q's.
If you have mastered the online quiz, then you shouldn't have any problems.
The test you sit for has a mandatory set of questions, followed by another lot.
You must get ALL the manatory ones correct and I think you are allowed 3 wrong answers in the other part from memory.
Can't help with the paint question, but I'm sure someone will be able to help.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Hey guys, could you change me to boat based, with greg from ,"Dan and Greg"
Done KR.
Cheers,
Pete.
Hope there's room for one more, if so count me in
Regards Darren
On the list Darren.
Glad you can make it.
Cheers,
Pete.
Hey guys
Could you add esratew and myself we will be in a boat
thnks
Coollamon
You are esratew included also John.
Cheers,
Pete.
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From the Ripley's Believe It Or Not department!!
There is reportedly a 3 metre Bronze Whaler shark in Narrabeen Lake at the moment.
I was down there wading into the middle of the lake near the Caravan Park and fishing in the main channel
when I noticed a jetski approaching on my right.
The bloke on board hit the sandbar at a fair clip and stopped dead in his tracks. I had a chuckle to myself at that sight.
Anyway, he gets underway again and comes closer and I see it's a Warringah Council sponsored Lifesaver
Jetski with the trailer giizmo on the back. I have never seen a lifesaver jetski in the lake before.
He approaches me and yells to me that there is a report of a three metre bronzie in the lake at present and to be aware...oh..and he jokingly said I may need bigger hooks.
I asked him where this noah was supposed to be and he told me the last sighting was down near the Woolies Bridge in the main channel.
He said they are going to do some regular patrols of the lake until it's either caught or no more sightings are made.
I still find it hard to believe that a 3 metre bronzie could even get into the lake as the entrance is only half a metre deep at best.
The lifesaver was going around to each and every fisho he saw and telling them to be aware.
I didn't get much today at the lake..just a couple of just sized bream and a smallish flattie..all released.
Another fisho about 20 metres away managed a thumper whiting on nippers and went a staggering 45cm
It was the most solid whiting I've seen in a long time. He nailed 2 more after that but not nearly as large.
So the whiting are still around...just need the nippers for them..or beach worms, neither of which I had today.
Cheers,
Pete.
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How many boats does Darren have in the fleet?
Well done on a great day
Hi Johnno,
Darren has three identical boats in his fleet. All Quinnie 420 Dory's with 30 horse Suzuki's.
All fitted with downriggers and fishfinders.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Hi Squudgie,
Jump onto the live chat in the top left of the page..We are discussing the rules now.
Hop in anyone who is going to the social.
Cheers,
Pete
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Good luck with the new boat Jill.
I hope you bag out on whatever you are targeting.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Hi Andy and
to the site.If you want to try out the Quinnie Dory 420 withn a 30 HP Suzuki...I highly recommed
you rent one for a day from one of our sponsors... www.trailerboathire.com.au
We took two of them out on Pittwater again yesterday and they performed flawlessly.
These are brand new boats in top condition.
It might give you some idea of their handling and capabilities.
You can't take them off shore due to insurance regulations but in Pittwater at least, you'll get some idea
of how they handle and how much room is in them.
Good luck with whatever boat you finally decide on.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Just letting you know my deckies will be Kirk and Rahul.
See you there, bright & early.
Cheers
Greg
List updated Greg.
See you there.
Cheers,
Pete
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havnt been to narra lakes for a while.. do they still hold decent sized lizards there?
You bet they do Davy.
I've pulled some very nice flatties out in the last few weeks.
With the whiting now in the lake, it's an added bonus.
Get down there if you can for a day's fun. A bit crowded at the moment with all
the holidaymakers, but they will disperse soon.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Nice report Sifosho and a big
to the site.Clifton is sure producing lately and was a great choice for the social.
Those kingies had better be ready for battle next Sunday.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Top feed there Roberta and a great report.
You and your brother look like you had a great day on the lake.
You patented mullet gatherer is sure working overtime.
Keep the reports coming..always a good read.
Cheers,
Pete.
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I like to steam my fish like they do at chinese restaurants.
Steaming usually goes well with fish that has a smooth texture such as bream or barramundi. Its also very simple! Steaming doesn't go well like garfish or snapper
Lay the whole fish on a plate, sprinkle ginger, spring onion and a pinch of salt. Place in a steamer for 7-10min depending size of fish. Just when its about done, pour 2-3 tablespoons of cooking oil and soy sauce in a sepearate saucepan until very hot. Then pour over the fish and serve.
oooh...that sounds delicious.
