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    Any Jewies Caught Last Night?

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    Yeah Dougs your pretty keen mate.I wish i was as motivated as you.Youre right Jewhunter,didnt look at the bloody moon phase did i? Dead giveaway i only catch soapies in the smaller sizes.LOL.Ive been shown up already.Yeah ive actually had dreams or sweaty nightmares of catching that famous Captain Cook bridge Jewie.25-35kg would be nice.Now im really starting to get excited being privilidged to fish and learn from a couple of fishing gurus.Ill definately take you up on that one Byron.I dont have a big boat,but i reckon it may just do what we want.Yeah well ive got big ears and a small mouth.I listen alot and dont talk much. LMAO.Ill send some pics to you to see if its suitable for you blokes.

    Barometric Pressure For Squidding?

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    Gday raiders.Just wondering if negative barometric/low pressure system conditions would have an effect on squid? Would it affect them? And has anyone noticed if their catches of squid are higher during conducive conditions according to the barometer? Just a thought. Youve opened a a whole new world jewgaffer.Lol. Thanks.

    Heres a little something i found that may be of use to someone.

    Pressure, whether in the air or in the ocean, is expressed by scientists as units of “atmosphere.” One atmosphere is defined as the pressure caused by the weight of all the overlying air at sea level—or 14.7 pounds per square inch (psi). Atmospheric pressure is often called barometric pressure because it can be measured by the height of the mercury column in a barometer. Changes in barometric pressure, therefore, indicate capricious weather. In general, low-pressure systems bring unstable conditions, often with precipitation and clouds. A rising barometer means high-pressure is approaching, the harbinger of stable and clear skies.

    How much do fish respond to these day-to-day fluctuations? Consider that a normal value for barometric pressure is about 30 inches. Strong high pressure is about 30.70 inches. A powerful low, such as during a hurricane, can reach down to 28 inches or less. The difference between these two extremes (2.7 inches of barometric pressure) is equal to about .09 atmospheres. The barometric pressure difference from a simple passing cold front is only about .06 atmospheres.

    The rate of a falling barometer also tells us how fast a low-pressure storm is approaching. A slow-moving storm would have a dip of about .02 to .03 inches of barometric pressure per hour; a fast-moving storm will drop the barometer about 0.05 to 0.06 inches per hour.

    Simply stated, barometric pressure does not change quickly enough to magically turn the bite on or off. It certainly is one of the ingredients in the overall weather process, but temperature, cloud cover, wind direction and speed, and humidity can also affect fishing conditions. More importantly, the rate and amount of change in barometric pressure is insignificant compared to what’s going on below the surface.

    Beneath The Squeeze

    Pressure in the ocean, called hydrostatic pressure, increases with depth due to the weight of the overlying water. Water is almost 800 times denser than air; thus, hydrostatic pressure increases much more rapidly than atmospheric pressure. If you swim or dive just a few feet below the water’s surface, you feel this rapid increase in pressure.

    At a depth of just 32.8 feet in the ocean, the hydrostatic pressure is equal to the pressure from the entire weight of the earth’s atmosphere as measured in pounds per square inch. In other words, at 32.8 feet, the total pressure, due to the weight of both the atmosphere and the water, is two atmospheres. At 65.6 feet it’s 3 atmospheres, and so forth.

    Fish can tolerate hydrostatic pressure because they have a swim bladder containing a volume of gas, which they adjust to equal their environment. This enables most fish to comfortably make small and quick up or down movements in the water column.

    In the ocean, four main factors can change the hydrostatic pressure in the fish’s world. First, a fish naturally changes pressure around itself by making movements associated with feeding, swimming about, avoiding predators or trying to loose a hook. A small move can result in a relatively large pressure variation. For example, going up or down just 3.28 feet will decrease or increase the pressure on a fish by 1/10 of an atmosphere. One tenth of an atmosphere exceeds any reasonable change that might occur due to a fluctuation in barometric pressure. Equally important, when barometric pressure rises or falls, it can take more than a day to equal the change in hydrostatic pressure that a fish experiences in seconds during its normal up or down movements.

    Second, tides can alter hydrostatic pressure. Assuming the fish stays in the same position, even a small three-foot rise in tide will increase the hydrostatic pressure by about 0.09 atmospheres. A low tide would decrease the hydrostatic pressure by a similar amount. Thus, within about a six-hour period from high to low tide, a fish would experience a fall of about .18 atmospheres of pressure. This is about twice what could be expected from the barometric pressure going through a major drop during a hurricane.

