got one myself to play with a while ago...loaded it with 4lb nitlon and 2nd cast WOOOOFF splatter lose line fall of after 1 retrieve.. thought to my self..go figure..serve me right for buying a shimano..BUT i persisted and bumped up to 6lb nitlon. the bit of extra bulk in the line makes a massive difference and havent had a problem since...
over all im pretty impressed with them, thay have made some great improvments, so from a daiwa man ill give it 1 thumb up out of a possible 2...
oh and they look quite spiffy as well...thats always a bonus !