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Had a hour to kill after work today and hadn’t been out for a while so headed down to the closest bit of water under Roseville bridge. While I’ve never had much luck there from the land it was that or nothing!
Still loving my float fishing at the moment and find when I use bait it always finds its way under one, and today was no different. Had some old frozen prawns I needed to use and got down at the peak of the high tide as it hit dusk.
Rigged up a prawn tail and threw it out under a float and settled in to watch the dusk reflect off the flat water. Wasn’t long till the float disappeared and when I struck there was nothing, tiddlers I thought pretty much what I expected really. A few more repeats and a few prawns down and to my surprise just as it was getting too dark to fish the float went under and this time I felt some weight and the drag was being pulled a bit! After a short fight I ended up with a nice little 28cm bream hooked in the corner of the mouth! A quick pic and threw him back to fight another day.
All in all was a good little session, worth the trip for sure
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Sounds like some fun if someone can manage to hook one of them !
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Once again you've given the best information, ive found your other post with directions on getting there and have started a folder with all the information that's been provided so i can refer back to it easily. If every thing goes to plan i intend to have a look for some weed on the rocks or gullies around this weekend/next week and give the wall a fish next week or two depending on work, ill leave the crack for a while till I'm back in the groove as it sounds a bit more technically difficult but definitely a place i look forward to trying once I'm more confident
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Thanks macman that’s good info on the spit, will put it to work.
I agree the parking in that area is a pain would visit there more if it wasn’t as bad !
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Well since your offering waz, I’d love the details about whites rock or “the crack” as it sounds like my kind of place, nice and quiet, I hate fishing with people watching or in crowds. Just isn’t fun for me.
And thanks again, I really can’t thank you enough, the details you provided are the difference between a fun day and many frustrating ones trying to work it all out myself.
Feel free to PM the info if you want to keep it quiet
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Hi awesome information thanks for that ! With Bradley’s head is the rock wall you refer to, is that the jetty like one going out right in front of the amphitheater (1)
I’ll stay away from white rock,s as I’ll be fishing alone and don’t want to take any risk getting washed in off rocks
thanks again that’s invaluable information you’ve provided ????
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Hi All,
So im planning to do a bit of black fish fishing in Sydney as things slow down over the cooler months on SP’s, I’ve done a little back in Newcastle years ago so between the wealth of information on fishraider and my past experience I have some basic idea what I’m doing with rig/technique.
But I have two questions,
locations : I’ve picked up a few from posts and thought I’d try balls head reserve (if I can figure out the track leading to the water) or spit bridge. With spit bridge what area is best (was thinking 3 but not sure) and what tide, rising or falling or both? For both locations.
and bait: what is the best type of weed, string or rock lettuce for spit and balls head locations?
Thanks for your prized information as I know spots are usually not given away easily hence choosing two quite well known ones to get me back in the swing of it.
Thanks
Dave
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Ps watch the sharks on Stockton beach it’s known for its white pointers, big ones too.
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I used to live up that way have caught many luderick from the Harbour side of the Stockton break wall about 2/3 of the way up, used the string green weed size 10 green hook. You used to be able to get for free at here
not sure if it’s still around but handy to call in to on your way if coming from inland.
From the end you can get a lot of stuff, just watch the waves
hope this helps
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Nice work on that bream ??
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1 hour ago, blaxland said:
You could also try a live bait under a bobby cork in that area, as it cools down john dory will be around. Taylor and Kings possible jews closer to the bottom.
Didn’t think John Dory would be beyond the spit, would be an awesome catch if I did.
Would you set the float bait about 2m off the bottom or would you miss the kings and tailor down there as the deep water is pretty close to land 2m vertical drop from shore then getting to 10m+ Depth within casting distance I’d guess , or would it be better about 4m below the surface.
Not after anything specific really just want my best chance at a bend in the rod and some fun.
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8 hours ago, wazatherfisherman said:
G'day Turtletown try this rig:- ball sinker on mainline,small bead(to stop sinker getting stuck on swivel) then swivel. Then 60cm(any longer you start losing casting distance) fluorocarbon leader in 25-30lb range then 2 snooded suicide(octopus) 4/0 or 5/0's.
