I"m keen to have a crack at them as well. I will be fishing off w-gong in 200 to 500fa. If I have any luck I"ll let you know. If any one reading is mad enough to spend all night over the back of the shelf send me a pm. 685 cruise craft twin 115. If the ocean is good browns is only an hour and a half from Bellambi ramp and would have to be the best bet. If your keen for another boat to head out with let me know. Cheers Don