I must try steaming some fish soon. Heathier than fried all the time too.
Thanks for the tip.
Cheers,
Pete.
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to the site K9.
It's the most basic of errors like that which can ruin your day. I bet you won't make the same mistake again anytime soon.
I hope your motor checks out OK.
I suppose it depends how long the engine had no water going into it that will determine how much damage was done.
Let's hope it nothing serious and you are back on the water in no time.
Congrats of your catch too.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Yes, it really turned out to be an exciting day on the water after a slow start.
Those bonnies sure do bust up the water when they school like that.
We chased them all over Towlers Bay. They would appear in front of us, then sound and appear at another spot within 2 minutes.
We in our boat, Darren, Minn (Hiramasa)and myself kept motoring to where they next appeared and Flightmanager, Coollamon and Flightmanager's No.1 son Brett stayed in the one position in the other boat and let them come to them. That turned out to be the best ploy as they ended up with four very solid bonnies to our (ahem) not that many LOL.
Soon after arriving at Towlers, as we were thinking bream, I was soaking a cut pillie on a No.2 hook, weightless when all of a sudden my rod buckles over and I'm onto something solid.
It took a run straight for the bottom, but I managed to get it to the surface only to have the hooks pull.
It was definitely a largish kingy as I saw the silver flash when it was just about on the surface.
Ten minutes later, the bonnies arrived in droves and the fun really began.
My thanks also go to Darren from Trailerboathire for putting on two of his excellent boats for the day and for the great briefing before hitting the water. He knows his boats and I also highly recommend his boats for anyone who is thinking of getting on the water for next Sunday's Kingy Social.
You will be amazed just how good these boats really are. We saw a few of the regular hire boats on Pittwater from another hirer and they aren't a patch on Darren's boats.
Do yourself a favour and try out these craft..you won't be disappointed.
Cheers,
Pete.
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1. Flattie
2. Whiting
3. Flounder
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ahhhh. Just finished off a half dozen Narra Whiting as we speak. Gotta love that taste
I agree...I usually C&R all my fish but couldn't resist taking a couple home the other day from the Lake
and they were absolutely delicious dipped in beer batter and lightly fried.
Making my mouth water again now just thinking about them.
Hope to pick up some more tomorrow.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Just a reminder about knots..
There is a new link on the top of the index page called "Knots"
which shows all knots and how to tie them (In animation)
A very helpful link.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Fish and the drought
Thursday, 11 January 2007
Recreational fishers can play a part in preserving fish stocks which are affected by the drought.
Life for fish in drought conditions is very cosy. Less water, fewer places to live, more crowding, says Dr Ben Gawne. That's good news for fisher folk, but only in the short term.
Fish get hungry and keener to take the lures and so fishing may seem better, Dr Gawne observes. A freshwater ecologist, who is a member of the Murray Darling Freshwater Research Centre, he says that over the long term, because the numbers of fish will be reduced by this drought, there will certainly be poorer catches once the drought breaks.
As well, he notes, the small bodies of water that are left have poor water quality with not much oxygen and high temperatures. "It's a very stressful time."
Downstream, the Darling river is drying, contracting to a series of very large and in some cases, very deep pools, says Dr Gawne. This drought is unknown territory he says. Researchers have been looking at these holes and have found some interesting and surprising developments.
The Darling is usually a turbid river with little light penetration, Dr Gawne explains "and so aquatic plants don't grow very well." With no flow, sediments fall out. The still water is clearer and so "aquatic plants are growing now all through some of these pools".
Dr Gawne agrees that our native fish are used to dryer conditions. Before alteration with dams and weirs, rivers would naturally dry up. Northern rivers which aren't regulated still show that pattern, he says. Life in a pool might last a couple of years before rain and flow starts again. The fish hunker down and wait for the next good times. But, he cautions, these are very tough times and not all will survive.
If indigenous species have some immunity, what about introduced species? How do they fare in a drought? Unfortunately, Dr Gawne responds, european carp are "very tough fish." They can be seen them in residual pools, on their sides in the mud -surviving.
Again Dr Gawne makes a comparison with unregulated pools in northern and central Australia. The less regulation, the less carp there are, he states. "So there's something about the way we're managing rivers that seems to give carp a benefit." The MDFRC is a joint venture between CSIRO, the Murray-Darling Basin Commission and La Trobe University. The ecologists are keen to find out what will happen to the carp population as a result of this drought.