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If you like you could substitute the snooded hooks for a set of either 2 or 3 ganged hooks roughly 4/0 "Mustad 8260 or 4200 patterns (depending on yellowtail size). This set-up has worked for me for many years live-baiting on the bottom in the harbour
Ok, thanks might try that as it’s simpler, never heard of ganged hooks on a live bait though, will stick with the snooded setup .
5/0 hook looks huge compared to what I’m used to using (6-1/0) lol thought I’d miss fish using that size but I’ll take your word for it and get some !
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Hi brains trust,
Iv'e never done live baiting so I've read a lot of posts and information on it and have come up with what i think is a reasonable rig covering most options and using what i have available plus buying a few little extras and wonder if i should change anything. The main intent of it is i fish shore based between spit bridge and Roseville bridge mostly and I often get a few Yakka 10-20cm around and thought id throw one out while i was using my small rod with bait or SP's, so i assume id be getting Flathead, tailor, Bonito, school jew, kings and possibly a shark (happy for sharks over 1m to bite my rig off and disappear) mainly in that area? but nothing huge.
So my current rod is a 6-10kg 10ft rod i use on the beach but i intend to get 7ft version at some point for this, 6000 eggbeater reel currently with straight 20lb mono (soon to be backed with 30lb braid leaving 50-100m of 20lb mono on the top). The rig would be a black 3way swivel with on a 60cm 10lb mono trace going to a sinker off one side and a 40cm fluorocarbon 15lb trace going to a 2/0 Gamakatsu Octopus Circle hook then linked to another hook with 7 strand black 20lb coated wire. I was going to pin the yakka through the nose or shoulder with the first hook and above the lateral line in the tail with the last hook. The idea of having a lighter line to the sinker is so it can be sacrificial if it gets caught in rocks and the wire is to stop tailor as they would most prob bite the tail off first.
If you can make sense of that description does it sound ok? Any improvements without spending big money? Should i change the last hook through the tail to a normal Gamakatsu Octopus hook to improve hookups on tailor?
Thanks
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1 hour ago, Aardvarking said:
Forgot to mention, when tying them on I try to get the length so it's just short enough not to reach the front treble, and I feel that seems to be the right length for a good hookup, and means less tangling.
Thanks for that, will try this myself!
You may have started a trend!
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Good to hear your progress, What brand assist hooks did you end up using or are you still making your own?
If so do you mind letting us know the hook size/type, braid strength and length from the lure to the hook you are finding works for you?
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Just be careful how much fish you eat that side of the harbor bridge as mentioned before.
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Leather jackets are considered good eating for sure, my trouble has been getting them big enough to get a good size fillet off.
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Nice ! where did you catch them if you don't mind, Ive been struggling to find edible sized leatherjackets, only getting small ones in the spots Ive tried so far. looking forward to a nice feed of LJ"s mmmm ...
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Looks like the size of fish i usually catch lol, plenty that big, not so easy getting the bigger ones from my experience so far.
keep on trying, follow the advice above and your luck will turn.
P.S. i wouldn't eat the fish west of the harbor bridge if i was you due to dioxins the following link has more info if your not already aware https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fishing/recreational/fishing-skills/fishing-in-sydney-harbour
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That’s great news, congratulations on the nice fish and thanks for giving us a report on your progress. Has made me think I must try the assist hooks myself, now I’ve only got to find a spot where the fish are lol
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That Sand flats guy recamends Atomic brand, most probably others just as good. Will be interested hearing how you go with them
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1 hour ago, Volitan said:
thinking about this from the basics.
basically, it opens its mouth and lunges at the popper, but the popper is pushed aside by the bow wave created in front of the fish. Every time.
You can see what is happening if you put some small, floaty objects in a bathtub of water and try to catch them in a cup. Every time you try to catch them in the cup they are simply pushed aside. The water already in the cup and the bow wave in front of the cup prevent entry. Think of the bream with a wide open mouth as a cup.
its the same with the surface lure. The problem is made worse because the lures are so lightweight and easily moved by the bow wave.
That’s a very detailed and informative post, had never thought about it like that but it makes perfect sense. I like your thinking Volitan
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Try replacing the rear treble with assist hooks, I’ve heard the atomic ones are good. Helps with hookups and easier to remove as well.
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Sounds like it’s starting to fire up now it’s open, did you get the bream and Flathead at the front or back of the lagoon?
Where do poddies go in winter?
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An interesting question that I would be interested in as well