fredd

thanks mate,ille give em a ring.

theres no doubt shimano make quality gear & if your happy with a reel then it doesnt matter if its made out of chewing gum & fencing wire.I think, however,at the lower end of the market bearing nos. do make a big difference in reel 'feel'.my original 'complaint' came after choosing a shimano crestfire over a daiwa cygnus.both reels were around $90 on special & both reels claimed to have 3 bearings.i chose the crestfire as i have other shimano gear that ime very happy with.after spooling up & casting around the backyard i realised the reel felt very dry.ide heard that bearings on new reels should be removed,degreased & re oiled to free them up.so i went looking for the bearings & only found 2,even reel schematics showed only 2.tackle store owner had no answer but gladly swaped crestfire for daiwa ,which felt much smoother on casting (as it definately has 3 bearings,easily found within reel & schematics).the fact is,if a reel has 2 bearings,advertise it as such.if it has 10 bearings,advertise it as such.consumers dont like being lied to.if someone from shimano has an explaination,lets hear it.

Thanks,well you know what they say,'theres three kinds of people in the world,those who can count & those who cant ' its obvious which group i belong to !! I hope theres as simple an explaination to the baitcaster/bearing question.

problem is,no stopper bearing is shown in schematics (see above link),just one roller & one ball bearing.

its got me buggered,i just checked out schematics for symtere 2500 & can only count 4 bearings (1roller-4ball)i know its sposed to have 5.count em yourself here, http://www.shimanofish.com.au/media/fishin...69830570370.pdf ,am i missing something? please explain!

it does appear to be there in black & white , 3 bearings claimed but only 2 showing on parts list.was kinda hopin' someone from shimano may have an explaination! surely theres some reel techs. out there who can explain.its driving me madd! wheres the bearings i paid for!!

check out the post on this forum re shimano bearings.not sure if this relates to threadline reels but it may be worth checking reel schematics for shimano (available on their website) & see if bearings claimed = actual bearings.

The crestfire is certainly not a one off reel & if you click link on original post you can view reel schematics (parts list). This list clearly shows only 2 bearings(1 ball bearing & 1 roller bearing).Ive also checked shimano schematics(available on their website) for more expensive models & found a discrepancy between claimed bearings & actual bearings.I really do hope theres a simple explaination for this as my die hard daiwa mate is giving me heaps!

I have heard that the amount of bearings shimano claims to have in its baitcasters is slightly exagerated.A simple example would be the crestfire,which claims to have 3 bearings but in fact appears to only have 2.Check reel docs. here http://www.shimanofish.com.au/media/fishin...69830571876.pdf Other reels dont add up either re bearing nos.(check your own docs. or shimanos site).Ime definately not anti shimano & own several of their reels,ide just like to think i got what i paid for.Anyone got a simple explaination for this?