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perfect ten again but too slow by 10 secs....oh well, there's always tomorrow's
Cid & Jewel must have lightning fingers!
I'd love to see a geography one, one of these days.
Pete.
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Hi, I'm Pete known as MallacootaPete on here. I have been living in the U.S. for the past 8 years and recently returned to Sydney's Northern Beaches..where the air and water are a hellava lot cleaner to say the least. I occasionally fished wide in California from Morro Bay..lots of fun but fish were a lot more scarce than here in Oz.
Taken up fishing again since my return, mostly local beaches and particularly Narra Lake trying to latch onto one of the monster flatties that lurk there..no luck so far but I'm a persistant bugger.
I grew up in Melb. and used to visit Mallacoota on a regular basis when I was a kid (hence my nic.)...loved that place.
Would love to do some outside fishing again and one of these days will buy a boat..beats estuary & beach any day. Nice fat mortgage precludes that at present though.
Great site here with a wealth of info and I'd like to thank the mods and posters here for doing a fantastic job.
Trying SP's for the first time ever and warming to them more and more..
It's now part of my daily chores to read all the wonderful posts.
Pete.
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Hi all i was just wondering is the portjackson shark still protected or not? and are they any good eating and any special way on cooking them?
Cheers Joe
I believe only the Grey Nurse shark is protected, correct me if I'm wrong guys.
As for eating...hmmm....
To cook one, place shark in a large boiler with some herbs and garlic and add a house brick..boil for 3 days...throw away shark and eat the brick!
I've never heard of anyone eating one yet..the shark I mean.
Pete.
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7/10 for the third day running I think....... that I probably am a mid-table team ..... in short I'm pretty fick
ten outa ten Woooohoooooo!! My brain hurts though
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Top Scores Yesterday
Player Pts Awarded Correct Seconds Score
1. Mondo + 36 pts 10 83 917
2. Flattieman + 32 pts 10 93 907
3. warpig + 29 pts 9 65 835
4. coollamon + 27 pts 9 66 834
5. JEWEL + 25 pts 9 76 824
6. pogo + 23 pts 9 88 812
7. treble + 22 pts 9 116 784
8. fishlessmick + 20 pts 8 65 735
9. robthefisherman + 18 pts 8 70 730
10. outnumbered + 16 pts 8 79 721
Daily Winners Over Past Week
Date Topic Winner # Players Wins Winning Score
Mar 20 06 Mixed Bag Mondo 36 2 917
Mar 19 06 Mixed Bag Sharky 29 1 928
Mar 18 06 Mixed Bag outnumbered 17 1 796
Mar 17 06 Mixed Bag mrsswordfisherman 16 1 935
Mar 16 06 Mixed Bag JEWEL 23 1 844
Mar 15 06 Mixed Bag Henryk 35 1 932
Mar 14 06 Mixed Bag Mondo 25 2 818
DRAT!!! only 7 right..these are getting harder or I'm getting dumber by the minute!
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Yes, today's Manly Daily...I noticed they also had a picture of the shark being held by the bloke that caught it...it seemed to be taken indoors somewhere which doesn't gel with the story fully...something fishy
here I feel.He says it broke free and swam away when he was trying to get the hook out but how did he manage to also get a pic of it indoors....hmmmmm
Pete.
Here's the entire article (with slightly more info) from the Manly Daily Saturday 18/3
Story seems a little suss to me...what do you all think??
The shark looks rather dead too.
Pete.
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Dont mean to be skeptical, but this didnt come from a local paper did it?
Yes, today's Manly Daily...I noticed they also had a picture of the shark being held by the bloke that caught it...it seemed to be taken indoors somewhere which doesn't gel with the story fully...something fishy
here I feel.He says it broke free and swam away when he was trying to get the hook out but how did he manage to also get a pic of it indoors....hmmmmm
Pete.