    Third, waves make rapid and continuous changes in hydrostatic pressure. Two-foot waves, for example, will produce a change in pressure of about .06 atmospheres. This rapid change correlates to the period of the waves—about four to six seconds. Higher pressure comes when the crest passes; lower pressure occurs under the trough. When a storm approaches a coastal area, the waves, and the increase in hydrostatic pressure, will be considerably higher than during calm-weather periods.

    The weight of the air itself is the fourth influence on hydrostatic pressure, but its effect is quite gradual. Barometric pressure associated with a major storm will dip (depending on the system’s rate of speed) by only .002 to .02 atmospheres per hour. This gives fish considerable time to make any necessary adjustments. When compared to the effects of the tide, waves, and normal movements of the fish in the water column, changes in hydrostatic pressure caused by barometric-pressure are trivial for saltwater fish. Even a dramatic change in the barometer will be lost to the everyday pressure changes experienced by fish under normal oceanographic conditions.

    It’s a happy notion that one could simply consult the mercury column each morning to know whether it’s a better day for work or fishing, but it’s unlikely that barometric pressure alone can trigger the sudden bite that angling’s common wisdom often asserts.

    A Look At The Barometric Pressure Over The Past 10 Days

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    Hi Everyone

    I thought I would do a new topic in reference to estuary fishing over the past ten days or so, and as a natural flow on from an unusual trough in between the weather fronts since Christmas, what I think the rest of summer will bring for our Estuary Raiders.

    A few members have managed to work a bit harder and do better than others and dig out a few estuary fish over the last couple of days of this ongoing low pressure caused by a lingering trough which has kept results down to a minimum due to the barometric pressure remaining down between 1000 and a low 1005 milibars for so long - i.e. a good 10 points below the normal 1016 milibars which is regarded as the pressure for having normal weather and the reading required for getting normal fishing results ... Nevertheless normal conditions are still dependent on the ability of the fisherpersons themselves and the locations they fish.

    Normal fishing has been long accepted as times when barometric pressure rises or falls to around 1016 milibars and at the onset of that and going into a couple of tides at that reading before the bite rate starts to slow up again until the next fluctation and/or wind change or a sudden storm or a bout of rain that hasn't been forecast to occur ...... AND another good reason to fish on thru the rain and find shelter from wind and turbulence in the same place/s where fish would also seek shelter should surprise conditions or otherwise happen to continue as such....

    We've had about ten days in a row now where the pressure has dropped right down on a few of those days to below 990 milibars including the natural drop of around 4-6 milibars during the night air - i.e. if night pressure and early morning pressure are close to one another by comparing the late afternoon pressure with the early morning reading, the pressure has actually risen 4-6 milibars at some stage during the night ... the fluctation should be depicted as either a night rise or an early morning rise and is still a desirable fluctation and assists the night fishing if you are on the water at the time and a rise before dawn livens up the early morning bite rate as well .... Low pressure can have a massive affect on the swim bladders of estuary fish that are normally comfortable in the shallows....there has not been all that many good results lately in estuarys even at middling depths and in the deepwater as well which gives estuary fish the relief they need from the pressure above.

    Extreme low pressure systems and long periods of average low pressure readings remaining around 1008 - 1006 milibars without fluctation can not only slow down the bite rate, but estuary fish, whilst being comfortable feeding at most depths under normal pressure conditions are actually unable to digest their food during severe bouts of low pressure...... Even top tournament fishermen have to work hard to meet the weigh in requirements in these types of constant low pressure readings and in some cases only a small percentage of competitors catch any fish at all, particularly fishing for bream ..... Pelagics and natural bottom dwellers are not affected to the same extent, although some days during ongoing low pressure readings even natural bottom fossickers shut down in estuarys.......

    Normally this time of year gives good summer barometric pressure readings going up by way of either sudden spikes in the system or steady rises to around 1030 milibars and steadying around that figure which gives us a good chance to next target the early wind change periods and fish in the direction of the new wind. A wind change tends to liven up the bite, and when the air pressure becomes too constant, it leads to a slow down in the bite rate and on some days causes fish to shutdown until the start of the next fluctuation and when the pressure is a rising fluctuation coming out of a low and so on.....

    Ongoing conditions day after day steadily reduce the bite periods just as they are are governed by the tides but for much longer periods...

    Fish being as they are feed spasmodically in accordance with tidal affect which governs the best bite period for each species.... Fish stock up their food when they feel the need to allow for unsuitable conditions which generally affect them and not us - in that we may have nice conditions for going outdoors and boating even tho most fishermen have a tendency to disregard the elements that led to their previous experiences with shutdown periods and just go out and have a nice day on the water all the same......

    Having said that, there should be a lot of general action as soon as the present low pressure of 1005 and steady starts to rise... It is only natural that estuary compatable fish will snap out of their present mode as soon as the pressure starts to rise to at least normal atmospheric conditions that produce readings around 1016 milibars which has long been considered as being condusive to producing normal fishing results.... Albeit normal fishing conditions can still be difficult in getting decent results when fishing in areas where there is an overall shortage of fish or decent size fish.

