sydfisher

Good job bulldog.Good ole middle of the bay bream.

Top kingie boys.Theyre getting bigger every season.Wont be long till the kingfish traps will be back.

Yeah Dougs your pretty keen mate.I wish i was as motivated as you.Youre right Jewhunter,didnt look at the bloody moon phase did i? Dead giveaway i only catch soapies in the smaller sizes.LOL.Ive been shown up already.Yeah ive actually had dreams or sweaty nightmares of catching that famous Captain Cook bridge Jewie.25-35kg would be nice.Now im really starting to get excited being privilidged to fish and learn from a couple of fishing gurus.Ill definately take you up on that one Byron.I dont have a big boat,but i reckon it may just do what we want.Yeah well ive got big ears and a small mouth.I listen alot and dont talk much. LMAO.Ill send some pics to you to see if its suitable for you blokes.

Gees someone must have got a Jewie last night/early morning.Seemed like conditions would be good.High barometric pressure,hight tide 3.30am.Or are you fellas keeping them secret? Lol.

1020 fish a plenty.TOP CATCH BOYS.

Gday raiders.Just wondering if negative barometric/low pressure system conditions would have an effect on squid? Would it affect them? And has anyone noticed if their catches of squid are higher during conducive conditions according to the barometer? Just a thought. Youve opened a a whole new world jewgaffer.Lol. Thanks. Heres a little something i found that may be of use to someone. Pressure, whether in the air or in the ocean, is expressed by scientists as units of “atmosphere.” One atmosphere is defined as the pressure caused by the weight of all the overlying air at sea level—or 14.7 pounds per square inch (psi). Atmospheric pressure is often called barometric pressure because it can be measured by the height of the mercury column in a barometer. Changes in barometric pressure, therefore, indicate capricious weather. In general, low-pressure systems bring unstable conditions, often with precipitation and clouds. A rising barometer means high-pressure is approaching, the harbinger of stable and clear skies. How much do fish respond to these day-to-day fluctuations? Consider that a normal value for barometric pressure is about 30 inches. Strong high pressure is about 30.70 inches. A powerful low, such as during a hurricane, can reach down to 28 inches or less. The difference between these two extremes (2.7 inches of barometric pressure) is equal to about .09 atmospheres. The barometric pressure difference from a simple passing cold front is only about .06 atmospheres. The rate of a falling barometer also tells us how fast a low-pressure storm is approaching. A slow-moving storm would have a dip of about .02 to .03 inches of barometric pressure per hour; a fast-moving storm will drop the barometer about 0.05 to 0.06 inches per hour. Simply stated, barometric pressure does not change quickly enough to magically turn the bite on or off. It certainly is one of the ingredients in the overall weather process, but temperature, cloud cover, wind direction and speed, and humidity can also affect fishing conditions. More importantly, the rate and amount of change in barometric pressure is insignificant compared to what’s going on below the surface. Beneath The Squeeze Pressure in the ocean, called hydrostatic pressure, increases with depth due to the weight of the overlying water. Water is almost 800 times denser than air; thus, hydrostatic pressure increases much more rapidly than atmospheric pressure. If you swim or dive just a few feet below the water’s surface, you feel this rapid increase in pressure. At a depth of just 32.8 feet in the ocean, the hydrostatic pressure is equal to the pressure from the entire weight of the earth’s atmosphere as measured in pounds per square inch. In other words, at 32.8 feet, the total pressure, due to the weight of both the atmosphere and the water, is two atmospheres. At 65.6 feet it’s 3 atmospheres, and so forth. Fish can tolerate hydrostatic pressure because they have a swim bladder containing a volume of gas, which they adjust to equal their environment. This enables most fish to comfortably make small and quick up or down movements in the water column. In the ocean, four main factors can change the hydrostatic pressure in the fish’s world. First, a fish naturally changes pressure around itself by making movements associated with feeding, swimming about, avoiding predators or trying to loose a hook. A small move can result in a relatively large pressure variation. For example, going up or down just 3.28 feet will decrease or increase the pressure on a fish by 1/10 of an atmosphere. One tenth of an atmosphere exceeds any reasonable change that might occur due to a fluctuation in barometric pressure. Equally important, when barometric pressure rises or falls, it can take more than a day to equal the change in hydrostatic pressure that a fish experiences in seconds during its normal up or down movements. Second, tides can alter hydrostatic pressure. Assuming the fish stays in the same position, even a small three-foot rise in tide will increase the hydrostatic pressure by about 0.09 atmospheres. A low tide would decrease the hydrostatic pressure by a similar amount. Thus, within about a six-hour period from high to low tide, a fish would experience a fall of about .18 atmospheres of pressure. This is about twice what could be expected from the barometric pressure going through a major drop during a hurricane. Third, waves make rapid and continuous changes in hydrostatic pressure. Two-foot waves, for example, will produce a change in pressure of about .06 atmospheres. This rapid change correlates to the period of the waves—about four to six seconds. Higher pressure comes when the crest passes; lower pressure occurs under the trough. When a storm approaches a coastal area, the waves, and the increase in hydrostatic pressure, will be considerably higher than during calm-weather periods. The weight of the air itself is the fourth influence on hydrostatic pressure, but its effect is quite gradual. Barometric pressure associated with a major storm will dip (depending on the system’s rate of speed) by only .002 to .02 atmospheres per hour. This gives fish considerable time to make any necessary adjustments. When compared to the effects of the tide, waves, and normal movements of the fish in the water column, changes in hydrostatic pressure caused by barometric-pressure are trivial for saltwater fish. Even a dramatic change in the barometer will be lost to the everyday pressure changes experienced by fish under normal oceanographic conditions. It’s a happy notion that one could simply consult the mercury column each morning to know whether it’s a better day for work or fishing, but it’s unlikely that barometric pressure alone can trigger the sudden bite that angling’s common wisdom often asserts.