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Shark on the loose
JULIAN LEEMBRUGGEN
18mar06
A potentially aggressive bronze whaler shark is on the loose in Narrabeen Lakes, according to a peninsula fisherman.
Adam Scott, of Narrabeen, said he was fishing on the ocean side of the Pittwater Rd bridge when what he thought was a huge fish took hold of his line.
A 40-minute fight ensued and Mr Scott was eventually able to pull it aboard.
Mr Scott managed to take a picture of the shark before it started thrashing around violently and rolled back into the water.
``I couldn't believe it. I live near the lake and swim in there every day and to think there is a shark around there is scary,'' he said.
Mr Scott warned there could be more sharks living in the popular swimming spot.
``Once you catch one shark there has to be more,'' he said.
``We have been setting lines out to try and catch it again but so far we haven't had any luck.''
The lake was opened by Warringah and Pittwater Councils on January 18 and is believed to have naturally closed again several weeks later.
Mr Scott said he thought the shark could have been caught by an ocean fisherman and put in the lake as a joke or could have swum in while the lake was opened.
Bronze whalers can grow up to 3.25m long and weigh up to 300kg.
It is known as an aggressive species.
Narrabeen Lakes is a popular weekend spot for families.
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95.6 in homebush bay bream?!
Holy Bananas
Yep, 95.6 is the downside. The upside is they are easy to spot as they glow in the dark!!
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Guys, there has been a new report on dioxin levels, especially in pelagics. Channel 9 News tonight will have a report on the new findings at 6pm in Sydney.
Worth a look.
Cheers,
Pete.
Some more info on the above subject:
Below is the Press Release from the Minister for Primary Industry, Ian MacDonald.
Media Release March 16 2006
EARLY TEST RESULTS SHOW DIOXIN LEVELS LOWER IN "RECREATIONAL" FISH SPECIES
Dioxin levels in pelagic species of fish in Sydney Harbour appear to be well below the elevated levels found in Bream and Prawns, Primary Industry Minister Ian MacDonald said today.
Minister MacDonald said a small number of preliminary test samples indicate that species of fish like Yellowtail and Trumpeter Whiting have much lower levels of dioxin.
"Early results from tests on a range of species in Port Jackson, east of the Bridge, include Yellowtail, Sand Whiting, Luderick and Trumpeter Whiting, have levels below 6 picograms per gram recommended by our expert panel", the Minister said.
"For example, all Trumpeter Whiting caught at Rose Bay was below 4.4 pg/g, while all Yellowtail at Balmoral was below 1.97 pg/g."
"I must stress these are early samples only - about 10% of the current testing program- but the signs are hopeful".
"The dioxin problem in the Harbour comes from sediment in areas like Homebush bay, a legacy of 100 years of industrial pollution by companies like Union Carbide".
"As a result, the dioxin levels are high in travelling "bottom feeders" like Bream, Prawns and Squid".
"For comparison, Bream caught at Balmoral in the December round of tests averaged 14.7 pg/g, Bream caught at Clifton Gardens averaged 25.5 pg/g".
"Bream caught further west, at Homebush Bay (which has been closed to commercial fishing since 1989) had an average reading of 95.6
"These readings are well above the panel recommendations of 6 pg/g- and that is why I closed the Harbour to commercial fishing in January".
"I would point out, however, that one of the species of Trevally tested at Chowder Bay in the latest round of tests had a dioxin reading of 9.3 pg/g so there is need for some caution".
Minister MacDonald said the new test results would make no difference in the commercial fishing ban.
"This is great news for recreational fishermen, unfortunately, however, it is the "bottom feeders" that make up the vast bulk of the commercial catch so it makes no difference to the ban on commercial fishing in the Harbour", he said.
"The highest results in the latest round of tests to be over acceptable dioxin level was Squid- with another "bottom feeder" and another commercial catch".
Minister MacDonald said commercial fishers had already been offered a $5 million buyout package for their industry - which had an annual value totalling just $217,000 a year.