Another aspect of ecological balance to consider (which has relevance in drought times), is whether the native murray cod helps to keep invader numbers down. "There is evidence that cod eat young carp," says Dr Gawne, "but once the carp reach a certain size , they have no predators in Australia."
The period when carp numbers first took off in the Murray "coincides with a time when cod numbers where at their absolute lowest." He adds, "We think it's not a coincidence." The recovery of cod numbers seemed to be simultaneous with a reduction in the prevalence of carp. "So it may be that the cod and some of the native birds are also having an impact on the number of carp in the system."
Dr Gawne is keen to get out the message that people have an important role to play in the long term future of our fish stocks. He reiterates that we may pay in the long run for taking the easy fish now. Just as we're all being urged to take personal responsibility for protecting water resources, we can apply the same approach to preserving fish species.
We might think that there's always the ocean if the rivers are unproductive, but Dr Gawne informs us that the drought affects marine fishing as well. Work done up in Queensland shows that productivity of marine fisheries such as shrimp "is intimately linked to the nutrients that are delivered by rivers into the ocean."
The food chain starts with the rivers which dump nutrients into the estuaries. That fuels algae for the invertebrates to snack on, snack in turn for the prawns and then bigger fish. Deficiency of that organic matter coming from inland particularly undermines the survival of young fish in estuaries, which "plummets", says Dr Gawne.
While the work has been specific to Queensland, Dr Gawne believes that the chain would be a general fit.
We can all help ensure the survival of our native fish though to easier times. Recreational fishing can have a big impact because fish are suffering so much, any additional pressure isn't going to help, says Dr Gawne. Target invasive species and leave native species alone, he asks. "If you do catch them, release them."
"Anything that we can do to help the environment survive through this very tough time, I think that there's an obligation on us to try and do it."
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Jellyfish sting 160 on Qld beaches
Over 160 beach-goers were stung and two beaches were closed as a northerly wind change drove blue bottle jellyfish shorewards in south east Queensland.
Over 100 people were stung at Noosa and Rainbow beach on the Sunshine Coast, a Surf Life Saving Queensland (SLSQ) spokeswoman said.
However, none required hospitalisation.
On the Gold Coast, 60 people were stung at seven beaches, a SLSQ spokesman said.
Three of the jellyfish victims suffered allergic reactions and were taken to hospitals at the Gold Coast.
Burleigh Heads and Neptunes beaches were briefly closed due to the large numbers of blue bottle jellyfish.
SLSQ Gold Coast Duty Officer Kevin Dunn said while the number of jellyfish stings was extremely high, it was not unusual.
"We've been hit really badly today, mainly because those northerly winds came through.
"Blue bottles normally turn up at this time of year ... They are always there, but when the winds change, they tend to blow back onto our beaches.
"They are an amazing little creature, they are only about the size of a tea cup, sometimes a little larger, but some of their stingers run up to three metres long."
Blue bottle jellyfish stings are treated with ice, however, if the victim suffers an allergic reaction, they must seek medical assistance.
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NSW ferry crash victim dies in hospital
A 72-year-old fisherman who suffered a heart attack and lost his leg in a collision with a RiverCat on Sydney Harbour has died in hospital.
The man and his 37-year-old son were thrown from their dinghy into waters off Dawes Point, near Luna Park, after the off-duty Sydney Ferries RiverCat Dawn Fraser and the dinghy collided on January 5.
The man was taken to St Vincents Hospital where his right leg was amputated.
The severity of his injuries also triggered a heart attack.
A St Vincents Hospital spokeswoman confirmed the man died early Saturday.
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Tangler Bins For Waste Fishing Line
in Fishing Chat
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Just noticed in today's Manly Daily that Pittwater Council has installed TAngler Bins in it's fishing areas.
These are bins supplied by OceanWatch for discarded line that entangles wildlife and the like..a great idea I reckon.
I hope all councils that have waterways in their areas install these at popular fishing spots so we don't get discarded line cluttering up the area and endangering birds etc.
Councils currently installing these bins are:
Rockdale City Council
Tweed Shire Council
Hornsby Shire Council
Wollongong City Council
Kempsey Shire Council
Pittwater Council.
Here is a link to the OceanWatch site which gives some info on them.
http://www.oceanwatch.org.au/TAnglerBinProject1.htm
Cheers,
Pete.