Get yourself a Downrigger mate.And learn how to use it properly.Youll love it.

Top Post as usual Jewgaffer.Funny how you mentioned about the sharks coming in.There were 3 sighted close to 3 Sydney eastern suburbs beaches today.Including 2 hammerheads.Man you know your stuff.Thanks for sharing that mate.

Yeah.Theyve been there for a while.They would have some good growth on em.Should be producing some results by now.Looks like the Fisheries study on em may be a dud.Should be conducting our own study.The Bay fishos study.Lol.Seeing we fish there regurlarly. Wonder how the others that were put in elsewhere are goin? I read somewhere on here that a Raider didnt have much luck at all.With the Port expansion and all the damage that its goin to do.How can they possibly conduct a study when thats goin on? And the Desal plant around the corner at Kurnell.Fair dinkum.What are they doin with our fishing license fees? Definatletly makes you wonder.What do yas reckon? Thanks.

Hey fellas,waswondering if anyones had any success in Botany bays 6 artificial reefs that were placed a while ago.Good for yakkas.But how about any other species? Thanks Raiders.So much knowledge here i love it.

Hey Fisheroo.Just go around Towra weed beds on the edges where it meets the sand.Anchor up and burley with bread and pilchards,but make it real fine so they dont get bloody full of your burley.And after a while they will come to you.Just use a small hook with some pilly on it,and a splitshot sinker about 30 cm above the hook.They love it.Perfect size too.Downrigging,and trolling with yakkas around Mol pt,the markers and the lighthouse are pretty crazy at times.The Kings are getting much bigger than last season.And theyll be bigger again next season.Its only a matter of time before the Kingy traps come back in.Theyll be in plague proportion within the next ten years.I wont be going out for a while as my bloody gearbox on the outboard is gettting rebuilt.Ill take some pics when i go out next mate. I fair dinkum love the Bay and the Georges.Top fish in this system.Thanks.

I just answered my own question.Loads of yakkas at Towra.And plenty of Kings to eat them.

Gday Raiders.Was wondering if any yakkas hang around Towra,or is it too shallow for them?

Yeah gidday fishlexic,i was starting to think that nobody knew what i was taliking about.So it definately improved your mates results.A certain charter boat operator in Sydney swears by them.Saying the side with the Shark on gets followed all the time,and the side with the ball gets ignored.Watching it through StrikeVision.Thanks for your feedback mate.

Gidday raiders.Im wondering if anyone has had any experiences with the Shark canonball used for downrigging? Ive been checking it out on the net and have just bought a 10 pound one.Theres also a video on Youtube showing it in action,under Shark canonball.Im sure the regular lead ball and the other ones around dont attract the predators to the bait or lure like this does. Thanks.

Yeah,gidday slayer,i try to keep a close eye on where the line is when hooked up,and try to make sure it clears any problems around the boat.Im just out the front. anchored around 50ft out from the wall on the eastern side.Im just starting with anchoring and fishing for them till i get up some experience on what they can do.As long as there are bait schools it seems like this spot is ok to have a go at them.Ive put in about 4 hours there for 2 bust offs and one landed.Gidday Cam,well that explains that.No wonder they like it there.How far out does it get less snaggy? Hey pluggers,thats pretty heavy duty fishin mate.Gees it must of been a monster king.Yeah,your arms and shoulders wouldve been gone after that.I know now that i dont like overhead reels for sure.Its hard enough fighting a decent fish ,without having to deal with the roll from side to side of the rod while trying to get line on the fish.Threadline reels are easier to use without having to worry about the bloody overhead rolling in my hands.Thats the reason why i lost the fish.Too much rolling.Its fine when i troll with it for other fish,but not for kings.Will post next attempt at them shortly. Thanks fellas.