Fish caught in Sydney Harbour made up less than 2% of the Sydney Fish Market catch before the full ban was put in place on January 24.
"The Governmant has been more than fair with this package - and if, in the future, the Harbour is re-opened to commercial fishing, these fishermen will get the first option". Minister MacDonald said.
"The latest small sample of test results support previous comments that Harbour water is the cleanest it has been in decades.
"Those species caught commercially - namely Bream, Squid and Prawns all have returned unacceptably high levels of dioxin. It is mostly the "recreational species" that are returning lower levels in Port Jackson - and that's from a small sample of early test results", he said.
"The latest results will be analysed by the expert panel - we expect more test results in the coming weeks".
"I will review the dietary advice provided to recreational fishers once the final results are in".
The State Government is currently conducting remediation works to clean up the former Union Carbide site at Homebush Bay.
Sydney Harbour was closed to commercial Prawn fishing on December 3 and commercial fishing on January 24 after expert tests revealed high levels of dioxin in Bream and Prawns.
Areas of the Harbour West of the Bridge including Homebush Bay have been closed to commercial fishing for more than a decade.
ENDS:
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Hi all Raiders, FYI I had a talk with Mr Maxwell Withnell from the DPI and he was very happy to hear from us here on this site
He was most helpful with the following information and if there are any further queries on the fines etc for individuals he is more than happy to assist us
By individuals, the DPI do not discriminate between professional fishermen and ordinary rec fishos. We are treated equally and on each situation of severity.
This is the information forwarded to me by email.
I will just give you the most common ones that your members may wish to know
Exceed Bag Limit or Possession Prohibited Size Fish- $300 Penalty Infringement
Notice (PIN) or maximum penalty in a court of $11,000 or 3 months imprisonment
or both.
Take/ Possession of Protected Fish-$500 PIN or maximum penalty of $11,000 or 3
months or both.
Take fish from closed waters or closed season- $500 PIN or max penalty of
$22,000 and/or 6 months.
Unlawful use of net or trap-$500 PIN or max penalty of $22,000 and/or 6 months.
Unlawful possession of fishing gear-$500 PIN and/or 6 months.
Not have recreational fishing licence or fail to have in possession- $200 PIN or
maximum penalty of $2,200.
Come back to me if you want any more specific ones Stewart but won't be back in
my office until Monday 27th March.
Regards
Maxwell Withnell
NSW Department Primary Industries
PO Box 213
MACLEAN NSW 2463
Ph: 02 6645 0504
Fax: 02 6645 1326
These fines are for everyone breaking the law and if the DPI FISHERIES OFFICERS DEEM IT NESCESSARY THEY WILL GO TO COURT FOR THE MAXIMUM FINE AND CONVICTION DEPENDING ON SEVERITY
Cheers Swordfisherman
Many thanks for getting that info for us all.
Pete.
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Guys, there has been a new report on dioxin levels, especially in pelagics. Channel 9 News tonight will have a report on the new findings at 6pm in Sydney.
Worth a look.
Cheers,
Pete.
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I will contact Amy at Fisheries and find out exactly what the fines are and what for
Cheers Stewy
Many thanks Stewy..it will be great to find out specific penalties for the various offences.
I was surprised they aren't on the Fisheries website.
Cheers,
Pete.
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So what exactley was the fine for poisioning the bird or killing the fish?????
I don't know SeaJay..I only heard this info 2nd hand from a bloke who's a regular at the Lake.
I've been trawling through the Fisheries website to find out specific fines for keeping undersize fish and othe ofences (like the bird incident) but I'm blowed if I can find anything about penalties etc. in the website.
Only thing I could find was a post from 2004 on FR Forum that stated:
“Fisheries Officers reported that they saw a large group of people fishing from the shore, appearing to keep large numbers of small fish. As fishers left the lake, they were stopped and their vehicles searched.