    Take a look at the change to a north easterly aspect for the coming Saturday as predicted on Seabreeze as far as doing an overnighter and as far as having a 2pm start is concerned..... The top it all off factor for Saturday is the big question and that is will the pressure start to rise dramatically as it should by then..... and also watch for what time such a hoped for natural pressure rise does occur as that would determine the need to decide whether or not you should have an am or a pm start which should show in the barometric pressure readings by Friday....... Early next week just before and as the weather hots up also looks good at this stage and it would be great to be there during the wind change plus a pressure fluctation to boost the fishing along for you.

    I believe we will have a particularly good summer this year given the cooler outside temperatures compared to the current warm temperatures in our estuarys which will bring a lot of fish and estuary compatable pelagics into the Sydney systems and I'll bet there will be a lot of shark alarms in our beach areas as well.

    Have a Happy New Year Everyone & I wish you all a very successful year for 2009! :thumbup:

    Cheers

    jewgaffer :1fishing1:

    Top Post as usual Jewgaffer.Funny how you mentioned about the sharks coming in.There were 3 sighted close to 3 Sydney eastern suburbs beaches today.Including 2 hammerheads.Man you know your stuff.Thanks for sharing that mate.

    The Bays Artificial Reefs

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    Yeah.Theyve been there for a while.They would have some good growth on em.Should be producing some results by now.Looks like the Fisheries study on em may be a dud.Should be conducting our own study.The Bay fishos study.Lol.Seeing we fish there regurlarly. Wonder how the others that were put in elsewhere are goin? I read somewhere on here that a Raider didnt have much luck at all.With the Port expansion and all the damage that its goin to do.How can they possibly conduct a study when thats goin on? And the Desal plant around the corner at Kurnell.Fair dinkum.What are they doin with our fishing license fees? Definatletly makes you wonder.What do yas reckon? Thanks.

    Yakkas In The Bay

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    did u catch any kingies?

    if so, where?

    and how did u catch the yakkas at towra?

    Hey Fisheroo.Just go around Towra weed beds on the edges where it meets the sand.Anchor up and burley with bread and pilchards,but make it real fine so they dont get bloody full of your burley.And after a while they will come to you.Just use a small hook with some pilly on it,and a splitshot sinker about 30 cm above the hook.They love it.Perfect size too.Downrigging,and trolling with yakkas around Mol pt,the markers and the lighthouse are pretty crazy at times.The Kings are getting much bigger than last season.And theyll be bigger again next season.Its only a matter of time before the Kingy traps come back in.Theyll be in plague proportion within the next ten years.I wont be going out for a while as my bloody gearbox on the outboard is gettting rebuilt.Ill take some pics when i go out next mate. I fair dinkum love the Bay and the Georges.Top fish in this system.Thanks.

    Shark Canonball

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    Yeah gidday fishlexic,i was starting to think that nobody knew what i was taliking about.So it definately improved your mates results.A certain charter boat operator in Sydney swears by them.Saying the side with the Shark on gets followed all the time,and the side with the ball gets ignored.Watching it through StrikeVision.Thanks for your feedback mate.

    Shark Canonball

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    Gidday raiders.Im wondering if anyone has had any experiences with the Shark canonball used for downrigging? Ive been checking it out on the net and have just bought a 10 pound one.Theres also a video on Youtube showing it in action,under Shark canonball.Im sure the regular lead ball and the other ones around dont attract the predators to the bait or lure like this does. Thanks.

    Bay Kings

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    Yeah,gidday slayer,i try to keep a close eye on where the line is when hooked up,and try to make sure it clears any problems around the boat.Im just out the front. anchored around 50ft out from the wall on the eastern side.Im just starting with anchoring and fishing for them till i get up some experience on what they can do.As long as there are bait schools it seems like this spot is ok to have a go at them.Ive put in about 4 hours there for 2 bust offs and one landed.Gidday Cam,well that explains that.No wonder they like it there.How far out does it get less snaggy? Hey pluggers,thats pretty heavy duty fishin mate.Gees it must of been a monster king.Yeah,your arms and shoulders wouldve been gone after that.I know now that i dont like overhead reels for sure.Its hard enough fighting a decent fish ,without having to deal with the roll from side to side of the rod while trying to get line on the fish.Threadline reels are easier to use without having to worry about the bloody overhead rolling in my hands.Thats the reason why i lost the fish.Too much rolling.Its fine when i troll with it for other fish,but not for kings.Will post next attempt at them shortly. Thanks fellas. :05:

    Bay Kings

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    Went out to the bay yesterday arvo around 3 30pm with the frozen southern squid out the front of Molineaux.Conditions were pretty ordinary with plenty of nor easter wind swell making things rough.Dead low tide.Again, big bait schools on the sounder.Dropped the heads down.Half hour later the overhead with 20kg line gets a take.Just coudnt keep its head away from what seems like reef.Thirty seconds of pounding to be busted off with ease.Trace and all.The harder i pull, the harder they pull.Whats the go with that? On the sounder it shows a flat bottom over where im fishing with bait schools constantly moving through.I drop my baits straight down, out the back of the boat.When i fight them,they always bust me off right under the boat on something.Ive seen videos of anglers fighting local kings with ease.Not the bloody ones im hooking at Molineaux.They go hard from the start.Gave it another hour with nothing and headed back in.Has anyone had the same experience there? Thanks.

    First Kingfish Session In The Bay.

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    Gidday,ive recovered physically,and am ready for round 2 with the kings.Im bloody geed up,with all you blokes spurrin me on.Jewgaffer,that is one hell of a setup.Id love to see it in action.Talk about being self sufficent and convenient.Thanks for the tips on the arrows and yakkas.Ill be into the livies on Thursday.I think theres a southerly forecast for the same day.Gotta be in it,to win it.I bought a couple of Scotty 1050 downriggers a while ago.Pretty keen to get the live bait catching going to give a downrigger a decent go.I plan on downrigging Molineaux,the drums,markers and wherever else i can find em.If conditions allow.Im just learning as i go,and have picked up heaps of tips from the raiders through reading.Definately a friendly lot.Will keep you blokes posted.

    First Kingfish Session In The Bay.

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    Gidday anglers,and thanks for the support.Great tips on the point jewgaffer.Ill definately take that info onboard for next time out.Just gotta get over the bloody lower back and left shoulder.That setup there looks comfortable.How much would you be looking at for one of them? And i dont get the double holder setup.Ill see how i go next time i get some action jewgaffer and see how i hold up.From Georges river bream fishing, straight to runaway freight train Kingies. If i could only remember to bend me bloody knees next time, not be on me knees.Lol.Will be out in the bay again shortly,and will let you guys know.I just put in a live bait tank.Are there any reliable squid spots in the bay? Ive got every type of jig but havent used em.I paid $35 for 5 large Hawksbury river green eyed squid. But id rather jig some up.Or would it be better to just use yakkas? Thanks.

    First Kingfish Session In The Bay.

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    Gidday to all.I went out to the bay today for my first kingfish session around 2 30pm out the front or eastern side of Molineaux point.Plenty of activity on the sounder in the form of baitfish starting from just 5ft under the boat.Turned out to be yakkas.Concentrated around the marked 140 on the rockwall,around 40ft out,and dropped anchor.I had previously bought some green eyed squid from the tackle shop.Gees im already gettin lazy with the squid.Damn expensive though.Wasnt expecting too much.Being late in the day and frozen squid. Put a head on the baitrunner and a strip on the overhead in about 35ft of water,tide was half run out.Dropped em straight out the back,put em in the holders,and sat back.About 20 minutes later the baitrunner with the head on starts to buckle.I wish somebody told me that kingfish and a bad back dont go together.Total mayhem,grabbed the rod started fighting on what i thought was a tight drag.PING,cut right above the hook.Rebaited with another head,around half an hour later the head goes off again.Grab the rod but this time i knuckled down on the drag beforehand.Fought like mad.Was thinking,when is this gonna bloody stop.But i was in fishing heaven at the time. :1fishing1: Heres some pics.Went 68cm and fat.Stomach was empty.That was FUN.

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    George River 12/12 & 13/12 Jews Whiting And Bream

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    Gidday Yabbiehunter,yeah that would be a good idea the live poddy or as they say for jewies,the bigger the bait the bigger the jewie.Maybe a larger mullet say 8-10 inch variety would get a ripper.Hey,top and bottom of the tide leading up to a full moon around structure like Captain cook bridge.And while your waiting for the big run,you can throw Storm plastics around the pylons.I reckon thatll get em goin.Gees,with any luck within 10 years we will be catching jewies everytime we go out,lol.I wish.

    George River 12/12 & 13/12 Jews Whiting And Bream

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    Gidday Yabbiehunter,and thanks for your welcome.I hope that i can maybe learn something and maybe provide some useful reports and info to the forums.You blokes are to blame for me buying bloody downriggers and digital sounders.And thats not to mention all those bloody squid jigs too,lol. You blokes are gonna send me broke.Or the missus is gonna leave.Or both.

    Gidday Johnno.Thanks mate.Gees you blokes are friendly.

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