Went out to the bay yesterday arvo around 3 30pm with the frozen southern squid out the front of Molineaux.Conditions were pretty ordinary with plenty of nor easter wind swell making things rough.Dead low tide.Again, big bait schools on the sounder.Dropped the heads down.Half hour later the overhead with 20kg line gets a take.Just coudnt keep its head away from what seems like reef.Thirty seconds of pounding to be busted off with ease.Trace and all.The harder i pull, the harder they pull.Whats the go with that? On the sounder it shows a flat bottom over where im fishing with bait schools constantly moving through.I drop my baits straight down, out the back of the boat.When i fight them,they always bust me off right under the boat on something.Ive seen videos of anglers fighting local kings with ease.Not the bloody ones im hooking at Molineaux.They go hard from the start.Gave it another hour with nothing and headed back in.Has anyone had the same experience there? Thanks.

Gidday,ive recovered physically,and am ready for round 2 with the kings.Im bloody geed up,with all you blokes spurrin me on.Jewgaffer,that is one hell of a setup.Id love to see it in action.Talk about being self sufficent and convenient.Thanks for the tips on the arrows and yakkas.Ill be into the livies on Thursday.I think theres a southerly forecast for the same day.Gotta be in it,to win it.I bought a couple of Scotty 1050 downriggers a while ago.Pretty keen to get the live bait catching going to give a downrigger a decent go.I plan on downrigging Molineaux,the drums,markers and wherever else i can find em.If conditions allow.Im just learning as i go,and have picked up heaps of tips from the raiders through reading.Definately a friendly lot.Will keep you blokes posted.

Gidday anglers,and thanks for the support.Great tips on the point jewgaffer.Ill definately take that info onboard for next time out.Just gotta get over the bloody lower back and left shoulder.That setup there looks comfortable.How much would you be looking at for one of them? And i dont get the double holder setup.Ill see how i go next time i get some action jewgaffer and see how i hold up.From Georges river bream fishing, straight to runaway freight train Kingies. If i could only remember to bend me bloody knees next time, not be on me knees.Lol.Will be out in the bay again shortly,and will let you guys know.I just put in a live bait tank.Are there any reliable squid spots in the bay? Ive got every type of jig but havent used em.I paid $35 for 5 large Hawksbury river green eyed squid. But id rather jig some up.Or would it be better to just use yakkas? Thanks.

Gidday Flightmanager.Youre not wrong.Ya reckon those rod holders that you strap around your waist would help? Thanks.

Gidday Slayer.Thanks mate.

Gidday to all.I went out to the bay today for my first kingfish session around 2 30pm out the front or eastern side of Molineaux point.Plenty of activity on the sounder in the form of baitfish starting from just 5ft under the boat.Turned out to be yakkas.Concentrated around the marked 140 on the rockwall,around 40ft out,and dropped anchor.I had previously bought some green eyed squid from the tackle shop.Gees im already gettin lazy with the squid.Damn expensive though.Wasnt expecting too much.Being late in the day and frozen squid. Put a head on the baitrunner and a strip on the overhead in about 35ft of water,tide was half run out.Dropped em straight out the back,put em in the holders,and sat back.About 20 minutes later the baitrunner with the head on starts to buckle.I wish somebody told me that kingfish and a bad back dont go together.Total mayhem,grabbed the rod started fighting on what i thought was a tight drag.PING,cut right above the hook.Rebaited with another head,around half an hour later the head goes off again.Grab the rod but this time i knuckled down on the drag beforehand.Fought like mad.Was thinking,when is this gonna bloody stop.But i was in fishing heaven at the time. Heres some pics.Went 68cm and fat.Stomach was empty.That was FUN.

Gidday Yabbiehunter,yeah that would be a good idea the live poddy or as they say for jewies,the bigger the bait the bigger the jewie.Maybe a larger mullet say 8-10 inch variety would get a ripper.Hey,top and bottom of the tide leading up to a full moon around structure like Captain cook bridge.And while your waiting for the big run,you can throw Storm plastics around the pylons.I reckon thatll get em goin.Gees,with any luck within 10 years we will be catching jewies everytime we go out,lol.I wish.

Yeah,Yabbiehunter,just goig back to your post regarding the jew caught on tubeworms and not squid.It maybe that there are more tubeworms than squid in the river,and maybe easier to find for them.Does anybody ever catch squid from up the river? Just a thought.

Gidday Yabbiehunter,and thanks for your welcome.I hope that i can maybe learn something and maybe provide some useful reports and info to the forums.You blokes are to blame for me buying bloody downriggers and digital sounders.And thats not to mention all those bloody squid jigs too,lol. You blokes are gonna send me broke.Or the missus is gonna leave.Or both. Gidday Johnno.Thanks mate.Gees you blokes are friendly.