“In total, Fisheries Officers seized 943 fish – mostly undersized sand whiting – as well as six fishing rods and a number of eskies and buckets,” Mr Tritton said.
“The maximum penalty for these offences is a $11,000 fine and/or a three-month gaol term.
Anyone else know where to find info on penalties for fishing offences??
Pete.
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NSW Department of Primary Industries (DPI) scientists are searching for potential carp breeding sites in inland NSW rivers in order to identify recruitment ‘hotspots’ for the fish that has become Australia’s number one inland freshwater pest, Primary Industries Minister Ian Macdonald said today.
The Minister said recent good rain throughout inland NSW has led to reasonably high flows in many river systems – and these are a cue for initiating spawning in many fish including the noxious carp.
'DPI research has found carp do not reproduce throughout entire river systems and that the vast majority of carp breed at a relatively small number of locations,' the Minister said.
'Sampling for carp larvae was done at, and downstream of, potential carp breeding sites, soon after the high flows passed.'
NSW DPI fisheries scientist, Dean Gilligan, said identification of these ‘hot spots’ provides important opportunities for carp control.
Larval carp sampling to identify the most important ‘hotspots’ is being done across the entire Murray-Darling Basin by NSW DPI scientists working with their counterparts from Victoria, South Australia and Queensland.
Dr Gilligan said these locations can then be targeted using a range of control options that are to be identified under a detailed Integrated Pest Management strategy.
The strategy is to be developed by fisheries scientists working under the auspices of the Invasive Animals Cooperative Research Centre.
Dr Gilligan said carp are the most significant pest of freshwater river systems in Australia, impacting on native fish communities, recreational fisheries and riverine environments.
'They dominate many river systems, comprising an average of around 80% of the fish biomass in many areas,' Dr Gilligan said.
Media contact: Joanne Finlay on 02 6391 3171 or 0428 491 813.
Hey, I've got an idea...why doesn't the Dept. of Primary Industry get those pro. fishermen that just got kicked out of Sydney harbour (and got compensation) to go fish for carp...a win-win situation if ever I heard one!! Killing two birds (or crap fish) with one stone.
Pete.
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The New South Wales Member for Bega says a plan for a marine park on the south coast is an attempt by the Labor Government to win Greens preferences.
Batemans Bay recreational fishers have urged the Government not to go ahead with the marine park.
The Batemans Marine Park is due to be formally declared in April and will stretch from Narooma to Bawley Point, near Ulladulla.
Fishers are concerned about the ban on fishing in sections of the 85,000 hectare park and that it will affect tourism and the local economy.
Liberal MP Andrew Constance says recreational fishing is worth millions of dollars to the south coast economy.
Mr Constance says the Government must reveal how the marine park will affect the communities.
"This is a grubby Greens preference deal, which is affecting communities on the coast from the Manning region down to the Batemans region," he said.
"This is a major issue affecting all those communities - jobs are at stake, businesses are at stake.
"The Government hasn't bothered to ask anyone what their view is in relation to this and there's backlash in the communities."
Recreational fisher Jack Tait has formed the Coastal Rights Association to fight the plan and says it wants evidence the scheme will benefit the environment and the community.
"There are many, many people here that have fished for years and have lived here and there are areas where fish come into breed, we know that," he said.
"If they said for three months of the year, 'block that off, it's a nursery zone,' there would not be one person go anywhere near it.
"But to take everyone's rights away, we think, is totally wrong."
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GREY nurse sharks could be imported to Queensland and NSW or artificially inseminated under a proposal to boost flagging populations.
Researchers from Sydney's Macquarie University are considering moving sharks from Western Australia or Africa to the eastern seaboard in a bid to strengthen the sharks' gene pool.
Research team member Adam Stow said studies had shown there was limited migration within Australian grey nurse shark populations and the critically endangered east coast variety had very low levels of genetic variation.
"It's actually worse than we thought for the grey nurse shark because low levels of genetic variation mean that the population's not going to be very robust to any environmental changes such as global warming," he said today.
"And the fact that the population's not getting replenished by migration adds further concern to the population decline."
Studies have suggested east coast grey nurses could be extinct within 50 years unless immediate action was taken.
Dr Stow, from Macquarie University's Department of Biological Sciences, said an estimated 500 grey nurse sharks remained across the eastern seaboard.
Several factors had contributed to their decline, he said, including excessive hunting in the 1960s and 70s and their inability to give birth to more than two pups at a time.
That was because of "intra-uterine cannibalism" – where the young eat each other during development, leaving only a single surviving pup in each of a shark's two fallopian tubes.
But Dr Stow said importing sharks to breed and strengthen local populations had risks, including stress associated with relocation and the transmission of diseases.
"One possible way of circumventing disease risk might be artificial insemination for example," he said.
"It has been carried out with other sharks, (but) it hasn't been carried out with the grey nurse shark as far as I know."
Dr Stow said the grey nurse, often dubbed the "labradors of the ocean", were not man-eaters.
"They kind of look a little bit formidable ... however their teeth are designed to catch a slippery fish and they're not at all designed for chewing up a mammal," he said.
"They're pretty inoffensive."
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No no honey I insist I will do the dishes
Gives a whole new meaning to "Suds in the sink"
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Weed-eating fish could save the world's coral reefs, an Australian scientist says.
Professor Dave Bellwood, of Townsville's James Cook University (JCU), said reefs were being smothered by a "green tide" of weed caused by nutrients from erosion, agriculture, sewage and development.
But fish dubbed the "gardeners of the reef", such as parrotfish and surgeonfish, could help determine the fate of the important ecosystems, he said.
"We are only just beginning to realise what a vital role these groups of fish play in keeping reefs clean, healthy and free of weed," said Prof Bellwood, of JCU's Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies.
"Remove them, and you as good as remove the reef itself. Without the fish to mow the weed, it soon takes over completely from the coral."
Prof Bellwood said a group of parrotfish could eat through 40kg of coral algae within a couple of weeks, preventing weeds from completely taking over a reef.
He said previous experiments which removed such fish from reef areas found its corals quickly became completely smothered by the aquatic pest.
But Prof Bellwood said new research aimed to identify which species of weed-eating fish could actually reverse algal outbreaks once they took hold.
"What we're finding is it's not just the traditional herbivores which can help the reef, but it's a whole range of things and that they're able to do things that parrotfishes sometimes can't," he said.
"We're starting to now find that we have to be a lot more careful in terms of protecting fish that we assumed weren't that important, because they may be important for reversing trends."
Prof Bellwood said finding the right groups of fish to clean the reef could mark the beginning of new and innovative industries.
"I could imagine people going around in mobile cages full of reef regenerating fishes," he said.
"The only thing we ever do with fish is take them out and cook them and eat them.
"We never realise that fish are our friends and that we can use them positively."
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Only heard this second hand from a regular down at Narra Lake a few weeks ago, but some dufus was catching toads and thought it was fun to feed them to the ever present pelicans that are always at the lake.
The local fisho inspector busted this guy and gave him a $3000 on the spot fine and confiscated his gear...Well done in my opinion!!
Fancy some idiot doing that..probably poisoned the poor bird too.
Some people!!!
Pete.
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Wow he goes in hard as well .I gave him a degree of difficulty of 7 but deducted points for the entry too much splash
Cheers Swordfisherman
I hope his name wasn't Berkley.........GULP!!!
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I'm as cranky as hell. I'm down at Narra Lake tonight still trying to hook one of those largish lizards that lurk in there.
About 20 metres away, a bloke with his wife sitting behind him is hooking way undersize bream and even smaller grunters.
I watched him for over an hour and he looks around each time and saunters up to his wife who also looks around and quickly hides each fish under a plastic bag, then looks around and transfers them to a backpack which obviously has a bucket inside.
He must have caught at least 20 of these tiddlers in the hour I was watching him.
I went up to him after an hour of watching this and asked how was the fishing..His answer..."haven't caught a thing mate'
My blood almost boiled!!
I had my mobile with me but I've been meaning to put the Fisheries Hotline number in my phone book but kept forgetting.
It's in there now and if I see this kind of thing again, I won't hesitate to drop a dime on these mongrels.
I was catching the same smallish bream and releasing..I even made a point of waiting until he was watching me once to show him that I release and how it's done...didn't seem to do any good though..he just kept on dragging out fish after fish and squirrelling them away...
Geez, but that makes me mad!!
BTW. I didn't get any lizards. but will keep trying.
Pete.
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Fished the lakes yesterday for some undersized whiting and bream. Lots of whiting around lately but no signs of flatties. Perhaps i'm going to the wrong spots. Tried my mullet trap again around different spots, but i'm still struggling to find any poddys! threw some bread in and only whiting would come chasing it. Still a fun day out catching some fish.
Fishing the lakes has become a weekly hobby for me now but will probably give the lakes a miss next week and give somewhere like botany a go.
Been fishing Narra Lake for the past 2 weeks on and off. Managed a few nice Tarwhine to 30cm but lots of undersized as well. I catch & release usually but on Friday, I had an order from Mother in Law
for a feed of fish, so caught 5 nice Tarwhine and a couple of decent sized Tailor...that has put me back in the good books with her for a while .LOLBeen all around the lake trying different spots trying for flatties but to no avail. Saw one bloke in a boat latch on to a beauty on Tuesday. Gave him a great fight trying to land this large lizard on 6lb line, only to get busted off right at his boat. He wasn't impressed!!
He was using live poddies.
I haven't seen that many poddies in the lake lately either. The best spot for them seems to be near the Ocean St. bridge near the caravan park.
Best bream spot lately seems to be Wimbledon Ave. using fresh white bait.
I'll persevere in the lake until I get a hold of one of those monster lizards.
Pete.
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How's this for a turtle tale??
From yesterday's Maitland Mercury:
Giant find surprise to Hunter fishermen
Wednesday, 1 March 2006
A giant green sea turtle has made its way from Townsville to Maitland surprising both fishermen and animal experts.
The 12kg salt water turtle, believed to be about 10 years old, was found in the Hunter River at East Maitland yesterday morning about 1500km from its natural habitat in Townsville.
Maitland fishermen David Pitman and Jimmy Hill found the turtle floating at 11am while fishing near Mr Hill's Pitnacree Road home.
At first the men thought the turtle was dead.
"We thought the turtle was dead and floating around but when he poked his head out we went and rescued him because we knew he was definitely in the wrong spot," Mr Pitman said.
"I mean, as fishermen we see a lot of smaller, long legged turtles but this was definitely a sea water creature - we just couldn't believe it.
"We even spoke to some older men who have been fishing in the area for more than 50 years and they said they had not seen anything like it."
And the experts couldn't agree more.
Sea turtle co-ordinator with the National Parks and Wildlife Trust Audrey Koosmen said the creature probably travelled on a warm water current from the ocean.
"Green sea turtles have showed up on occasion in Newcastle Harbour but we've never found one this far up," Ms Koosmen said.
"I can't believe it travelled this far - thank goodness the men discovered it."
But all is not well with the city's newest resident.
A vet in Raymond Terrace has diagnosed with turtle with a blood disorder and the creature is gravely ill.
"The turtle is quite sick and diseased which is a shame because these guys can live to be 80 or 100 years old," Ms Koosmen said.
However, if the turtle does survive it will be sent to Taronga Zoo in Sydney for rehabilitation before being tagged and released.
Cheers,
Pete.
for a feed of fish, so caught 5 nice Tarwhine and a couple of decent sized Tailor...that has put me back in the good books with her for a while .LOL
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Thanks Donna...looking forward to it